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General Tactics would be to hide the Vet squads in good cover or behind aegis if cover not available, use pyskers to dish out Prescience to LR and basilisk when needed. Pretty stationary army without many scoring units, that and not having any big leader for the blob squad are me two biggest concerns. Any cc would be great!

HQ:
CCS, 60
2x Primaris Pysker-100


Troops:
PCS, 4x Flammer-50
3x Infantry, 3x Autocannon-180
10x Vets, lascannon, 2x plasmagun, Sentries- 120
10x Vets, lascannon, 2x plasmagun, Sentries- 120

Fast Attack
Vendetta-170

Heavy Support:
LR Executioner, plasma spons- 185
2x LR Exterminator, 2xlascannon- 280
1x Basilisk- 125

Aegis, Quad gun- 100
Total: 1490

Well I don't see it as competitive at all. CCS just for orders is a little wasteful. Platoons are pointless unless you're fielding over 60 guys, stick with Vets. Sentries is a little meh.

Vendetta needs a buddy. I wouldn't bother with Russes in Heavy Support until you've filled out HQ. Pask is a no brainer on the Executioners.

Balisks are poor. Wyverns and Deathstrikes are the best artillery.

Im.not sure i trust all your judgements. Im not a IG expert but i think your off a bit.

TableTopJosh wrote:
General Tactics would be to hide the Vet squads in good cover or behind aegis if cover not available, use pyskers to dish out Prescience to LR and basilisk when needed. Pretty stationary army without many scoring units, that and not having any big leader for the blob squad are me two biggest concerns. Any cc would be great!

HQ:
CCS, 60

Maybe find points to give these guys a Lascannon? I know you want them hanging back, but on the other hand if they can do some damage, great. Remember that they can give themselves Tank/Monster hunter with Ld9, so that makes giving them an LC a great idea.

2x Primaris Pysker-100

Solid choices.

Troops:
PCS, 4x Flammer-50
3x Infantry, 3x Autocannon-180

I like the PCS loadout, flamers are always good. However, the blob really needs some kind of Ld buff, either a Commissar or a Priest (personally I'd pick the Priest as there's no chance of him killing an Autocannon). He also makes them more dangerous in CC should the need ever arise.

10x Vets, lascannon, 2x plasmagun, Sentries- 120
10x Vets, lascannon, 2x plasmagun, Sentries- 120

Seems good, a 3+ cover save is going to help them stick around. LC/PG should hurt when given Monster/Tank Hunter or Ignores Cover (and possibly Prescience)

Fast Attack
Vendetta-170

Fine.

Heavy Support:
LR Executioner, plasma spons- 185

Perhaps a bit dangerous with 5 Gets Hot rolls a turn. Personally, I'd swap it for a LC/PC Vanquisher. Similar damage against MCs, better Vs tanks, and good against MEQ/TEQ as well. Your call, though. Maybe try and get in a Techpriest to repair it if you start taking HP.

2x LR Exterminator, 2xlascannon- 280

I like these, cheap and killy. They also don't need prescience as the main guns are already TL.

1x Basilisk- 125

Aegis, Quad gun- 100
Total: 1490

No problems here.

In general terms, I agree with your own two concerns, mobility and the blob. Try and get a priest for the blob (25 points shouldn't be that hard to find) and for mobility, you could rekit 1 Vet squad for a drop from the Vendetta late-game. It's not a lot, but it's something.

In my opinion the best thing CCS offers is their orders, keep them cheap and safe, the regimental order guys arr good too.

Platoons are not useless in 30-40 guys. Behind an aegis they are large enough to make your opponent either dedicate shootijg to them or ignore them. It also makes certain aspects of your opponents list weaker, say for example they bring a lot of anti tank and little anti infantry. Blobs diversfy your list. I mentioned they are susceptible due lack of high leadership, stubborn or fearless.

Pask is good, but very expensive. Also at 1500 id rather save my poinsts and have more threats.

At 1500 and with an aegis i can see the vendetta having very good games and mediocre. Definitely some games it may be a liablility since i only jave one, but other games its strong enough to rule the skies.
I also think the Basilisk is a cheap under appreciated tank. If i had more money i might run a squad of 2 wyrns, they also seem good.


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Thanks for feedback Paradigm.
Id like to put a priest in their, but fearless means no going to ground :(.

I havent played with the plasma tank yet, but one of the psykers was always going give him prescience to help with all the plasma.

Also i thought vendettas can only carry 6 guys now? Hence the PCS in there
Th an ks again for input.

I'll explain further. In the previous codex Vets were the better choice (see practically every tournament army ever). They are now 10points cheaper and that means there is only 10 points difference between a Vet squad and a normal squad and you get a better bs and better weapon options. It really is a no brainer choice unless you're looking to field more than the 60 Vets that a FoC tops out at.

Orders are good but only effect infantry not tanks so 60 points for them in this army isn't going to achieve much. Plus they are bs4 so again you are wasting that by not taking the good weapons. 4 Bs4 ignoring cover plasmaguns can put some serious hurt down.

Anything that really helps your army should be taken in pairs. It is called duel threat and redundancy. You will find 2 Vendettas is far more effective than twice one Vendetta.

Basilisks are very mediocre. They are OK against vehicles but that Ap3 means you're relying on a 6 or shooting the same tank for 3 full turns with it. Against TEQs it doesn't do much and even against MEQ 2 Wyverns will do more damage as they are twin linked always. That large blast will be lucky to hit 5 thats about 4 wounds less than 3 dead after even basic 5+ cover. But lets say they are out in the open so just over 4 dead. 2 Wyverns should be able to get 3 per template on the same spread. Thats 24 hits 18 wounds and 6 dead marines.

Whilst the Deathstrike is S10 Ap1 and ignores cover with a 10" blast. Now that it fires on a 3+ on turn 2 its chance of winning you the game in one shot is actually pretty high.

As for Russes. Pask has PE giving the Executioners rerolls on their gets hot again reducing the risk and need for a Psyker (debatably also giving you rerolls on the blasts). Whilst you still get 2 targets and a Warlord that is AV14. It also keeps HS slots free from Wyverns and Deathstrikes which are both very strong in this codex.

TableTopJosh wrote:

Thanks for feedback Paradigm.
Id like to put a priest in their, but fearless means no going to ground :(.

I havent played with the plasma tank yet, but one of the psykers was always going give him prescience to help with all the plasma.

Also i thought vendettas can only carry 6 guys now? Hence the PCS in there
Th an ks again for input.

You're quite right about the Vendetta, I'd forgotten that. In that case, the PCS is your best bet for mobile scoring, the CCS can cover orders.

If you still want to GtG, put a Commissar in, as you still get reliable leadership. Nothing is worse than a whole blob running.

I'm not sure if Prescience helps with the Gets Hot, and don't have the rulebook on me to check, but if it does, then you're good to go.

Yes prescience gives rerolls on gets hot.