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Hey mates, have a 3,000 point tournament coming up this weekend at my hobby store and after looking at what I had I thankfully has enough Brets to run instead of Dwarfs ( Btw, selling my Dwarfs if anyone interest ). Hoping to surprise some of my opponents, as I haven't seen anyone else play Bretonnia in my area at all, and hopefully this will give me an advantage in this tournament, especially since there aren't too many power-gamers in my area. So after signing up today, with me included, the armies look like this, and from the looks of things there is a lot of variety which is a good thing:

1x Bretonnia (Me)

1x Dark Elf (Witch Elf Death Star list)

1x Ogre Kingdoms

2x High Elves

2x Empire (One Cav Heavy, One Infantry Heavy)

1x Orcs and Goblins

1x Warriors of Chaos (1x Nurgle)

1x Dwarf

1x Vampire Counts

1x Skaven

A lot of different lists, which is why I am going to and build an all-comers list, but then again since I am playing Bretonnia, they really don't have a lot of variety to do that, but I came up with a list that I feel that can be competitive and have great success. Basically, as long as I don't end up playing the Warriors of Chaos list, the Vampire Counts list, and the Dark Elf List I feel confident I have a good chance of winning lol . Anyways, here is my list so tell me what you guys think of it, and all advice and tips are welcome.

*Lord:
-w/Heartwood Lance, Armor of Agiluf, Virtue of Heroism, Warhorse

*Prophetess:
-w/Lvl. 4, Lore of Heavens, Dispel Scroll, Warhorse

*Paladin BSB:
-w/Sword of Might, Enchanted Shield, Warhorse

*Damsel:
-w/Lvl. 2, Lore of Beasts, Prayer Icon of Quenelles

*(11x)Knights of the Realm: (w/Lord)
-w/Full Command, Banner of Discipline

*(11x)Knights of the Realm: (w/Prophetess)
-w/Full Command

*(14x) Knights Errant: ( w/BSB )
-w/Full Command, Erranty Banner

*(12x)Knights of the Realm:
-w/Full Command

*(12x)Knights of the Realm:
-w/Full Command

*(39x)Men-at-Arms: (w/Damsel, 10x4)
-w/Full Command

*(12x)Bowmen:
-w/Braziers, Defensive Stakes

*(12x)Bowmen:
-w/Braziers, Defensive Stakes

*(3x)Pegasus Knights:
-w/Gallant, Musician

*Trebuchet:

*Trebuchet:

*4x Characters
*60x Knights
*39x Men-at-Arms
*24 Bowmen
*3x Pegasus
*2x Trebuchet's

Total: 2,997 points

Personally I'm not a great fan of the KE but if they work for you then by all means keep them.

Regarding lore choice, heaveans is HUGE for knights. Comet of cassandora is something that most players will always dispell, and if it does go off them a lot damage can be done. Rerolling 1s for armour on knights essentially gives you a 1+ rerollable against s3 attacks, and iceshard is always useful.

Any way you could squeeze in some mounted yeomen? Your only redirecters are the peg knights and that are a bit too expensive

 Son of Landuin wrote:
Personally I'm not a great fan of the KE but if they work for you then by all means keep them.

Regarding lore choice, heaveans is HUGE for knights. Comet of cassandora is something that most players will always dispell, and if it does go off them a lot damage can be done. Rerolling 1s for armour on knights essentially gives you a 1+ rerollable against s3 attacks, and iceshard is always useful.

Any way you could squeeze in some mounted yeomen? Your only redirecters are the peg knights and that are a bit too expensive

I have considered dropping some of the KE for Mounted Yeoman, however, they are just too expensive for what they do at the moment, and plus I odn't have any models to represent them. So far, my Peg Knights and Archers have been effective at taking care of enemy redirectors and acting as directors for my army and I don't expect that to change. As for the KE themselves, I used to not take them, however, Bretonnia lacks a lot of Monstrous Creature killing stuff, which all they have includes the Heroic Killing Blow Lord, S10 Trebuchet (under the hole), and the KE being S6 on the charge. Plus, running so many KE in a lance formation makes them targets for a lot of opponents, as they want to whittle it down, which allows my KOTR to do what they do best unscratched a lot of the time.

I don't care for KE myself but. Actually I would drop them for Questing or Grail Knights. I would try and get the silver mirror for the damsel.

You will also need/want the BSB.

RB wrote:
I don't care for KE myself but. Actually I would drop them for Questing or Grail Knights. I would try and get the silver mirror for the damsel.

You will also need/want the BSB.

I do have a BSB, its a requirement for ever Bret Army mate so I got that covered. And I disagree, as I would replace the KE with more KOTR instead if I decide to do so. Grail Knights are way too expensive for what they do and they die too easily right now to be worth taking, and although I love the fluff of Questing Knights, they never seem to do much as since being armed with GW's, the strike last and rarely where they successful as too many died before doing any good. Just my take and personal experience.

