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The first tiers fly by, especially when they run events. I hated facing shermans

Oh and still no bites in the queue for historical battles. Shame really. Oh well.

 Boblogik wrote:
Perhaps they are but from everything I've been reading, it sounds like its not as good as wot for ground combat so who knows.

I understand this is a WoT thread, but as an (ex)WoT player, I've been enjoying WTGF far more than WoT.

There are obvious issues that need fixing, but such is the nature of a beta. However, the basic gameplay has me far more enthralled and engaged than WoT ever did. I love the absence of an HP pool, and armour means a lot more in WT than it does in WoT.

While WT isn't perfect, I think its more fun in the way it plays. Plus, the tank models are gorgeous; much nicer than WoT's models.

To each their own. Some people like the fairly predictable HP system where each shot deals 'X' damage. I prefer the WT system of slow decay of crew members and components, where armour and weakspot knowledge are worth more, especially considering that most guns have a hard time penning their tier equivalent in WT.

Signed, a bitter, ex WoT player.

 ace101 wrote:
Just joined up this past Friday, and as of Today my L.Track, T2, and M2 Med are elite and I have a Pimped M4 Sherman.

The M4 is a great tank and currently one of the prettiest with it's new HD model.

 Blacksails wrote:

 Boblogik wrote:
Perhaps they are but from everything I've been reading, it sounds like its not as good as wot for ground combat so who knows.

I understand this is a WoT thread, but as an (ex)WoT player, I've been enjoying WTGF far more than WoT.

There are obvious issues that need fixing, but such is the nature of a beta. However, the basic gameplay has me far more enthralled and engaged than WoT ever did. I love the absence of an HP pool, and armour means a lot more in WT than it does in WoT.

While WT isn't perfect, I think its more fun in the way it plays. Plus, the tank models are gorgeous; much nicer than WoT's models.

To each their own. Some people like the fairly predictable HP system where each shot deals 'X' damage. I prefer the WT system of slow decay of crew members and components, where armour and weakspot knowledge are worth more, especially considering that most guns have a hard time penning their tier equivalent in WT.

Signed, a bitter, ex WoT player.

this, a thousand times this.

i sarted playing WT like a week ago just doing the planes and i was like wow this is REALLY fun. Now that tanks are out i am still having fun even with all of the bugs.

I REALLY enjoy that kills are not a win condition in WT, it really takes the pressure off of having to carry your team all the time.

I also enjoy having "lives" in WT, getting killed or having a team of YOLOSWAG drooling publord babies derp themselves in the first 20 seconds is no longer an auto loss.

I also like that WT makes you a bit more interactive with your tank and crew. On fire? press the extinguisher button (you have to reasearch this as i found out the hard way). Tracks broken? press the repair key. It really starts to make you think about your actions before you just YOLO. Getting stuck in the open or having a damage turret REALLY makes you sweat in WT, in WoT i would just let my hp pool suck up damage until i was good to go.

i still have games where the team just wants to sit and camp but i still have fun in those games.

Giving war thunder a try tonight. about 30ish min left on the download.

Testing WT, I still prefer WoT. WT is a great simulator, but I want a game. I don't mind the HP pool and don't mind the push a button fire out. I don't like lives, if you Lemming rush and die, fine, but I really don't want you to come back.

Having done both now, I like both. They each have a unique feel. I am trying to unlock a new tank in wt since I dislike autoloaders. I enjoy the air battles a lot more in wt than world of warplanes

I have been playing quite a lot of Warthunder recently and I thought I would play some WoT tonight as a comparison. 4 utter massacres in a row due to poor matchmaking, I'm not going to bother playing WoT until they get that sorted out.

Warthunder has its problems but at least games are rarely onesided.

 Palindrome wrote:
I have been playing quite a lot of Warthunder recently and I thought I would play some WoT tonight as a comparison. 4 utter massacres in a row due to poor matchmaking, I'm not going to bother playing WoT until they get that sorted out.

Warthunder has its problems but at least games are rarely onesided.

I agree, the only one sided matches have really resulted from teams either working together or not. I'm finding myself enjoying wt a lot more than wot. I still play both and will continue to do so since wot has it's own feel, rewards, and the biggest factor is that my friends play it.

I still think that WoT is a better game but my enjoyment of it is far too variable.

I get frustrated with wot for 2 main reasons

1) Matchmaking is horrible about 80% of the time. No further explanation needed

2) The german tanks have some serious issues. For example, the L/70 was considered one of the best penetrating guns of the war and the panthers front armor was excellent, but the L/70 in the game has trouble penetrating the m4 sherman and many other tanks. And the panther's armor in game is a joke, looks in its general direction pene and sneezes cause engine damage (read: fire) or ammo racks.

There are a lot of one shot kills in WT but it makes sense and armor and shot placement really feel like they matter.

Game wise, I like the formats of both games. I like the one life deathmatch style of wot, it reminds me of a game I use to play in highschool (02-03ish) called americas army. But wt has a format I used to love and puts more emphasis working towards goals. Its set up very similar to one of my all time favorite games, Battlefield 1942.

Wt has a ways to go yet, that much is true but really its a great start just with this beta and I look forward to where it goes. I especially look forward to when they integrate the air and ground together.

But back to wot, I am about to buy the vk 36.01 h. That way to can eventually have myself a tiger to go along side my panther.

