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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/16 19:56:32
Subject: Oklahoma bans Minimum Wage Increases
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Sometimes I really hate my state
http://money.cnn.com/2014/04/15/news/economy/oklahoma-minimum-wage-ban/index.html?hpt=hp_t4
(Been covered locally for a couple of weeks now, figured since it hit "national" media I would share)
NEW YORK (CNNMoney)
Oklahoma cities and towns are banned from raising the local minimum wage under a new state law.
Gov. Mary Fallin signed the measure Monday. The new law also bars localities from requiring that employees receive a certain number of sick or vacation days, either paid or unpaid.
With legislation to increase the federal minimum wage stalled in Congress, proponents of a raise have turned their attention to states and cities. Several have recently approved increases to $10.10 an hour. That is the level supported by congressional Democrats and President Obama, who has urged local governments to act.
The Oklahoma law blocks that sort of move.
Critics of the bill say it was a direct response to a petition in Oklahoma City seeking to put a wage increase on the November ballot.
David Slane, a local criminal attorney who drafted the proposal, said the signature-gathering began a month ago and was already more than halfway to the approximately 10,000 signatures required for a spot on the ballot.
Organizers are deciding how to move forward. Slane said. They're weighing a challenge to the law's constitutionality or a statewide petition, which would require significantly more signatures.
Fallin, a Republican, said the law "protects our economy from bad public policy that would destroy Oklahoma jobs."
"Mandating a minimum wage increase at the local level would drive businesses to other communities and states, and would raise prices for consumers," she said in a statement. She has also opposed a federal increase to the minimum wage.
Of course the Republicans in this state who are always championing that "local government is best government" will most likely not see the problem with having a state government pass laws that prevents local government from making decisions.
Party of "less government" my ass...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/16 20:00:53
Subject: Re:Oklahoma bans Minimum Wage Increases
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Oklahoma cities and towns are banned from raising the local minimum wage under a new state law
Needs to be a State thing. This prevent a rich/poor areas of a State.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/16 20:04:04
Subject: Oklahoma bans Minimum Wage Increases
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Pragmatic Collabirator
Dayton Ohio
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Plutacracy at its Finest. We have the best government money can buy.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/16 20:19:21
Subject: Re:Oklahoma bans Minimum Wage Increases
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Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord
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Pretty disgraceful.
Take up your arms and get these bastards shot!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/16 20:23:20
Subject: Re:Oklahoma bans Minimum Wage Increases
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Jihadin wrote:Oklahoma cities and towns are banned from raising the local minimum wage under a new state law
Needs to be a State thing. This prevent a rich/poor areas of a State.
By that logic cities/counties shouldn't be able to set their own tax rates either, because you will have rich/poor areas of a state.
And a statewide minimum wage doesn't prevent that anyway.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/16 20:24:21
Subject: Oklahoma bans Minimum Wage Increases
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Blood Angel Captain Wracked with Visions
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Don't all your threads about OK start this way?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/16 20:25:16
Subject: Oklahoma bans Minimum Wage Increases
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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That's what happens when my state legislature is almost entirely made up of Republicans
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/16 20:25:36
Subject: Oklahoma bans Minimum Wage Increases
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5th God of Chaos! (Ho-hum)
Curb stomping in the Eye of Terror!
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Pretty much... lol...
I'm sure some court will strike it down...
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Live Ork, Be Ork. or D'Ork!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/16 20:26:26
Subject: Oklahoma bans Minimum Wage Increases
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Blood Angel Captain Wracked with Visions
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d-usa wrote:That's what happens when my state legislature is almost entirely made up of Republicans
Maybe we should send you some Democrats from Detroit to balance things out
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/16 20:37:04
Subject: Oklahoma bans Minimum Wage Increases
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Up until the last decade we were a Conservative state, that elected Republican Presidents and ran a Democrat controlled state legislature. They were able to promote social welfare and sensible rules (Oklahoma Liberals are still conservative) based on what was best for the people in the state. Then Republicans took over, and now we are just terrible. They can't even follow the simplest constitutional rule of the state: each bill can only be about one subject. They keep on passing bills that cover a bunch of different things, only to watch them get struck down. Now they want to change the constitution because they are to dumb to realize that they have to write two bills if they want to raise fees for one thing while also making something else illegal.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/16 20:43:20
Subject: Oklahoma bans Minimum Wage Increases
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Blood Angel Captain Wracked with Visions
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d-usa wrote:They can't even the simplest constitutional rule of the state:
Did you just turn into a white girl?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/16 20:47:35
Subject: Oklahoma bans Minimum Wage Increases
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Fixture of Dakka
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The law was created in response to an initiative in Oklahoma City to raise the minimum wage in the city above the state minimum.
