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Great stuff it is great that your sister appreciates the work. A great idea, and you executed it really well. The next project sounds cool as well. Enjoy your rest, enjoy Gencon and hen come back with a bang.

Thanks

Much enjoyment anticipated and I'll probably be fiddling with parts if the next rama soon.


I haven't decided yet... but the next loer terrain comp just started and I've had an idea... it would technically be a diorama too so it would go here.

Nice completed diorama grimdork .such a clever idea for a gift, much better than a blank piece of paper inside her envelope . I never got into dr. Who, either the old ones or the newer series, just never took the time.

The Dr Who series are an acquired taste. I never acquired it either. However, it has its fans, and I'm glad that they have a show they enjoy.

This diorama is fantastic. A neat idea and so well executed. A wonderful gift.

Dioramas are explicitly welcomed GrimD. So, bring it

Thanks guys

I think it came out a bit more.. I dunno... simple than I'd have liked but I only get so much time to hobby so I did what I could.

I've watched most of the recent doctor who stuff... definitely not a 'Whovian' but I can understand them.

@Red, just posted on your comp page, probably biting off more than I can chew but we'll see


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Rough concept of what I might do for the LoER comp round 11.




Building all of the terrain from scratch most likely, just placeholders there.

Yeah that last thing didn't pan out, it was going to run pretty close to the infinity samurai/ninja Diorama in terms of due dates and I had to cancel, lame, I know.

But here are the models I'll be using for the next diorama:


Mushashi, a ninja sniper, and an oniwaban ninja.

Neat models! Looking forward to seeing where this goes.

I may see if my inferior drawing skills allow me to make a sketch for my reference, if successful, I"ll share it.

Looking forward to this.

Everything is primed, going to start researching techniques for the OSL on the oniwaban and the disappearing sniper ninja. Mushashi is just going to get my best effort but no fancy techniques.


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Got a few sketches coming in a minute. Should give a basic idea of what I'm working towards.




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So the big question is: should I put the oniwaban inside a building hiding in the shadows with some form of OSL, *or*, should I put the oniwaban on street level with his back to a building (maybe some graffiti, or other items to make it interesting) using active TO camo to blend in like the sniper?

The first makes the tension in that the samurai is opening a door cautiously while a shot is being trained on his position, the second makes the tension as the samurai has sensed the hidden ninja and is preparing to swing blind to defeat his opponents attack.

Thoughts?

I'm also considering moving the sniper ninja to more of a corner to give her some distance, will probably play around with that a bit as I get the scenery started.

After some quick mock-ups I think I may have to go with something more like this.

The oniwaban needs to be left and mushashi needs to be right, it's the way they're sculpted, you're kind of looking at both of their backs if I flip them. Also, 3 buildings is almost too much, makes it hard to see everything.

Now what, though? How to paint the oniwaban on the ground. I could do something similar to the camo effect on my malignos?



Kind of grey-scale the 'hidden' portion maybe like it's cycling out of camo, with a bit of a blue tint and bright blue/white lines where the camo has already dropped. I can't really paint him like the environment because it'll be open behind him. I guess I could to imply a building behind him but that may not be obvious enough to sell it.

Also will need to mount the sniper at a downward angle or she'll look stupid. Still planning on painting her like a billboard behind her.


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Here's more:


Gonna go with this, proceeding to glue everything into place. The building will get a texture and the ground will too, will probably add a fence post for the mesh fence, and I'll be creating new barrels for the dio since I"m giving it away.


This should be fun, I can put the mesh pattern on the TO camo effect, should look cool if I manage it


Will probably make the set's barrels taller so he won't have the option to just hop them



She's gonna need some bit of scenery to help achieve that angle.

A couple of layers of the plaster cloth stuff over the wire mesh. The building has a crooked look, but I don't think I really mind. I need to plan and arrange for anything that's going to be set in, like the door and any windows or advertising boards, before I apply the outer layer of plaster stuff. I may also attach a railing of some kind to the roof as I want those in my eventual board. Slow going, I may have to deploy this gift late.

The barrels will build up fast, may even try to do those later today since they're so easy... And the fence won't take a lot of work. I'm still trying to decide how to paint everybody though.

Does Miyamoto Mushashi have a distinctive color/style to his outfit? Like those flower-pattern (not sure what you call the cloth, its not a kimono, just don't know the name) 'suits' or did he usually wear dark brown or something?

