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I know I've harped on the WE release, but in all honesty now I have to say this is alongside Dwarfs as one of the least disappointing WHFB army releases in a long time. Treemen are not on extremely massive bases (only MC Cav bases at 50x75) and the $ cost in general is ~10% less and in some cases, much, much more ($47 for units of 10 vs. $70 for dwarfs/DE which is around 30%). The real shame is that they're still pushing $100 creatures and $25 characters and horrendously priced limited edition army books.

 A Town Called Malus wrote:

 Kroothawk wrote:

 malfred wrote:
Is the entire book limited release or is this a limited release version of it?

Erm ... there is a standard and a limited edition of the armybook, the latter is sold out outside North America:


Seems the Codex MT desaster got a few people confused, thinking that Codices and armybooks in general might be a limited release. Well done GW!

What is going on with that Elf's arms? The one in the foreground has her right arm fully extended, drawing the string back towards herself, meanwhile her left arm is bending at the elbow. She's holding the bow directly in front of her, not to the left side.

The only way that could happen is if her left arm is quite considerably longer than her right...

I just tried that pose myself- the picture is a bit misleading as to where the drawstring and the bow is.


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 Ehsteve wrote:
I know I've harped on the WE release, but in all honesty now I have to say this is alongside Dwarfs as one of the least disappointing WHFB army releases in a long time. Treemen are not on extremely massive bases (only MC Cav bases at 50x75) and the $ cost in general is ~10% less and in some cases, much, much more ($47 for units of 10 vs. $70 for dwarfs/DE which is around 30%). The real shame is that they're still pushing $100 creatures and $25 characters and horrendously priced limited edition army books.

I thought aside from the ridiculous core unit names- courtesy of Mat Ward- the Dark Elves were in fact a good release also.

Aye you can hold your arms in the same or similar pose as the elf because one arm is crossing her body, this its losing length; whilst the other is held down straight - thus it can reach lower.

 Krellnus wrote:
+1 to wound order, flaming
+1 to wound destruction, flaming

I have not played WFB for a long time, is there now some clear, official separation between forces of order and forces of destruction ? Where do the “neutral” armies like Orcs, Gobelins, Ogre, Tomb king go ? All destruction ? Also, where do Wood Elves themselves go ?

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

 Krellnus wrote:
+1 to wound order, flaming
+1 to wound destruction, flaming

I have not played WFB for a long time, is there now some clear, official separation between forces of order and forces of destruction ? Where do the “neutral” armies like Orcs, Gobelins, Ogre, Tomb king go ? All destruction ? Also, where do Wood Elves themselves go ?

Ogres and Tomb Kings were the only neutral armies. Orcs and Goblins are destruction (strangely )

Wood Elves are an army of order.

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

 Krellnus wrote:
+1 to wound order, flaming
+1 to wound destruction, flaming

I have not played WFB for a long time, is there now some clear, official separation between forces of order and forces of destruction ? Where do the “neutral” armies like Orcs, Gobelins, Ogre, Tomb king go ? All destruction ? Also, where do Wood Elves themselves go ?

Yes in the core rulebook there is a breakdown of who is order and who is destruction. Orcs and goblins are destruction, Tomb Kings and Ogres are the only Neutral armies. Wood Elves are Order.

 angelofvengeance wrote:

 Ehsteve wrote:
I know I've harped on the WE release, but in all honesty now I have to say this is alongside Dwarfs as one of the least disappointing WHFB army releases in a long time. Treemen are not on extremely massive bases (only MC Cav bases at 50x75) and the $ cost in general is ~10% less and in some cases, much, much more ($47 for units of 10 vs. $70 for dwarfs/DE which is around 30%). The real shame is that they're still pushing $100 creatures and $25 characters and horrendously priced limited edition army books.

I thought aside from the ridiculous core unit names- courtesy of Mat Ward- the Dark Elves were in fact a good release also.

DE was more or less a completely static release. They maintain absolute auto-includes and the foundations of the army are pretty much exactly the same, just with hydras swapped for warlocks now. I didn't really consider the new DE book as anything actually...new in that it added very little if anything at all (except for butchering the names and fluff). Dwarfs and WE on the other hand got a massive revamp which proved much less of a disappointment than expected.

I wouldn't be surprised if they moved Wood Elves to Neutral in the next book, following this thinking:

1) It makes the Elven armies separate out to fill all three slots. This suits the way that they are treating the Woodies in this release, as between the other two.
2) They seem to be going for the Woodies as totally selfish and focused on defending their own turf; that is much the same as the Tomb Kings, also in Neutral.

So are we expecting any more models to be released for wood elves or will that be all for now?

 Charles Rampant wrote:
I wouldn't be surprised if they moved Wood Elves to Neutral in the next book, following this thinking:

1) It makes the Elven armies separate out to fill all three slots. This suits the way that they are treating the Woodies in this release, as between the other two.r
2) They seem to be going for the Woodies as totally selfish and focused on defending their own turf; that is much the same as the Tomb Kings, also in Neutral.

By that going, I'd change the froggies to neutral too though. Despite them certainly being good in terms of fighting Chaos, they also do not give a flying fly about anything but themselves and prefer chilling in their natural grown hot tubs

 Sigvatr wrote:

 Charles Rampant wrote:
I wouldn't be surprised if they moved Wood Elves to Neutral in the next book, following this thinking:

1) It makes the Elven armies separate out to fill all three slots. This suits the way that they are treating the Woodies in this release, as between the other two.r
2) They seem to be going for the Woodies as totally selfish and focused on defending their own turf; that is much the same as the Tomb Kings, also in Neutral.

By that going, I'd change the froggies to neutral too though. Despite them certainly being good in terms of fighting Chaos, they also do not give a flying fly about anything but themselves and prefer chilling in their natural grown hot tubs

Whoah! Hold on there. The whole raison detre of the "froggies" (or Hypno Toads as I like to call them) is to restore order to the Old World, albeit by bashing a few heads together. If that doesn't constitute an army of order, I'm not sure what does

 Sigvatr wrote:

 Charles Rampant wrote:
I wouldn't be surprised if they moved Wood Elves to Neutral in the next book, following this thinking:

1) It makes the Elven armies separate out to fill all three slots. This suits the way that they are treating the Woodies in this release, as between the other two.r
2) They seem to be going for the Woodies as totally selfish and focused on defending their own turf; that is much the same as the Tomb Kings, also in Neutral.

By that going, I'd change the froggies to neutral too though. Despite them certainly being good in terms of fighting Chaos, they also do not give a flying fly about anything but themselves and prefer chilling in their natural grown hot tubs

Nah, Lizardmen are pure order, through and through. The reason why they were created by the Old Ones was to carry out their will and ensure that balance is maintained in the world.
They despise Chaos, considering them to be a great threat to their goals.
The problem though, is that there may be some...translation errors. As it turns out, translating millennium old tablets written in an alien language isn't so easy.