The city initiative was only needed because the legislature is too busy giving the five rich people in the state tax breaks to address the plight of the poor.
I hate my state.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/16 20:50:57
Subject: Oklahoma bans Minimum Wage Increases
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5th God of Chaos! (Ho-hum)
Curb stomping in the Eye of Terror!
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agnosto wrote:The law was created in response to an initiative in Oklahoma City to raise the minimum wage in the city above the state minimum.
The city initiative was only needed because the legislature is too busy giving the five rich people in the state tax breaks to address the plight of the poor.
I hate my state.
Serious question here...
Is it that much more expensive to live in OKC than out in the boonies? (seems to me living in the boonies would be spendy)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/16 20:52:14
Subject: Oklahoma bans Minimum Wage Increases
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Hangin' with Gork & Mork
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Like, totes.
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Amidst the mists and coldest frosts he thrusts his fists against the posts and still insists he sees the ghosts.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/16 20:52:25
Subject: Oklahoma bans Minimum Wage Increases
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Don't be sexist you conservative pig
(fixed...)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/16 20:54:25
Subject: Oklahoma bans Minimum Wage Increases
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Blood Angel Captain Wracked with Visions
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d-usa wrote:
Don't be sexist you conservative pig
(fixed...)
That is independent pig, thank you very much
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/16 21:02:18
Subject: Oklahoma bans Minimum Wage Increases
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Fixture of Dakka
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whembly wrote: agnosto wrote:The law was created in response to an initiative in Oklahoma City to raise the minimum wage in the city above the state minimum.
The city initiative was only needed because the legislature is too busy giving the five rich people in the state tax breaks to address the plight of the poor.
I hate my state.
Serious question here...
Is it that much more expensive to live in OKC than out in the boonies? (seems to me living in the boonies would be spendy)
Not really. The entire state's economy is fairly depressed; in fact a fair number of people who live in the boonies either are earning mineral rights money from oil/natural gas or work in the petroleum industry and earn respectable wages..
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/16 21:03:30
Subject: Oklahoma bans Minimum Wage Increases
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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d-usa wrote:Sometimes I really hate my state
http://money.cnn.com/2014/04/15/news/economy/oklahoma-minimum-wage-ban/index.html?hpt=hp_t4
(Been covered locally for a couple of weeks now, figured since it hit "national" media I would share)
NEW YORK (CNNMoney)
Oklahoma cities and towns are banned from raising the local minimum wage under a new state law.
Gov. Mary Fallin signed the measure Monday. The new law also bars localities from requiring that employees receive a certain number of sick or vacation days, either paid or unpaid.
With legislation to increase the federal minimum wage stalled in Congress, proponents of a raise have turned their attention to states and cities. Several have recently approved increases to $10.10 an hour. That is the level supported by congressional Democrats and President Obama, who has urged local governments to act.
The Oklahoma law blocks that sort of move.
Critics of the bill say it was a direct response to a petition in Oklahoma City seeking to put a wage increase on the November ballot.
David Slane, a local criminal attorney who drafted the proposal, said the signature-gathering began a month ago and was already more than halfway to the approximately 10,000 signatures required for a spot on the ballot.
Organizers are deciding how to move forward. Slane said. They're weighing a challenge to the law's constitutionality or a statewide petition, which would require significantly more signatures.
Fallin, a Republican, said the law "protects our economy from bad public policy that would destroy Oklahoma jobs."
