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**Palindrome**

When I did my T28 grind they could mount an 85mm gun, it wasn't so bad

The front hull plate is the glacis plate (usually split into upper and lower)

**motyak**

Yeah i know those terms, but the kv1's glacis has sort of got the flatbit on top of the upper glacis. I wasn't sure if that still counted as upper glacis or not.

**Palindrome**

The whole front section of the hull is the glacis plate so it its part of the superstructure then I would imagine thats what it would be called. Its not really the armour itself there that's the issue there, its the vision block and MG port.

I got into the Warthunder Ground combat beta and its not really the game that I thought it was. I was under the impression that it would basically be WoT but prettier, its not really.

Its a lot more of an arcade game, even the 'simulation' battles, and the matchmaking is even worse than WoT (just how is a Pz II supposed to kill a KV-1?). The tank models are very nice though and I think that my favourite thing about them is how the driver obviously shifts gears making the tank lurch in a realistic and pleasing manner.

**Catyrpelius**

Palindrome wrote:
The whole front section of the hull is the glacis plate so it its part of the superstructure then I would imagine thats what it would be called. Its not really the armour itself there that's the issue there, its the vision block and MG port.

I got into the Warthunder Ground combat beta and its not really the game that I thought it was. I was under the impression that it would basically be WoT but prettier, its not really.

Its a lot more of an arcade game, even the 'simulation' battles, and the matchmaking is even worse than WoT (just how is a Pz II supposed to kill a KV-1?). The tank models are very nice though and I think that my favourite thing about them is how the driver obviously shifts gears making the tank lurch in a realistic and pleasing manner.

Hmm, I was under the impression that WoT's was actually the arcade style game, Ground Forces being the much more historically acurate game given their tanks lack of health pools.

I played the beta for a bit, it's not my type of game though.

**Boblogik**

Palindrome isn't the first I've heard say that about warthunder ground. Though I've heard lots of good things about the air combat. Unlike world of warplanes, which I've been told to not bother with.

**Palindrome**

Catyrpelius wrote:

Hmm, I was under the impression that WoT's was actually the arcade style game, Ground Forces being the much more historically acurate game given their tanks lack of health pools.

They may lack health pools but they have critical component damage instead, it seems to me that tanks take about as many hits to pop in warthunder as they do in WoT. The gameplay itself isn't very smooth either. On the whole WoT is a superior game which is a bit of a shame really as Warthunder does look a lot nicer (aside from the terrain) and I would like WoT to have some robust competition to force Wargaming to up their game.

World of warplanes and warthunder are very similar games and I didn't like either of them

**Boblogik**

2x xp all day event tomorrow. Or so I think I remember reading...

**LockNExt**

Palindrome wrote:
Boblogik wrote:
Unfortunately now my killstreak is set by the dw2 lol... Just gonna have to change that with the panther when I get it!

I wouldn't be too worried by your stats, matchmaking being the way it is its entirely possible to be a good player and still have poor stats, especially if you are grinding up tanks. If you only played in premium tanks and fired nothing but gold ammo you could have amazing stats yet be a mediocre player at best. I consider myself a good player and I have been playing since the closed beta yet my win rate hovers around 51.8%.

The Panther is a pretty good sniper but its not much good for anything else. Excellent tanks in the real world aren't necessarily as good in WoT

This is an example I just played that gives an indication as to why win rate doesn't mean much; I caused more damage than the rest of the team put together, got 5 kills (including the T29 that got the top gun medal)and held a flank pretty much solo yet we still lost.

Agreed ... WoT is very much pay for power in that respect.

I mean I'd understand that wargames sells tanks, since that is not always buying power, but Premium Ammo .... that is not fair :(

**Palindrome**

LockNExt wrote:

I mean I'd understand that wargames sells tanks, since that is not always buying power, but Premium Ammo .... that is not fair :(

Well you can buy premium ammo with ingame credits and premium ammo doesn't mean that you will penetrate even if you hit. It doesn't really bother me that much and a lot of people who complain about gold ammo are actually getting hit by AP rounds fired by people who know how to aim.

**motyak**

Yeah, I often cop abuse in my hellcat for being a gold-spamming noob, when I haven't even fired a round of the stuff that game. Fools.

**Boblogik**

motyak wrote:
Yeah, I often cop abuse in my hellcat for being a gold-spamming noob, when I haven't even fired a round of the stuff that game. Fools.

Yeah, people don't realize the hellcat is really powerful (A bit too much so imo). People just get upset that they (or their tank) are underperforming, especially if the tank is historically good but not the greatest in-game...

**motyak**

Boblogik wrote:
motyak wrote:
Yeah, I often cop abuse in my hellcat for being a gold-spamming noob, when I haven't even fired a round of the stuff that game. Fools.

Yeah, people don't realize the hellcat is really powerful (A bit too much so imo). People just get upset that they (or their tank) are underperforming, especially if the tank is historically good but not the greatest in-game...

Well I have gotten that abuse it in most of my tanks (hell even my AT2), but the hellcat is the one that repeatedly gets it. And yeah it has a nasty gun and pace, but does suffer for lack of armour etc, I think it's a pretty fairly balanced little machine. Until you get those confrontation teams full of them, then the enemy just gets 1-2-3'd before he can react. But that was more confrontation's fault than the hellcat's

**Boblogik**

Anyone take advantage of the 2x xp yesterday? I got my new turret for my vk3002m and the new suspension for it but came 4k shy of a new engine.

