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 MrDwhitey wrote:
It's totally not a nazi anime girl in panty shot themed trash fest.

So, erotizing nazi as underage pinups. I thought Japan had issues dealing with its own past. Apparently, Japan has issues dealing with history.
(Though I am pretty sure there are a lot of decent Japanese people that would not want to be associate with this kind of stuff at all.)

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

 MrDwhitey wrote:
It's totally not a nazi anime girl in panty shot themed trash fest.

So, erotizing nazi as underage pinups. I thought Japan had issues dealing with its own past. Apparently, Japan has issues dealing with history.
(Though I am pretty sure there are a lot of decent Japanese people that would not want to be associate with this kind of stuff at all.)

If there isn't something the Japanese can't turn into a girl, make a visual novel on and allow you to f*ck it virtually then it probably doesn't exist.

Also if you have been in japan for 15 minutes and haven't seen a half naked woman running around screaming at the top of her lungs then you're probably not in japan or something is terribly wrong.

I am joking of course but it's just so ridiculous. I wonder what nobunaga oda would've thought if he knew he was made into a cute anime girl for weird harem anime nerds. He probably would've conquered japan and then forced seppuku on everybody in japan. Hard to say.

 flamingkillamajig wrote:

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

 MrDwhitey wrote:
It's totally not a nazi anime girl in panty shot themed trash fest.

So, erotizing nazi as underage pinups. I thought Japan had issues dealing with its own past. Apparently, Japan has issues dealing with history.
(Though I am pretty sure there are a lot of decent Japanese people that would not want to be associate with this kind of stuff at all.)

If there isn't something the Japanese can't turn into a girl, make a visual novel on and allow you to f*ck it virtually then it probably doesn't exist.

Rule #34 is always in effect

 flamingkillamajig wrote:
Also if you have been in japan for 15 minutes and haven't seen a half naked woman running around screaming at the top of her lungs then you're probably not in japan or something is terribly wrong.

Uh, what?

Anyway, I thought Japan seemed weird just because it was a far away foreign culture. And then I went to South Korea. Now I think they are just weird . I may forgive them because of Jailhouse 41, Robo-Geisha, A Distant Neighborhood, Alien versus Ninja and Vampire girl versus Frankenstein girl, but barely.

Most of my 'DIY' characters in RPGs are females, because I'd rather be staring at a female (probably in skimpy armour) for hundreds of hours than a guy.

Summed it up nicely for me too

Also female dwarfs are usually highly amusing.

I really don't buy that excuse (mind you, I also don't think you NEED an excuse to play either gender in a game). It seems rather lame, since most of the time you are looking at the world around the character if you're actually playing the game.

 Melissia wrote:
I really don't buy that excuse (mind you, I also don't think you NEED an excuse to play either gender in a game). It seems rather lame, since most of the time you are looking at the world around the character if you're actually playing the game.

This.

It's not like the man butt of your male characters was magically drawing your eyes toward it. Well.. for most of you anyway.

 Melissia wrote:

 Spyder68 wrote:
If a product wasn't good.. it wouldn't be successful.

Justin Beiber.

I don't think its possible to come back from that one..

I was being slightly facetious.
But here is a visual element to picking a female character for me. And no, before the overweight guy in moms basement comments begin, Im not him.
Its not the defining reason, I've had loads of male toons in MMOs but depending on the race choices and general graphic options I have no problem rolling a curvy female. /shrug

Not reading the entire thread, they missed a very obvious reason. If I am going to be staring at a toon's backside for hours at a time when I play a game, I would rather it be a hot female model and not a male model. That's in 3rd person only games. If its a first person primary game then yeah, male character because it really doesn't matter.

I originally thought that people were joking when they said they play either gender for their respective backsides. It's come up so often in this thread that I'm starting to believe you're all completely serious...

Col. Dash wrote:
Not reading the entire thread, they missed a very obvious reason

We certainly didn't in this thread. It's been mentioned several times, and the answer to it is usually as follows:

 Melissia wrote:
I really don't buy that excuse (mind you, I also don't think you NEED an excuse to play either gender in a game). It seems rather lame, since most of the time you are looking at the world around the character if you're actually playing the game.

 Melissia wrote:
I really don't buy that excuse (mind you, I also don't think you NEED an excuse to play either gender in a game). It seems rather lame, since most of the time you are looking at the world around the character if you're actually playing the game.

I agree there is no excuse needed to play a Gender, character, race class in a game.


but i do not disagree with It seems rather lame, since most of the time you are looking at the world around the character if you're actually playing the game

If that is the case, then why does it matter if some games don't have female characters at all ?

Shouldn't there be 1 unisex and 1 race in video games with no customization ?


The character you are playing is the center point that you constantly see no matter where you go. Character Class, Character Race, Character Gender will always be in that world your looking at while playing the game.
If a class has all around bad looking armor.. i sadly wont play it.


Or did i miss something ?