I beleive on men the top part is a Kimono or possibly a Shitagi http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shitagi . Bottom part might be a Hakama which is worn over the Kimono.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hakama

I dont know of any pattern, colours or dress type closely associated with Mushashi beyond tales of him being rather unkempt.

Here are two depictions of him





I would say black or red for the armour as they were the most common armour colours. For the clothes underneath either go for Deep Blues, some dark greys or Brown depending on what works best with your armour type.

I have a tutorial somewhere for simple patterns on Samurai clothing. I will dig it out for you.

Huh. Are those, by chance, by the same artist? The pants are pretty much the same...

Google search would seem to suggest nothing really concrete about clothes, I could probably go with a flat single tone or do something neat like those above, and those would be a much better attempt to get better at painting so... Thanks

Thanks for looking for the tutorial btw, appreciated

There is a more complex guide somewhere but this should be useful.

http://www.flamesofwar.com/Portals/0/all_images/WargamesIllustrated/ArticlePics/WI312%20Web%20Files/ArchiveArticles/WI278-WEBPaintingSamurai.pdf

A few pages down under simple cloth patterns.

Also you might find inspiration in this painting guide which shows how to paint several unarmoured Samurai from the Koryu Buntai from Northstar. Something I have to order at some point.

http://nstarmagazine.com/RONIN_1_1.htm

Hope that helps mate.


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No idea if the artist is the same mate. If you want to mimic that design for a miniature I recommend simplifying it by drawing t of five straight lines next to each other with the ones in the middle being larger and the ones on the outside being smaller which should form a nice simple triangle design similar to the one in the pictures. That should create a similar look.

The links are handy, thanks! Actually quite a bit more interested in painting Mushashi now that I have some patterns in mind.

I guess the Oniwaban ninja should probably just be black though huh.


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I'm thinking of a similar thing, maybe triangles, maybe asterisk/flower shaped, but blue for the pants. I wanna do a blend though, should I do light waist to dark hem, or dark waist to light hem?

Just black might be a bit boring.

Maybe a different colour like a like grey/blue or maybe light brown paper colour or something for the areas that are green on the official model.



Or take a leaf out of metal gears book

Hmm interesting.

Maybe I'll try something at the bottom of the pants that isn't a horizontal line, just so I can be a snowflake

I almost want to paint the green parts of the arms metal to imply that he's got prosthetic arms for fighting, or at least partial power-support like a HI but just in certain places... but there's no way I'll finish the project AND randomly master NMM to a degree that I'm happy with it.

Maybe paint them like Namir from Deus Ex: HR
http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110906004208/deusex/en/images/thumb/d/da/Namir-bustshot.png/250px-Namir-bustshot.webp

Link seems busted.


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But I follow, muscle suit. That may not be a bad idea at all.

http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110823190942/deusex/en/images/4/4b/DX3_Jaron_Namir_concept_art.jpg

Yeah the guy is complexly augmented below the neck. The body is all fake muscles etc.

Might be a bit of a challenge to paint the arms to look like muscle but boy it could certainly look cool! It would also make me feel better about leaving the pants black.


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Maybe to make it more obvious they're supposed to be mechanical muscles I could paint silver then do the linework with black, then red glaze/wash. Hmm... Could paint it more like an anatomical model too...

Really looking forward to seeing these painted up.

Its also made me really want to dive into the infinity JSA at some point but I have models from Arianda, Nomads and Haqq to paint up first.

Yeah. I'm starting to get more interested now. And I kind of want both the Oniwaban and Mushashi too. Might have to pick another of each up some day.

They are both great models I was going to go for JSA just to get an excuse to use Mushashi but I saw an Ariadna Highlander starter box for less than half price and went for that, mostly cos I love the SAS guy.

Yeah those are cool.

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Might be a bit of a challenge to paint the arms to look like muscle but boy it could certainly look cool! It would also make me feel better about leaving the pants black.


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Maybe to make it more obvious they're supposed to be mechanical muscles I could paint silver then do the linework with black, then red glaze/wash. Hmm... Could paint it more like an anatomical model too...

This will wind up giving you a metallic red scheme. Go with this and do up the hard armor bits on his body in white and you ought to wind up with a pretty striking looking Oniwaban.

As you say, am I keeping the leggings black at this point?

I would say go the anatomical model root myself. Keep the black though in order to stick with the ninja theme.

Most people tend to stick with either black or very dark grey pants on the Oniwaban. I'd stick with the dark colored pants as well unless you want to try designing him to go with a specific environment.