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Iron Hands

Libby ML 2 - 90

Tac Squad (5 Man) - 110
Flamer
Drop Pod

Tac Squad (5 Man) - 110
Flamer
Drop Pod

Ironclad Dreadnought - 180
Power Fist w/ HF
Seismic Hammer w/ Meltagun
Drop Pod

Ironclad Dreadnought - 180
Power Fist w/ HF
Seismic Hammer w/ Meltagun
Drop Pod

Ironclad Dreadnought - 180
Power Fist w/ HF
Seismic Hammer w/ Meltagun
Drop Pod

Stormtalon - 125
Skyhammer ML

Stormtalon - 125
Skyhammer ML

Ultramarines

Captain Sicarius - 185

Command Squad - 190
Apothecary
4x Meltas
Drop Pod

Tac Squad (9 Man) - 176
Plasma Gun
Drop Pod

Tac Squad (9 Man) - 176
Plasma Gun
Drop Pod

Sternguard (5 Man) - 170
Heavy Flamer
Melta Bombs
Drop Pod

With this list I wasn't looking for real level of competitiveness, I just don't want to get curb stomped by an average list. Any tactics, tips, comments, or suggestions would be very helpful. - Thanks Fsbl

Major weakness i can see just off the top is that if you have that libby as your warlord he is going to get picked off very quickly. T4 with 2 wounds and only a 3+ save isnt a very survivable warlord.

At a minimum consider uping his armour

Also with all those flamers, why iron hands over salamanders?

ghilliemarine wrote:
Major weakness i can see just off the top is that if you have that libby as your warlord he is going to get picked off very quickly. T4 with 2 wounds and only a 3+ save isnt a very survivable warlord.

At a minimum consider uping his armour

Also with all those flamers, why iron hands over salamanders?

Because I value IWND for 3 Ironclads, 9 Pods, 2 StormTalons, Sicarius, a Libby and 6+ FNP for everything over making 1 Heavy Flamer and 2 Regular Flamers better and MC Bolters....

I guess I should up make the Librarian more survivable.....but how...?

The shield eternal, Armour Indomitus, storm shield, bike, or just use a different model entirely.

Also sicarious and his command squad dont benefit from Iron Hands tactics. None of your ultramarine detachment does.




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If your hellbent on keeping the libby as your warlord then I would set him up like this,

force weapon, shield eternal, ml 2, comes out to 140pts.

You want him to at least be able to take a few hits before going down.

New List with a more survivable warlord.

Iron Hands

Captain - 190
SoE, AA, TH

Command Squad - 190
4x Meltas
Apothecary
Drop Pod

2x
Tac Squad (5 Man) - 120 Each
Plasma Gun

3x
Ironclad Dread - 180 Each
Power Fist w/ HF
Seismic Hammer w/ Meltagun
Drop Pod

2x
Stormtalon - 125 Each
Skyhammer ML

Ultramarines

Libby ML2 - 90

2x
Tac Squad (9 Man) - 166 Each
Flamer Drop Pod

Sternguard - 165
Heavy Flamer
Drop Pod