"Mandating a minimum wage increase at the local level would drive businesses to other communities and states, and would raise prices for consumers," she said in a statement. She has also opposed a federal increase to the minimum wage.
Of course the Republicans in this state who are always championing that "local government is best government" will most likely not see the problem with having a state government pass laws that prevents local government from making decisions.
Party of "less government" my ass...
Aww, poor you. Guess you'll have to flip more burgers, huh?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/16 21:08:24
Subject: Re:Oklahoma bans Minimum Wage Increases
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Stop. D-USA works in a VA Hospital. He is a Nursing Asst or Medical Asst. He does not flip burgers. Nice try
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Harlequin 2500
RIP Muhammad Ali.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/16 21:09:04
Subject: Oklahoma bans Minimum Wage Increases
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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I can see arguments both ways. Not sure why the state government should care though. A libertarian will argue it should be left to the lowest competent local government if at all.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/16 21:13:40
Subject: Oklahoma bans Minimum Wage Increases
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Spacemanvic wrote: d-usa wrote:Sometimes I really hate my state
http://money.cnn.com/2014/04/15/news/economy/oklahoma-minimum-wage-ban/index.html?hpt=hp_t4
(Been covered locally for a couple of weeks now, figured since it hit "national" media I would share)
NEW YORK (CNNMoney)
Oklahoma cities and towns are banned from raising the local minimum wage under a new state law.
Gov. Mary Fallin signed the measure Monday. The new law also bars localities from requiring that employees receive a certain number of sick or vacation days, either paid or unpaid.
With legislation to increase the federal minimum wage stalled in Congress, proponents of a raise have turned their attention to states and cities. Several have recently approved increases to $10.10 an hour. That is the level supported by congressional Democrats and President Obama, who has urged local governments to act.
The Oklahoma law blocks that sort of move.
Critics of the bill say it was a direct response to a petition in Oklahoma City seeking to put a wage increase on the November ballot.
David Slane, a local criminal attorney who drafted the proposal, said the signature-gathering began a month ago and was already more than halfway to the approximately 10,000 signatures required for a spot on the ballot.
Organizers are deciding how to move forward. Slane said. They're weighing a challenge to the law's constitutionality or a statewide petition, which would require significantly more signatures.
Fallin, a Republican, said the law "protects our economy from bad public policy that would destroy Oklahoma jobs."
"Mandating a minimum wage increase at the local level would drive businesses to other communities and states, and would raise prices for consumers," she said in a statement. She has also opposed a federal increase to the minimum wage.
Of course the Republicans in this state who are always championing that "local government is best government" will most likely not see the problem with having a state government pass laws that prevents local government from making decisions.
Party of "less government" my ass...
Aww, poor you. Guess you'll have to flip more burgers, huh?
Registered Nurse, but that statement says a lot about you. Can't argue, so let's attack.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/16 21:30:48
Subject: Oklahoma bans Minimum Wage Increases
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Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord
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Spacemanvic wrote: d-usa wrote:Sometimes I really hate my state
http://money.cnn.com/2014/04/15/news/economy/oklahoma-minimum-wage-ban/index.html?hpt=hp_t4
(Been covered locally for a couple of weeks now, figured since it hit "national" media I would share)
NEW YORK (CNNMoney)
Oklahoma cities and towns are banned from raising the local minimum wage under a new state law.
Gov. Mary Fallin signed the measure Monday. The new law also bars localities from requiring that employees receive a certain number of sick or vacation days, either paid or unpaid.
With legislation to increase the federal minimum wage stalled in Congress, proponents of a raise have turned their attention to states and cities. Several have recently approved increases to $10.10 an hour. That is the level supported by congressional Democrats and President Obama, who has urged local governments to act.
The Oklahoma law blocks that sort of move.
Critics of the bill say it was a direct response to a petition in Oklahoma City seeking to put a wage increase on the November ballot.
David Slane, a local criminal attorney who drafted the proposal, said the signature-gathering began a month ago and was already more than halfway to the approximately 10,000 signatures required for a spot on the ballot.