**Ruberu**

Hope you all got to enjoy the x2 xp for every victory yesterday! I sure did, got out of the Leopard, Su-101, Lorraine, and the T69! More than Half way through the Vk 2801 and the Kv-3. Made enough money to buy the Su-122-54 so now I only need to save the money for the T9 Vk and my 7th T10.

If you did not get to engoy the pools of XP remember that this weekend is x3 for you first Victory of the day!

**Boblogik**

Ruberu wrote:
Hope you all got to enjoy the x2 xp for every victory yesterday! I sure did, got out of the Leopard, Su-101, Lorraine, and the T69! More than Half way through the Vk 2801 and the Kv-3. Made enough money to buy the Su-122-54 so now I only need to save the money for the T9 Vk and my 7th T10.

If you did not get to engoy the pools of XP remember that this weekend is x3 for you first Victory of the day!

Wow you were busy! I got lumped with poor teams a bunch, I think I only got the bonus 12 times, really helped me knock out upgrades for my vk 30.02 m and getting closer to getting my vk 30.01 h to elite status.

Oh and not only is it 3x xp for first win but for tiers 2-5 you get an extra 50% credits increase win or lose every game! And a 50% off all tier 2-5 vehicles credit costs and 50% off premium vehicles as well if you're someone who goes for those. Gonna help me get out of my marder ii and into the arty option (already went the hetzer route for my td line).

**Ruberu**

I sure was busy! I'm lucky enough to have a good friend that works the same night shift as I do, and even more lucky that we had the night off. To be fair, some of thoughs tanks I only had maybe 20k xp left. The bad one was the Lorraine, I had about 60k xp to go! I managed to get 4000 xp on the first x3 on Friday morning and that finished it for me.

**Melissia**

Sadly the xp weekend was right before finals, so I was studying. Meh!

That's life.

**Catyrpelius**

Has everyone seen the upcoming T34 event?

100k XP in tier 4 and up vehicles for every nation gets you a free T34. There is also a mission that rewards free garage slots up to 5 times. I also think I remember seeing something about 100 gold garage slots.

**motyak**

What? Link?

**Catyrpelius**

motyak wrote:
What? Link?

Unfortunatly I'm at work and can't give you one. Now that I think about this though, it might be a North American only event.

**motyak**

Eh I play on the NA servers anyway. I asked my mate who normally tells me about all these things and he sent me the link

http://worldoftanks.com/en/news/22/operation-t34/

So I'll probably end up with a free garage slot and (maybe) 2 days premium. Not bad.

**Catyrpelius**

motyak wrote:
Eh I play on the NA servers anyway. I asked my mate who normally tells me about all these things and he sent me the link

http://worldoftanks.com/en/news/22/operation-t34/

So I'll probably end up with a free garage slot and (maybe) 2 days premium. Not bad.

It's a pretty long running event plus I belive it's going to overlap with Memorial Day weekend which is usually a 5x weekend.

**Palindrome**

You have to get 700,000k exp (and probably a bit more depending on how good a player you are) to get the T34.

No thanks.

**motyak**

Oh yeah, I don't expect to get that in the least. I do expect to get a garage slot and maybe the premium once/twice as a very, very outside chance.

**Catyrpelius**

motyak wrote:
Oh yeah, I don't expect to get that in the least. I do expect to get a garage slot and maybe the premium once/twice as a very, very outside chance.

For the the American, British and Russian parts won't be that hard especially if I can count on my daily doubles. The Chinese and Japanese might actually kill me though.,..

**motyak**

I lack a Tier 4 in German, Japanese and Russian, and I just don't think it's worth it to grind out tanks that I don't think I'll really enjoy just to get a tank that I didn't buy when I did buy my Tier 8 premium.

**gossipmeng**

I quit WoT a few months ago. I had a few tier 9 soviets and some tier 8 germans.

I ultimately got tired of the game's pace - in higher tiered matches you absolutely have to play carefully and stay in cover 90% of the time. It just got annoying to sit in a bush for 5 mins waiting for a target and then finally lining up your sights - only to have the shot bounce. Also it really sucks when a random shot blows your ammo rack 1 minute into a match.

I've started playing WoWP and it is much more my style of gameplay. I might go back to WoT after I've had a long enough break.

**Catyrpelius**

motyak wrote:
I lack a Tier 4 in German, Japanese and Russian, and I just don't think it's worth it to grind out tanks that I don't think I'll really enjoy just to get a tank that I didn't buy when I did buy my Tier 8 premium.

I bought my T26E4 fairly early on mostly when I was playing mainly medium tanks, it was my highest tier vehicle at the time... Then I unlocked the T29, T32 and M103 and saw that the T34 is what I was hoping the T32 was. I've never been able to convince myself to buy another Tier 8 premium tank though. Don't get me wrong I've had some amazingly fun games in my Super Pershing, but the gun is definatly lacking.

The German line has some odd spots especially at Tier 4. I definatly recommend trying to skip over the DW2 using free xp, but the VK 30.01H fully upgraded is a lot of fun. My favorite German tank so far is my Luchs, it shares a special place with my TOG2, it's just so much fun to use.

**Melissia**

Yeah, the douchewagon2 is pretty universally hated.

**Catyrpelius**

Melissia wrote:
Yeah, the douchewagon2 is pretty universally hated.

I still enjoyed it more then the M3 Lee grind. Both tanks suck, but both tanks bring you two an awsome Tier 5.