Characters: silver mirror on the level 2, dawnstone on the BSB, gromril great helm on the general. Two dispel scrolls is invaluable, as it means your opponents are basically denied two magic phases. The rerollable armour saves also effectively doubles the defensive capabilities of your units. I also think the sword of swift slaying is better on the general than the heartwood lance. Rerolls to hit against most things means more hits to try for that 6 on, and striking first against other things (like demon princes) is even better.

I'd also strongly suggest against putting your BSB in with the errants. Errants are a seeker missile that you send at the meanest thing in the enemy army. Without the BSB they're disposable afterwards, which makes them really tactically flexible. With the BSB it's the lynchpin of your army, and you can't risk it the same way.


Units: Banner of Discipline in your general's unit is more important than swiftness. LD10 is better protection against spirit leech and running away (imagine rerollable LD7 vs rerollable LD6).


As for Grails, I don't think you're giving them a fair shake. Put the flaming banner on a smaller lance of them (9-11) and you're dishing out a boatload of S6 attacks that can punch past regen. Against stuff like trolls that are the bane of knights that's a god send. It's also fun to use them to tarpit a demon prince / greater demon indefinitely with challenges that he can't decline being on his own. Yeah he'll kill the knight every time, and never take a wound since he's 1+2++, but who cares when you're steadfast and he can only kill 1 of you a turn. Their attacks are ALSO magical, so they can punch through ethereal units to boot.

The main point of his Lvl 2 is to use the prayer icon on the peasants. Swapping that out for the mirror is gonna make the tarpit a lot worse.

Also TBH my main preference if I can get it for the HKB lord is the sword of bloodshed. I don't know why, but whenever I get more than 6 attacks on something, I nearly always get at least 1 six to would. Using the rerolls to hit or wound with other magic items never seem to work...

Are you still gonna go with life or are you swapping to heavens?

I support the use of the prayer icon rather than the silver mirror as the second arcane item
I only take the mirror if I have 3 casters (rare case) as the blessed peasants are very, very good (especially against stuff like MC and such)
The ASF sword is really good on the lord, and it gives enough point to put the Gromril helm as well.
Note that I use either Heavens + Beasts or Beasts + Beasts (If I have 2*lvl2). I don't like Life as you rely on THrone of Vines to do anything really good (and I simply refuse to sue the Dwellers crutch)
The buffs/debuff of Heavens or things like Savage Beast & Wyssan's are invaluable to Brets (I tend to run my Beasts girls in peasants or on their own, not in the lances due to miscasts)

Didn't realize that the prayer icon was an arcane item. Prayer icon on the peasants is better in that case, yes.

Re: grails, I should also point out that the flaming banner gives them rerolls to wound when trying to take a watchtower

Well that point is mute mate at this point. Tournament ended in a blood bath with the results as followed.:

1st Bretonnia: Huzzah!

2nd Warriors of Chaos:

3rd Ogre Kingdoms

4th Dwarf's

5th Orcs and Goblins

6th: High Elves (Everqueen List)

7th Vampire Counts

8th High Elves

9th Empire

10th Empire

11th Skaven

12th Dark Elves

Needless to say a lot of the results where surprising but then again it was a lot of fun. Biggest surprise was how well the Orcs did, as not only did they crush the DE's in the first game (Something about a Doom DIver Killing his BSB outright and a number of Failed Panic checks for a few units to seal the win), but also how bad the DE players luck was, as he was massacred in all 3x of his games, and would have gotten best sportsmanship if he decided not to explode and break his Cauldron of Blood after losing to the Skaven in the last match for which we called, The Battle for Not to be Last . However, many where surprised when my Bretonnian's took the field and dominated, granted due to some good rolling and some luck on my charges, and I was surprised how well the Lore of Heavens did, as I wanted to play a tournament without relying on Life as a crutch. Will post the battler reports as soon as I can mates.

Wow, good job mate! Always nice to see the Brets putting up the numbers. People don't believe me when I tell them Brets can be mean. I guess they just don't have a friend like mine to punish you viciously until they learned

Lore of heavens is awesome....

Glad to see that bretonnia can still win some games, my last few games have made me think otherwise.

What was the other non-everqueen list for the high elves out of intrest?

 Son of Landuin wrote:
Lore of heavens is awesome....

Glad to see that bretonnia can still win some games, my last few games have made me think otherwise.

What was the other non-everqueen list for the high elves out of intrest?

I didn't play it but if I remember correctly, had a lot of Seaguard, Bolt Throwers, and some MSU Swordmaster Units. Basically a shooting list with a Lvl. 4 to blast stuff at a distance.