Organizers are deciding how to move forward. Slane said. They're weighing a challenge to the law's constitutionality or a statewide petition, which would require significantly more signatures.
Fallin, a Republican, said the law "protects our economy from bad public policy that would destroy Oklahoma jobs."
"Mandating a minimum wage increase at the local level would drive businesses to other communities and states, and would raise prices for consumers," she said in a statement. She has also opposed a federal increase to the minimum wage.
Of course the Republicans in this state who are always championing that "local government is best government" will most likely not see the problem with having a state government pass laws that prevents local government from making decisions.
Party of "less government" my ass...
Aww, poor you. Guess you'll have to flip more burgers, huh?
Ladies and Gentlemen. I present to you... A witch.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/16 21:35:11
Subject: Oklahoma bans Minimum Wage Increases
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5th God of Chaos! (Ho-hum)
Curb stomping in the Eye of Terror!
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agnosto wrote: whembly wrote: agnosto wrote:The law was created in response to an initiative in Oklahoma City to raise the minimum wage in the city above the state minimum. The city initiative was only needed because the legislature is too busy giving the five rich people in the state tax breaks to address the plight of the poor. I hate my state.
Serious question here... Is it that much more expensive to live in OKC than out in the boonies? (seems to me living in the boonies would be spendy) Not really. The entire state's economy is fairly depressed; in fact a fair number of people who live in the boonies either are earning mineral rights money from oil/natural gas or work in the petroleum industry and earn respectable wages.. Okay. Cool. This bill doesn't pass the smell test really... are your elected officials that daft? Question: Are the local Unions pushing for minimum wage increase recently? Generally speaking, Union contracts has stipulations for automatic wage increases if the local minimum wages is upped. EDITed for clarification.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/16 22:02:13
Subject: Oklahoma bans Minimum Wage Increases
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Joined the Military for Authentic Experience
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Well, I hope those legislators get voted out next election.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/16 22:44:42
Subject: Oklahoma bans Minimum Wage Increases
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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d-usa wrote: Spacemanvic wrote: d-usa wrote:Sometimes I really hate my state
http://money.cnn.com/2014/04/15/news/economy/oklahoma-minimum-wage-ban/index.html?hpt=hp_t4
(Been covered locally for a couple of weeks now, figured since it hit "national" media I would share)
NEW YORK (CNNMoney)
Oklahoma cities and towns are banned from raising the local minimum wage under a new state law.
Gov. Mary Fallin signed the measure Monday. The new law also bars localities from requiring that employees receive a certain number of sick or vacation days, either paid or unpaid.
With legislation to increase the federal minimum wage stalled in Congress, proponents of a raise have turned their attention to states and cities. Several have recently approved increases to $10.10 an hour. That is the level supported by congressional Democrats and President Obama, who has urged local governments to act.
The Oklahoma law blocks that sort of move.
Critics of the bill say it was a direct response to a petition in Oklahoma City seeking to put a wage increase on the November ballot.
David Slane, a local criminal attorney who drafted the proposal, said the signature-gathering began a month ago and was already more than halfway to the approximately 10,000 signatures required for a spot on the ballot.
Organizers are deciding how to move forward. Slane said. They're weighing a challenge to the law's constitutionality or a statewide petition, which would require significantly more signatures.
Fallin, a Republican, said the law "protects our economy from bad public policy that would destroy Oklahoma jobs."
"Mandating a minimum wage increase at the local level would drive businesses to other communities and states, and would raise prices for consumers," she said in a statement. She has also opposed a federal increase to the minimum wage.
Of course the Republicans in this state who are always championing that "local government is best government" will most likely not see the problem with having a state government pass laws that prevents local government from making decisions.
Party of "less government" my ass...
Aww, poor you. Guess you'll have to flip more burgers, huh?
Registered Nurse, but that statement says a lot about you. Can't argue, so let's attack.
