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Hello everyone, I know I may be late to the party here but it recently came up in my gaming group so I figured I would try to get a conclusive answer. When you make a Smash attack, your attack stat is halved but it reads as if only a single one of the attacks has the doubled strength. Now I read it as the number of attacks halved is all together the "smash attack", but my group reads it as a single attack as it says it singularly every time and even uses the phrase "that attack" at one point (the word "that" showing singularity, as well an a singular "attack"). Now I still interpret it as all the attacks halved is the "Smash attack", but I also find validity in their arguments.

Thanks ahead of time guys, and here is the rule for those people without books on hand:

Smash
All of the close combat attacks, except Hammer of Wrath Attacks,of a model with this special rule are resolved at AP 2 (unless it's attacking with an AP 1 weapon). Additionally, when it makes its close combat attacks, it can choose to instead make a Smash Attack. If it does so, roll To Hit as normal, but halve its Attacks characteristic. A Smash Attack also doubles the model's Strength (to a maximum of 10) for the purposes of that Attack. Furthermore, a model making a Smash Attack can re-roll its armour penetration rolls, but must abide by the second result.

How me and my group have been doing this is like this. you take the base # of A and reduce it by half (round down) then add in all things that give you extra A (like charging, CC weeps, ext)

so if ur Hive T has 4 attacks and smashes, he now has 2 attacks +1 for charging, +1 for a set of scything T's. so back to 4 attacks.

 death_scythe wrote:
How me and my group have been doing this is like this. you take the base # of A and reduce it by half (round down) then add in all things that give you extra A (like charging, CC weeps, ext)

so if ur Hive T has 4 attacks and smashes, he now has 2 attacks +1 for charging, +1 for a set of scything T's. so back to 4 attacks.

But my issue is more with how many of the attacks gain the double attack value. Is it a single affected attack, all attacks that round, or only the halved attacks from the initial attacks characteristic?

Halve the attacks characteristic, double the strength characteristic, proceed as normal. Nowhere does it say that making a Smash attack limits you to one attack, it applies to all of the attacks made in that round (except stuff like Hammer of Wrath, of course).

 death_scythe wrote:
How me and my group have been doing this is like this. you take the base # of A and reduce it by half (round down) then add in all things that give you extra A (like charging, CC weeps, ext)

so if ur Hive T has 4 attacks and smashes, he now has 2 attacks +1 for charging, +1 for a set of scything T's. so back to 4 attacks.

but page 5 of the BRB says that any fractions round up. A model with A5 will have the same number of Smash attacks as one with A6 (other rules notwithstanding)

smash would be far more balanced if it did initiative 1 as well. it's for wrecking vehicles not for going "well, i want to instant-kill that guy instead".

I also heard that you're meant to round up the half attacks, not down. makes tervigons a no brainer - 1 less attack for S10? bargain.

I think you guys are missing his concern.

Yes, it makes a singular 'Smash Attack'; but that action will include several actual melee attacks. Just like a devourer gaunt will make a singular 'shooting attack'; but that action will include 3 actual shots.

Well said, coredump.