 Avatar 720 wrote:
I originally thought that people were joking when they said they play either gender for their respective backsides. It's come up so often in this thread that I'm starting to believe you're all completely serious...

I have to agree with this.. i always thought people joke when they say this.. never thought people were serious.

 Spyder68 wrote:
If that is the case, then why does it matter if some games don't have female characters at all ?

That's a loaded question, because it assumes that the only reason you'd ever pick a female character is to look at her ass.

 Melissia wrote:
I really don't buy that excuse (mind you, I also don't think you NEED an excuse to play either gender in a game). It seems rather lame, since most of the time you are looking at the world around the character if you're actually playing the game.

You never played WoW, did you? I only played the free part, but yeah, boring walk through the same boring, very repetitive, mostly inanimate scenery, to do some boring quest. I am not into stupid bikini armor, but unlike, say, fighting games, the reason make sense. I am not saying it is a good reason, but it make sense.

Col. Dash wrote:
Not reading the entire thread, they missed a very obvious reason. If I am going to be staring at a toon's backside for hours at a time when I play a game, I would rather it be a hot female model and not a male model. That's in 3rd person only games. If its a first person primary game then yeah, male character because it really doesn't matter.

So, male because it does not matter. Not I do not care, because it does not matter. Male by default.

I played World of Walking, yes.

It still really doesn't sound like a serious response to me.

Instead it sounds like the response people make when they're insecure about playing the other gender.

 Melissia wrote:
It still really doesn't sound like a serious response to me.

Trust me, it is.

 Melissia wrote:
Instead it sounds like the response people make when they're insecure about playing the other gender.

Nope, sorry, they really see their character as just eye candy. Did the combination of body shape and outfit not make that obvious enough?

Not really, since in many games it's impossible NOT to create a character whom has what society considers an attractive body. So I don't make that assumption.

Lineage 2 comes to mind.

I am not saying everyone do choose a female character for that reason. I am saying some people are choosing a female character for that reason. If game propose this option, and sometime makes it the only one available for female character, it is not just by chance, or because the game-maker are out of touch with their audience…

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
I am not saying everyone do choose a female character for that reason. I am saying some people are choosing a female character for that reason. If game propose this option, and sometime makes it the only one available for female character, it is not just by chance, or because the game-maker are out of touch with their audience…

I know you aren't saying that's the only reason (my response a few posts above was not directed at you).

But I still find it hard to believe that this is the honest reason for it.

What, your faith in humanity is not shattered enough?
So, let me post that.
Now, do you find it easier to believe ?

More seriously, I do not understand why you have so much trouble with this. I mean, the concept of pin up is not exactly new, many music video are all about portraying women in “sexy” position (see for instance that. Yep, it is just that bad!), the woman's body is pretty much always erotized in our society… why are you so skeptical about people taking female avatar just to gaze at them?

Yes, I know the offensive stereotypes.

That doesn't mean I believe that they are, more often than not, true.

In spite what people claim, I actually do view men as better than that.

True for everybody all the time? No. I know first-hand . True for most of those that actively confess it? Oh yes they are!
If you have any other explanation for the art displayed here, please share it with me.

For that?

Liefeld can't draw.

Period.

And yet people emulate him anyway, thinking his style is not vomit-inducingly bad.

It's the same reasoning behind the sidemouth syndrome. "You can't criticize my art for being gakky, it's stylistic!"

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
True for everybody all the time? No. I know first-hand . True for most of those that actively confess it? Oh yes they are!
If you have any other explanation for the art displayed here, please share it with me.

Dear god! Did the person who drew this not understand that women have bones too?

The person who drew this? There must be at least a hundred different artists featured there!

... inspired by Rob Liefeld's horrendous "art".

 Melissia wrote:
For that?

Liefeld can't draw.

Period.

And yet people emulate him anyway, thinking his style is not vomit-inducingly bad.

So, you are going to blame those hundreds (or maybe thousands already) of art from a lot of different sources on just one guy?
I mean, you cannot seriously blame him for that, can you?

Not exclusively, no. But you can't deny that he had a huge influence on a ton of art in the "Escher Girls" tumblr.

Well, it is called "Escher girls" and I only saw a couple of drawings which were remarkbly similar before posting so I thought that this was a blog mocking the horrible cheesecake art of one German guy. I am even more saddened now that I know that a bunch of different people drew these... works. What's worse is that their attempts to be sexy fail horribly despite the risque outfits and large busts. Nothing kills a boner more than a body contorted to a horrifying degree.

You know what I find strange? That a lot of these alleged sexy girls are supposed to be fighters of some sort. Why do we sexualize violence so much? Besides being an odd aspect of our culture I really find it odd how fighters manage to look so good. Wars aren't clean. There are fragments, mud and dirt being thrown around. Sure as hell ain't no time to put on conditioner and eyeliner. And wearing really skimpy outfits is a nice way to get your skin jacked up by rocks, branches and what have you.