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As promised... here is the flesh golem!

The flesh golem is parts of many creatures, bound together with flesh manipulating, necromantic magic and imbued with the soul of daemon. The daemon happily goes about its business enslaved only to the commands of its master. Hence the need for chains when not required...

I'd really like to see the green of this. Also, this is going to be metal? If so, could you could post some of the metal casts, that would be great so to see the quality of the minis from Minion Miniatures.

That is brilliant... he looks so confused!

'How did that third arm get there?!'

The models are being sculpted as we speak. Most of the models seen will be plastic models with the rest of the supporting models in metal resin. The greens are being 3d designed and for the plastics range. We will have a few images and three ups to show you when the Kickstarter launches so you will be able to see the quality before you decide to pledge.

We also have some traditional greens being sculpted that will be with us very shortly.

Keep your eyes peeled. More concept art to come before the greens...

yall's concept artist is REALLY great.

Why thank you! His name is Grigor and he is amazing. He has bought my vision alive!

Yeah, I like the looks of that thing. Is it wearing a sack over its head though? Or is that loose, tattered flesh?

 tre manor wrote:
yall's concept artist is REALLY great.

Agree - I'm not a big fan of undead factions in general. But your concept art so far them is fantastic. I hope it translates well.

I do love random haphazard creatures like that, what with all sorts of random parts stuck together. Especially so when they've got extra limbs for no real reason.

A figure like that deserves to have all sorts of random bits stuck on the sprue to play with.

That's a cool concept for undead, having the magic controlling them being a demon.

 HisDivineShadow wrote:

 AlexHolker wrote:

 plastictrees wrote:
He's trying to show his disdain for 'grimdark', the often over the top atmosphere most associated with Warhammer 40k and Fantasy Battle.

I am showing my disdain for poorly done grimdark. This is the lowliest of the undead, and you've already got two different bits of pathos that each diminishes the other.

People may take your arguments more seriously Alex, if you didn't sink your talons into the most inane, petty details, then proceed to spew like you do for pages on end.
I like the concept. Im excited to see what these guys put out.

I don't know why people care so much about some fluff for models. In the end they're just toy soldiers and their fluff is whatever the hell you decide it is... I think the Fungus-fluff for GW's Orks is beyond moronic, along with the term "Mon'Keigh". I just ignore both - in my version of 40k, neither exist. And Squats still do. If you don't like the fluff around these zombies but the models look cool, who cares about a tiny bit of background?

This is the Liche Priest... The Liche Priest is the most powerful of the undead within the Underdeep. He wields unimaginable dark necromantic powers that allows him to raise and manipulate the dead. Few who face this horror live to tell the tale...

This figure will be a Stretch Goal when the Kickstarter begins later this year.



The idea behind this model was to evoke a feeling of an ancient warrior, mummified and lying entombed somewhere within the Underdeep. He has been designed to be a contradiction.. he appears both weak and powerful. His frail limbs contrasted against his powerful pose and the fact that the dead worship him at his feet. I think it makes him more creepy!

We are actively seeking feedback so feel free to let us know what you think...

Thats a seriously cool liche! Looking forward to this launching.

will there be multiple options for assembly, such as alternative heads or arms?

There will likely be options with this model. Originally this was going to be a plastic model but it is now likely to be resin. There should be at least one head and arm option.

Looks great! The aesthetic of this project has been spot-on so far.

Please tell me you guys will put a ruler next to your figures when you've got samples ready.

Will he come with some sort of a base insert? There's a lot going on with all the hands rising up.

Sure... We can do that. I'm just waiting for the sculpts to come back! As soon as I have them you can see em!


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...and yes the base decoration will be part if the mini!

Good to hear.

Just don't line all the figures up in front of a tape measure.

Once we've got all these undead sketches out of the way, can we see more lizards?

Seriously cool design, can't wait to see it in miniature form.

@Highlord
Damn, I so badly wanted to make that joke, I think warprime have made wargaming history.

I hate to say it but that's going to have to become a dakka/ minis requirement from now on.

There's only one thing I'd suggest for this guy. I'd like to see an alternate head with some kind of death mask. Something like what the Dragon Priests from Skyrim wore. I think that'd up his creepy factor a bit more.

I'm moving soon, so money is going to be pretty tight for a little while so HURRY UP AND LAUNCH!

Schmapdi wrote:
I second SSquigs advice, and will add (to correct another Mantic mistake) - make sure to include proper plastic command bits (with a real sculpted banner) and a few extra heads for variety (if only one sprue - enough bits to make 2 different command groups would be ideal).

Would also be smart to have a few weapon options if you're only making the one basic kit. What I used to want Mantic to do was:

Sprue 1 - 10 soldier bodies, 10 heads, weapon arms for 2-3 different weapons.
Sprue 2 - "variety/command sprue" - half-dozen extra heads, champ weapons, instruments, banners, "fun" bits.

I'd like to see different weapon/assembly options as well. The drawings looks good so far.

We are planning to do this. The big question at the moment is whether to keep the hobgoblins and bugbears as plastic or to simply make them in resin and metal. This would of course be the same for the flesh golem and zombie hulk and for us to put all if our plastic resources into the goblins and zombies? This may make the kickstarter cheaper in the long run. We are estimating that with with sculpting costs and tooling costs with Renedra we would need to start the KS at around the £60k mark. Unfortunately making quality plastics with the best designers and the best plastic model makers does not come cheap! I would also like to say that this leaves only a minimal amount if profit for Minion Miniatures as a company so we are able to produce additional boxes to sell.

I'm in the US and I backed my first KS from the UK, mierce, and shipping was not included in that KS. My bank/cc dinged me twice to convert the currency because I had to pay shipping after the KS. I'm not sure if others from the US experience this or visa versa but allowing people from other countries to tack on shipping to their pledges may help them out. Food for thought.

Kaine Larson wrote:
We are planning to do this. The big question at the moment is whether to keep the hobgoblins and bugbears as plastic or to simply make them in resin and metal. This would of course be the same for the flesh golem and zombie hulk and for us to put all if our plastic resources into the goblins and zombies? This may make the kickstarter cheaper in the long run. We are estimating that with with sculpting costs and tooling costs with Renedra we would need to start the KS at around the £60k mark. Unfortunately making quality plastics with the best designers and the best plastic model makers does not come cheap! I would also like to say that this leaves only a minimal amount if profit for Minion Miniatures as a company so we are able to produce additional boxes to sell.

be careful there. Quality IS very important and I applaud your dedication to the satisfaction of the backers but do also remember that not profiting is not going to help you deliver the product. I have made that mistake myself. Businesses need profit to survive and thrive.

I think transparency is the answer here. To get a high quality product and leaving us with around ten grand to produce additional miniatures sounds fair to me. The KS in this format will hopefully suit everyone!

Put out the best goblin and zombie sprues that you can. Leave the big stuff for metal or resin initially.

Have your stretch goals add stuff to the sprues or add in command sprues and other fun bits.

You may consider having your initial funding goal just be to fund the goblin sprue in fact. A low initial goal and then 'stretchgoals' seem to have a certain psychological impact. Then have stretch goals adding in bits, bugbears in metal, etc. up until you reach the point where you can afford to do the zombie sprue, then do the same thing with the zombie sprue.

That total is just for the goblin sprues! The tooling costs are enormous, many people don't realise just how much it costs to get the metal tools made. However, once we hit our goal, each stretch goal will make two models or model sets available. One will be free to all pledges of a certain level, the other will be added to the addon store to be purchased separately. I have looked at cheaper options for the tooling, but I don't think it's worth it. Simply stated, Renedra make the best quality plastic miniatures I have ever seen. Each tool is hand made... not CNC machined which means the end product will be great! As a gamer, I think quality is the most important thing. The manufacturing will also mean the final product will be cheap! Which is good for you guys! Our early bird option will probably be around £110 and give you close to 200 goblins!!!

What currency will you be running the campaign in?

For whatever it's worth, there does seem to be less hesitancy for people to pledge (and pledge big) when the total is in US dollars. Even if they have to add on shipping (which I would expect).

Considering I've seen just as many little campaigns doing this as often as I've seen the likes of Mantic and other big Euro game companies, it might be worth looking into.