My apologies D.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/16 22:55:30
Subject: Oklahoma bans Minimum Wage Increases
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This Is Where the Fish Lives
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Spacemanvic wrote: d-usa wrote: Spacemanvic wrote: d-usa wrote:Sometimes I really hate my state
http://money.cnn.com/2014/04/15/news/economy/oklahoma-minimum-wage-ban/index.html?hpt=hp_t4
(Been covered locally for a couple of weeks now, figured since it hit "national" media I would share)
NEW YORK (CNNMoney)
Oklahoma cities and towns are banned from raising the local minimum wage under a new state law.
Gov. Mary Fallin signed the measure Monday. The new law also bars localities from requiring that employees receive a certain number of sick or vacation days, either paid or unpaid.
With legislation to increase the federal minimum wage stalled in Congress, proponents of a raise have turned their attention to states and cities. Several have recently approved increases to $10.10 an hour. That is the level supported by congressional Democrats and President Obama, who has urged local governments to act.
The Oklahoma law blocks that sort of move.
Critics of the bill say it was a direct response to a petition in Oklahoma City seeking to put a wage increase on the November ballot.
David Slane, a local criminal attorney who drafted the proposal, said the signature-gathering began a month ago and was already more than halfway to the approximately 10,000 signatures required for a spot on the ballot.
Organizers are deciding how to move forward. Slane said. They're weighing a challenge to the law's constitutionality or a statewide petition, which would require significantly more signatures.
Fallin, a Republican, said the law "protects our economy from bad public policy that would destroy Oklahoma jobs."
"Mandating a minimum wage increase at the local level would drive businesses to other communities and states, and would raise prices for consumers," she said in a statement. She has also opposed a federal increase to the minimum wage.
Of course the Republicans in this state who are always championing that "local government is best government" will most likely not see the problem with having a state government pass laws that prevents local government from making decisions.
Party of "less government" my ass...
Aww, poor you. Guess you'll have to flip more burgers, huh?
Registered Nurse, but that statement says a lot about you. Can't argue, so let's attack.
My apologies D.
You won't have to apologize if you refrain from saying something inappropriate when uninformed... food for thought.
In regards to the OP: it is more proof that Republicans are not the "party of less government" but more of the "party of less government... unless it is something we care about," which is what I have been saying here plenty of times before. Hopefully, it is struck down before it makes it any further.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/16 23:23:09
Subject: Re:Oklahoma bans Minimum Wage Increases
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Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord
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Any apology isn't really relevant when you're showing massive contempt for minimum wage workers. Obviously they aren't people though. Only those that went to University or have money are people...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/16 23:27:19
Subject: Re:Oklahoma bans Minimum Wage Increases
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Medium of Death wrote:Any apology isn't really relevant when you're showing massive contempt for minimum wage workers. Obviously they aren't people though. Only those that went to University or have money are people...
Hell, even some of the university graduates are flipping burgers. If they are lucky.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/17 02:01:58
Subject: Re:Oklahoma bans Minimum Wage Increases
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I work three primary jobs. One full time, another a consultancy, and a third part time at a firearms store. The first two pay very well, the part time gig pays $8.75 (which reflects a 50 cent raise after 6 months). Not alot is expected of me there which is fine, I get a great discount and access to people looking for training, so this job works for all involved.
Minimum wage in the area is $7.25, so I am making over that. But again, it is an entry level post, it was never meant to be a job to provide a "living" wage. Raising minimum wage to what $10/ hr and calling that a living wage is a joke, meant to garner some votes. It will lead to less jobs being offered at that level, and an increase in pricing to offset the increase in labor costs.
So this bill got defeated? Great! Let me set my own per hour rate with a potential employer, and stop screwing the little guy with laws that dont do anything but make the working man suffer.
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Medium of Death wrote:Any apology isn't really relevant when you're showing massive contempt for minimum wage workers. Obviously they aren't people though. Only those that went to University or have money are people...
It was actually directed to d-usa, to whom Ive already publicly apologized to. As to my bonifidas, check my last post, youll see I am in fact part of that minimum wage group for whom laws like this dont actually help.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/17 02:19:23
Subject: Oklahoma bans Minimum Wage Increases
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Fixture of Dakka
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Stop taking away money from the rich you parasites!
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