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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/14 12:53:53
Subject: Green Stuff Question
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Focused Fire Warrior
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I am going to purchase some green stuff. I've never used it before. Is there any difference in quality between brands? I found this on e-bay which seems to be the cheapest.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Green-Stuff-6-x-1-Kneadatite-Blue-Yellow-Epoxy-Putty-6-oz-16g-NEW-/400705248262?pt=Games_US&hash=item5d4be4dc06
I just didn't know if I should spend a little more and get a different brand. Has anybody used this before?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/14 12:56:24
Subject: Re:Green Stuff Question
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Dakka Veteran
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That is the stuff that everybody uses. Different companies put different labels on it, but that's the original so go ahead and get it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/14 15:43:12
Subject: Green Stuff Question
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Gargantuan Gargant
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There are differences in the working and cured properties of different epoxy putties, more generally, but GS is GS. As Dullspork said, Kneadatite is the original manufacturer that other companies re-brand.
Only downside to that particular product is the fact that it comes in joined strips. This often leads to mixing and curing at the seam, resulting in lumps of already cured putty in your mix if you aren't careful. The larger tube that contains each part as a separate plug is a better deal (cheaper per volume and no material lost to unwanted curing), but it's also a larger initial expense - well worth it, if you plan to do a decent bit of sculpting/gap-filling.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/14 16:14:10
Subject: Green Stuff Question
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Focused Fire Warrior
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Thank you both. I'll start with this 6" strip for 4 bucks and if I decide to use it consistently in my modeling I'll order the separate tubes when I reorder. Automatically Appended Next Post: oh, one other quick question though. One of the reasons I actually stayed away from the tubes was that I thought it would be hard to measure 1:1 ratios by scooping it out of the tube.
Is there an easier way to measure than that? or is it really a non issue?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/14 19:08:48
Subject: Green Stuff Question
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
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Trust me when I say, you will be better off spending the 8 extra dollars and get this:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Green-Stuff-Bars-Kneadatite-Blue-Yellow-Epoxy-Putty-NEW-3-52-oz-100g-/400697672789?pt=Games_US&hash=item5d4b714455
The ribbons you listed have the problem of curing wherever the green and yellow meet. This forms hard lumps in your mixed green stuff. You can just cut out the center part where they meet, but I find the tubes much easier to deal with.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/14 19:17:01
Subject: Green Stuff Question
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Cultist of Nurgle with Open Sores
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If you're just going to do the odd detail and gap here and there, get the strip. It'll last you a lot longer than you think.
If you plan to actually model large (infantry size +) stuff with it, get the tubes.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/14 22:09:18
Subject: Green Stuff Question
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Thane of Dol Guldur
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People keep saying about the joined blue yellow strips, but ive never had a problem.. I dont even cut out the middle bit. Just buy the strips.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/14 22:44:25
Subject: Green Stuff Question
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Suks wrote:oh, one other quick question though. One of the reasons I actually stayed away from the tubes was that I thought it would be hard to measure 1:1 ratios by scooping it out of the tube.
Is there an easier way to measure than that? or is it really a non issue?
When I use the stuff I pinch off a bit of each and roll them around with my fingers separately until I have two spheres which are about the same size. I mix those together by rolling them in to snakes, and then twisting them together repeatedly until everything is a uniform tone of green. GS and most other epoxy putties are pretty forgiving when it comes to mix ratio. You want to get as close to 50:50 as you can, but a bit too much yellow or blue won't be the end of the world. Getting it fully mixed should be your primary concern.
Different mixes give you different properties which can be useful, but hold off on that until you get comfortable with the stuff. Working with GS is tricky at first because it is very sticky. You will get used to this in time. You can put some water on your fingers while applying it to a model if you are having issues. Vaseline petroleum jelly works well but you want a VERY small amount, more of a film than anything. Pros often just use the natural skin oil from the side of their nose which is pretty much perfect, although it sounds totally weird.
I do a ton of sculpting with Greenstuff, but I can remember how tough it was to get started with it. As you go on it will get much easier, and all the properties of the stuff that you didn't like will become super valuable later on. Feel free to DM me questions or add them to this thread as you start working with the stuff! Automatically Appended Next Post: queen_annes_revenge wrote:People keep saying about the joined blue yellow strips, but ive never had a problem.. I dont even cut out the middle bit. Just buy the strips.
I'd run into the crust between the strips but it was super easy to pluck those areas out before mixing. The tape kind is totally fine.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/15 00:59:32
Subject: Green Stuff Question
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Big Mek in Kustom Dragster with Soopa-Gun
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Greenstuff brands is more about how its given you than the product, far as i know anyway. All brands ive touched has been exactly the same in consistancy, just given to me in either different quantities or different ways. I buy some from my FLGS, i forget the brand, that comes with the green and purple halves separated into two tubes. Mainly because ive noticed if i leave the compound strip like you linked alone for a long period of time, sometimes it sticks to things that got bumped into it or worse it folds over itself and forces me to make a ton of it to get the proper mixture.
Greystuff i think is the same stuff, just different color.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/15 01:58:37
Subject: Green Stuff Question
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Making Stuff
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It's the 'same' in that it's a two-part putty, but it's very different to work with. Softer, with less 'bounce', and not as sticky. Automatically Appended Next Post: Suks wrote:oh, one other quick question though. One of the reasons I actually stayed away from the tubes was that I thought it would be hard to measure 1:1 ratios by scooping it out of the tube.
Is there an easier way to measure than that? or is it really a non issue?
The putty comes out of the tube. Just pop it out, break off a little bit and roll it into a ball. The grab a bit of the other half, and make a ball the same size. It doesn't have to be exact... In fact, a lot of sculptors mess with the ratio for different applications, as changing up the quantities of blue vs yellow changes the consistency of the putty. Automatically Appended Next Post: queen_annes_revenge wrote:People keep saying about the joined blue yellow strips, but ive never had a problem.. I dont even cut out the middle bit. Just buy the strips.
You've been lucky then.
If you only ever get really fresh stuff, it's not as much of a problem, but it does go hard along the joint as it gets older... and there's not really any way of telling how old the stuff you're buying is going to be.
There is nothing more annoying than getting halfway through sculpting a part and finding a hard piece of set putty in your way.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/15 07:49:30
Subject: Green Stuff Question
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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queen_annes_revenge wrote:People keep saying about the joined blue yellow strips, but ive never had a problem.. I dont even cut out the middle bit. Just buy the strips.
Agreed. I have a strip of the stuff from times immemorial and it didn't harden in the center. The bars seem to be a far better deal in terms of weight per dollar though.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/15 09:18:50
Subject: Green Stuff Question
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I think the brands and be lumpiness vary but I have the exact putty that you listed and its always smooth, I have never cut out the center part either. I would also suggest getting the 36 inch roll because its 10x more putty for just 8 more dollars or so.
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