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They even managed to slip in a price increase. I'm impressed.

 -DE- wrote:
They even managed to slip in a price increase. I'm impressed.

On what? The Wardancers or something else?

Is that Treeman priced reasonably? Or are my expectations of GW so skewed now that I can't tell...

EDIT: Hey, also the LE WE book is $90 instead of the typical $100. I guess GW is even feeling a little tepid about this army update.

 Accolade wrote:
Is that Treeman priced reasonably? Or are my expectations of GW so skewed now that I can't tell...

Define "reasonably". I'm willing to buy two or three, YMMV.

As an aside, I'm assuming that three hag rumour is bunk? Or are we going to see two big kits here?

I guess they decided the ent-like aesthetic was too cool for the WE book. :(

I honestly like the models less having seen the high res website pics.

Or maybe they already have an Ent model and decided that making another one with a different box was pointless?

I like the new one. I hope it has stats to match.

I've been watching the 360 of the new Treeman (the normal version) and now I'm in love.

They demonstratively added a ™ to the name Wood Elves™ to show that it ceased to be a generic expression from now on.



Went a long way from when they sold D&D books including Wood Elves (and everyone making wood elf miniatures for D&D) to now claiming it is their trademark. So everyone who was ever copied by GW beware!

Well they own Tolkien so I'm guessing they believe they have domain over those tropes now

(Joking)

 Kroothawk wrote:
They demonstratively added a ™ to the name Wood Elves™ to show that it ceased to be a generic expression from now on.

I wonder what WotC makes of that. I guess lessons were not learned?

ELVIUS SILVARUM

Can you even copyright a generic term? Makes me wonder :/

It's not copyright but an unregistered trademark.
Anyway, I hear champagne corks popping in US IP law firms

Trademarking terms in context is nothing new. No need to assign evil intent to it.

Meh, I don't think this would hold up in any case - Wood Elves is too broad of a term. Then again, GW can easily pull of their usual thing as in threatening others with their army of lawyers.

What does this "tm" actually do? Does it disallow others from releasing units such as "Wood Elf Treant"?

Keep in mind that they are not trademarking the words. They are trademarking the words, font, image, etc and how they identify the Wood Elves line of miniatures they sell (themselves a subset of Warhammer Fantasy).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trademark

Are they selling metal models again, or is this a typo?

http://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/The-Wardancer-Troupe

This collection contains 11 miniatures, including: 1 Citadel Finecast Shadowdancer, 1 Wardancer Troupe Command boxed set of 5 metal miniatures and 1 boxed set of 5 metal Wardancers.

I think the idea is the TM bookmarks an argument against third parties trying to hock their own products as GW's, for example, as against re-casters.

Are they trademarking "Warhammer: Wood Elves" as opposed to just "Wood Elves"?

EDIT: Nevermind, I see "Warhammer" has the (R) next to it

Having seen those 360s of the treemen, I'm impressed. Also the colors are far more muted and natural looking now, which suits them far better.

 Kroothawk wrote:
They demonstratively added a ™ to the name Wood Elves™ to show that it ceased to be a generic expression from now on.

What that tells me is that 'Warhammer: Battle Magic' is TM'd and 'Warhammer: Battle Magic: Wood Elves' is TM'd. So a set of cards suitable for use in a game of warhammer, in the magic phase, by someone fielding a wood elf army, called 'Warhammer Battle Magic Wood Elves' is trademarked by GW, not that GW have claimed the term Wood Elves...

I think you'd find that Wood Elves in the context of Warhammer would be TM'd as well.

 RiTides wrote:
Are they selling metal models again, or is this a typo?

They never really stopped "selling metal models". They had plenty of stuff still in metal that was not in Finecast.

 MeanGreenStompa wrote:
Having seen those 360s of the treemen, I'm impressed.

Same here. Bravo moment for GW.

 RiTides wrote:
Are they selling metal models again, or is this a typo?

http://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/The-Wardancer-Troupe

This collection contains 11 miniatures, including: 1 Citadel Finecast Shadowdancer, 1 Wardancer Troupe Command boxed set of 5 metal miniatures and 1 boxed set of 5 metal Wardancers.

Likely old stock. Not having done anything with Wood Elves in ages likely means they haven't shifted many.

Personally I'm disappointed and was hoping for a multipart plastic set, but perhaps I'll just convert witch elves instead.


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 pretre wrote:
I think you'd find that Wood Elves in the context of Warhammer would be TM'd as well.

Yes, but in relation to the cards, that's what's identifying legally on the front of the box.

Can anyone tell me about the deer-riding elves in the Bretonnian ambush art?

 Manchu wrote:

 MeanGreenStompa wrote:
Having seen those 360s of the treemen, I'm impressed.

Same here. Bravo moment for GW.

I mean I'm not a huge fan of the big claw, or the loincloth or the long beard, but I figure you get a box of the citadel trees, with all those extra branches, and you can make these more treelike if you wanted to tone the humanoid element back a bit.

Plastic will allow all sorts of kitbash fun with them.

Treemen are pretty cool, but why do they have Wolverine claws?

 Manchu wrote:
Can anyone tell me about the deer-riding elves in the Bretonnian ambush art?

I suspect they must be coming in Wave 2 - that would also explain why they've not released a Wood Elf Army deal like they've done for recent armies as it likely contains models not yet released for the army. Of course anyone who gets hold of a copy of the codex will know what's missing and there are likely pictures of the models in full in that.

 MeanGreenStompa wrote:
Personally I'm disappointed and was hoping for a multipart plastic set, but perhaps I'll just convert witch elves instead.

I was hoping for a multi-part plastic unit as well (assuming that's what you meant, as the Treeman kit is multi-part plastic), in the same fashion as Witch Elves/Sisters of Slaughter or the triple-option core unit for Dark Elves.

I'm on the fence about the Treeman, but I might pick one up at some point. I don't play Warhammer, but I love Wood Elves.

 Manchu wrote:
Can anyone tell me about the deer-riding elves in the Bretonnian ambush art?

In my threads, the info is often in the first post (see blurry background of pic):

Kroothawk wrote:Releases of second Week:
Wild Rider dual kit
Eternal Guard dual kit

Also I hate it how these new miniatures don't even pretend to be Wood Elves.
If the painter hadn't used greenish capes, you would take them for new High Elf miniatures: