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HELLO - I'm planning to be at the NOVA again this year, and I'll most likely be taking some variation on my Slaanesh Daemons/CSM/Cultist armies. There's no chance of me being anywhere near a top table, but I'd love some help on putting together a list that won't be completely trashed!! NOVA is two detachment maximum, Knights included, Formations are detachments, no Lords of War, no FW.

Here's my first go - a mini-flying-circus Daemons list with CSM.

* Keeper of Secrets (Mastery Level 2, Greater Reward) - 215pts
* Keeper of Secrets (Mastery Level 2, Greater Reward) - 215pts
* Chaos Sorcerer (Mastery Level 3) - 125pts

* 12 Noise Marines (Icon of Excess, Doom Siren, 8 Sonic Blasters, 2 Blastmasters) - 343pts

* 12 Daemonettes (Icon) - 118pts
* 12 Daemonettes - 108pts
* 12 Chaos Cultists (MoS, Heavy Stubber) - 75pts

* Heldrake (Baleflamer) - 170pts

* Daemon Prince (MoS, Mastery Level 1, Greater Reward, Wings) - 215pts
* Daemon Prince (MoS, Mastery Level 1, Greater Reward, Wings) - 215pts

TOTAL - 1849pts

So, what to do? The basic idea is to compete based on flying goodies - I could fit in another Daemon Prince and drop a Keeper, I suppose, but Keepers are so good... The big points sink at the moment is the Noise Marine unit, but it's such a good firebase, especially with the Sorcerer. Also, NOVA missions tend to be heavy on the Objectives and I'm not sure if I have enough Troops - another squad of Cuiltists maybe? I like the idea of a Defence Line for the Cultists, but can figure out how to fit one in.

Why does the sorceror make the noise marines a firebase? Have you considered taking the crimson slaughter list to get free fear and access to divination

Im only seeing 3 flyers? Not really a circus (not that im complaining) . It looks strong enough offensively but low on troops.

Perhaps squeezing in another unit of cultists (they really dont need the mark of slaanesh.. or the heavy stubber) . Consider if the princes are going to use thief mastery level enough to make it worthy it.
I would consider a rhino better value than the icon of

Captyn_Bob wrote:
Why does the sorceror make the noise marines a firebase? Have you considered taking the crimson slaughter list to get free fear and access to divination

Im only seeing 3 flyers? Not really a circus (not that im complaining) . It looks strong enough offensively but low on troops.

Perhaps squeezing in another unit of cultists (they really dont need the mark of slaanesh.. or the heavy stubber) . Consider if the princes are going to use thief mastery level enough to make it worthy it.
I would consider a rhino better value than the icon of

Ah, crimson slaughter, yes. Good idea. I'm not taking veterans of the long war anyway, so might as well get free fear.

The level three sorcerer gives them a good chance of getting Symphony of Pain, effectively increasing the strength of all their weapons by 1. Coupled with re rolls from the basic Divination power (going crimson slaughter), you end up with 24 S5 and 4 S6 (or 2 S9 AP3 blast) shots, ignoring cover (and jink) and re-rolling hits. In this situation, not sure what he benefit of the rhino is - restricting them to only blast masters and losing a shot each if they disembark....?

You're probably right about the cultists. I can fit another blank squad of ten in, and just March them on late game to secure objectives.


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Ah, but would have to find 25pts to buy the bale star :(

Ah the sorceror has a mark of slaanesh. Ok well I wouldn't necessarily take the risk for one power, but it does all stack nicely. The unit size would rule out a rhino yes. The balestar also allows rerolls to psychic tests, so thats nice too. I would maybe drop a mastery level somewhere for some points. Consider if you need the icon or the doom siren.

Captyn_Bob wrote:
Ah the sorceror has a mark of slaanesh. Ok well I wouldn't necessarily take the risk for one power, but it does all stack nicely. The unit size would rule out a rhino yes. The balestar also allows rerolls to psychic tests, so thats nice too. I would maybe drop a mastery level somewhere for some points. Consider if you need the icon or the doom siren.

Yes, I guess the big question is if the Noise Marine units firepower is really worth the 300 points (+Sorcerer) they cost!!!

I baulk at doing Slaanesh CSM/Daemons without at least some Noise Marines, though.

You're right, I probably don't need the Doom Siren and, although the Icon seems like a good idea, I'll probably be deep striking that unit since I'll want all my scary guys to start on the table...

no grim/potty, KoS over DP, DPs without 3+? What is going on here lol? Do you have an affinity to certain units/models?

Just based off personal experience, you either go all the way with DPs or not bring them at all. Without a 3+ and a good shot at powers/grim, they go down VERY, very easily.

I feel like the list has too many diluted units, which will get removed off the table one after another. If you want to keep the number of models though, I would at the very least switch out one KoS for another DP. Flying MCs are where it's at for a Flying Circus list . You already paid the mandatory KoS tax, no need for a second!

I assume a grim means Grimoire of True Names, but what the hell is a potty?

Portalglyph.