Yeah, the game designers did fudge some stuff against the germans as they are Russian, including placing german tanks at higher tiers than maybe they should have been placed, but we have to remember that we are playing a tank based arcade game, not some kind of historically accurate simulator.


And I played way too much WoT over Memorial Day weekend, so I may take a break and devote myself to some Planetside 2.

I'm going to try to get back into it after diving headfirst into the WTGF Open Beta. It's taken up most of my PC gaming time, but I think I'll enjoy WoT more after the small break I had. Charging up the Panther line to go with my Comet (which I'll be grinding as well) and my T20 (which I'll also be grinding). Hooray for mediums!

 Bromsy wrote:
Yeah, the game designers did fudge some stuff against the Germans as they are Russian.

I don't, given what is in tier 6 the Panther really should be in tier 7. The Russian bias really isn't borne out by the win/loss meta data, if anything there is a US bias.

 Palindrome wrote:

 Bromsy wrote:
Yeah, the game designers did fudge some stuff against the Germans as they are Russian.

I don't, given what is in tier 6 the Panther really should be in tier 7. The Russian bias really isn't borne out by the win/loss meta data, if anything there is a US bias.

Oh I agree, the panther is in the proper tier, based on the tanks in that tier, but the fact that it doesn't face its tier often is the problem. Its against tier 9 more often than it ends up being top tier. Doesn't change the fact that its armor is a joke but I've been reading and apparently I should get used to it because the highest tiers, armor no longer matters, everything penes everything.

 Boblogik wrote:

everything penes everything.

This isn't the case. There are some very powerful guns at tier X but then there is some very thick armour. Its not much different to earlier tiers truth be told.

Just got it a few weeks ago.Lag can be awfulne time It lagged the ENTIRE battle.And another time it didn't even get past loading.love it though.I picked Germans(Jadpanzer 1 loltraktor and the first German arty(The one that has loads of numbers)Although I am wondering:what happened to the leichttraktors?There were four made they were used in training and...that's it?Are they in a museum somewhere?
And:why do I only get to play 5 or so maps?Its winter and normal himmesldorf kalinova and 2 or three others.Is it tier?

so WT started mixed battles today, played the first and last 2 ill ever play. really not fun at all, words cannot explain how bad it was. fun = 0

It seems that the repair time has been increased to even more ridiculous levels. I had a jammed turret which would have taken me nearly 13 minutes to repair, whats the point?

I can't be bothered with WT either now.

 Palindrome wrote:

 Boblogik wrote:

everything penes everything.

This isn't the case. There are some very powerful guns at tier X but then there is some very thick armour. Its not much different to earlier tiers truth be told.

Glad to hear that I was misinformed. I will say this, the events wot runs definitely keep one interested.

 Palindrome wrote:
It seems that the repair time has been increased to even more ridiculous levels. I had a jammed turret which would have taken me nearly 13 minutes to repair, whats the point?

I can't be bothered with WT either now.

That's what made me not like WT the most. My turret gets knocked out and now I'm like a td with its gun facing sideways.

Adding air combat with the gound combat is going to make a lot of people leave. No one wants to be in a stressful battle between two tanks and then just get rocketed/bombed by a random airplane. Plus I would be mad if I was in a middle of a dog fight and some tanks aa gun blows me up...

Whilst not my highest scoring game, it was a blast since at one point it was me and a 1/2 dead KV1S vs six enemies.

 Palindrome wrote:

 Bromsy wrote:
Yeah, the game designers did fudge some stuff against the Germans as they are Russian.

I don't, given what is in tier 6 the Panther really should be in tier 7. The Russian bias really isn't borne out by the win/loss meta data, if anything there is a US bias.

Definatly this... The US line has some pretty bad ass tanks. If I recall correctly the T110E5 is still the most commonly used Tier 10 Heavy in clan wars.

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Reactivated my account and back at square one......"Jihadin"

I've been playing this game for a while and I really like the arcade style. My friends and I quit for several months and coming back they really fixed some problems I had. I have to say one of my favorite tanks is my Cromwell, it's a medium that drives like a light. Kv-4 and the is-4 are also some great fun. My tag is woefatt if anyone wants to platoon up.

Is there some kind of general rule or guide to how many battles you should have for each Tier?

Like you should have x,000 battles before getting into a Tier 8 tank...

 SickSix wrote:
Is there some kind of general rule or guide to how many battles you should have for each Tier?

Like you should have x,000 battles before getting into a Tier 8 tank...

No, but gerenally the higher the tier the more battles it takes to level through it.

The game plays alot different above tier 5 though, but once you learn about weak spots your good.

 SickSix wrote:
Is there some kind of general rule or guide to how many battles you should have for each Tier?

Like you should have x,000 battles before getting into a Tier 8 tank...

Nah, but generally you want to keep some tier V-VIIs that you like and can earn money with. Tier VIII and higher earning cash can be tough.

Just play as many tanks as you can afford and when you find ones you like, keep em.

I have my Chaffee, Luchs, KV1S and Hellcat that I will probably never sell, whilst I am pushing up the Soviet KV and IS trees, and the German Leopard, Tiger, and TD lines.

Be prepared to lose credits once you hit tier 8 (definitely tier 9) if you don't have a premium account.

I don't find higher tiers to be significantly different to lower tiers, I generally play the same (depending on what I am driving obviously).