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2014/05/23 06:17:46
Subject: X-Men: Days of Future Past Discussion *Spoilers*
Got back from seeing it and it was quite good; it is certainly up there with the best of the series. Quicksilver came out much better on screen than in print and advertising, and was one of the highlights of the movie. The level of brutality they showed with the Sentinels was quite surprising as well, and would advise those with kids to see it before taking them.
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They did an excellent job of cleaning the slate of the previous films while also not ignoring them. The ending with Logan seeing friends long thought dead was, while not really a huge shock, was still a really nice moment. Of course seeing Apocalypse at the end was a treat as well.
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2014/05/23 06:29:34
Subject: X-Men: Days of Future Past Discussion *Spoilers*
Overall it was ok. One issue that had me scratching my head, how do you build a complex jet powered robot without any wiring? Yeah you can build the outer shell and some of the components with non conductive polymers, but electronics and circuitry use metal. Especially back in the 1970's.
Everything in the entire movie centered around Mystique which I found a little meh, obviously the assassination plot was key to moving the story along but also being the entire base for all the technology. It seemed more like mystique the movie featuring some Xmen.
While dated I really prefer the old school sentinel look, the new ones just look like that crappy robot from Thor, complete with a face laser. Was not keen on them at all.
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2014/05/23 17:57:08
Subject: X-Men: Days of Future Past Discussion *Spoilers*
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2014/05/23 18:04:48
Subject: X-Men: Days of Future Past Discussion *Spoilers*
Yes. I don't think it is worth it in 3D. The 3D doesn't detract from it, but it also doesn't really add much. The one exception being the Quicksilver scene, but you won't be missing out on the experience. If you liked 1,2, and First Class you will like this one.
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2014/05/24 01:51:44
Subject: Re:X-Men: Days of Future Past Discussion *Spoilers*
Overall it was ok. One issue that had me scratching my head, how do you build a complex jet powered robot without any wiring? Yeah you can build the outer shell and some of the components with non conductive polymers, but electronics and circuitry use metal. Especially back in the 1970's.
Everything in the entire movie centered around Mystique which I found a little meh, obviously the assassination plot was key to moving the story along but also being the entire base for all the technology. It seemed more like mystique the movie featuring some Xmen.
While dated I really prefer the old school sentinel look, the new ones just look like that crappy robot from Thor, complete with a face laser. Was not keen on them at all.
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Pretty much. Although I assume in 2023, they found some ways around that? I'm not sure, the whole sentinel thing seem a bit too much like BS to me. Especially considering Mystique's powers are kind of crappy anyway. She can mimic the look but she can't mimic the powers, like when she fought wolverine in x1 and her claws got ripped into shreds by his genuine claws.
The movie raises more questions than it answers. Like what happens now during the events of X1 onwards? Why is Mystique; in the guise of Stryker, the one dragging Wolverine up from the river now? Does Wolverine still go through weapon X? We never see him with his adamantium in the future
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2014/05/24 02:04:57
Subject: Re:X-Men: Days of Future Past Discussion *Spoilers*
Figuring out how she can change at will allows them to figure out how to make the future Sentinels mimic different abilities as needed, but it wasn't solely her but combined experiments/torture done to other mutants; she was just the catalyst for figuring how to make adaptive sentinels.
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2014/05/24 02:56:30
Subject: X-Men: Days of Future Past Discussion *Spoilers*
Really glad they blanked X3. Very happy with the movie overall. Even if there were some silly plot holes I considered it worth it and it was an excellent hero movie overall.
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2014/05/24 03:25:27
Subject: Re:X-Men: Days of Future Past Discussion *Spoilers*
We never see him with his adamantium in the future
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Yes we do. He stabs Shadowcat with them during his freakout after seeing Stryker in Paris.
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2014/05/24 03:27:11
Subject: X-Men: Days of Future Past Discussion *Spoilers*
I'm glad they finally decided "continuity is difficult, so feth it". It's going to make future storytelling a lot easier, and it really reflects just how goddamn confusing the X-books were round bout when I stopped reading comics. So, faithful adaptation!
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2014/05/24 03:54:51
Subject: Re:X-Men: Days of Future Past Discussion *Spoilers*
You think with all the times he's accidentally stabbed somebody while raging in his sleep that they'd learn to restrain him ahead of time or at least put corks on the tips of his claws.
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2014/05/24 06:11:47
Subject: X-Men: Days of Future Past Discussion *Spoilers*
Going with a girl from work Monday, so I'm avoiding the spoilers text. But is it true that the movie kills X3? That's all I care about. Bring back Cyclops.
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2014/05/24 06:31:21
Subject: Re:X-Men: Days of Future Past Discussion *Spoilers*
I think it is safe to assume that he still his adamantium claws in the "new" future since the ending of Days of Future Past erased what happened in The Last Stand and therefore The Wolverine since that movie takes place after The Last Stand.
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2014/05/24 07:46:28
Subject: X-Men: Days of Future Past Discussion *Spoilers*
soundwave591 wrote: honestly it was boring for allot of it, this movie seems to be a set up movie, which is good and all but I wouldnt pay to see it again.
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angel is dead? I recall magneto or mystique saying something like that in the past, but he was in x3 so how was he dead in the correct* time period?
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There are two Angels in the X-Men movies: Angel Salvadore (Tempest) from First Class, who was killed by Project Wideawake before Days of Future Past (Mystique finds her autopsy report in Trask's files) and Angel (Warren Worthington III) from The Last Stand who, according to promotional material for Days Of Future Past, was killed by Sentinels in 2011 during the Occupy Wall Street protests.
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2014/05/24 08:21:30
Subject: X-Men: Days of Future Past Discussion *Spoilers*
soundwave591 wrote: ooooooh i thought that was pixie or something like that. So is the other one still there, or?
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I explained the fate of both characters. However, the case could be made that Warren Worthington is still alive in the retconned future since his death occurred after The Last Stand. Tempest (Angel from First Class) is still dead though; she died before the events of Days Of Future Past.
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2014/05/24 10:13:19
Subject: X-Men: Days of Future Past Discussion *Spoilers*
Watched it last night, loved it. Easily as good as First Class. And honestly, I could watch Jennifer Lawrence in that suit all day even if she's doing the most boring, pedestrian gak in the world. Mystique goes shopping! Mystique knits a sweater! Mystique does laundry! I'm there.
2014/05/24 20:54:50
Subject: Re:X-Men: Days of Future Past Discussion *Spoilers*
Mystique does squats! Mystique touches her toes, as seen from behind! Mystique eating a banana! I'm with you, man.
I'm going to go see it on Monday. I already read all the spoilers, but I figured why not, it's not like I didn't read the comics back int he day anyway. There was a great criticism I read here that you might want to read as well: specifically, it touches on why boning the continuity is bad for this (and any other, really) franchise. Many spoilers abound.
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2014/05/25 01:02:38
Subject: X-Men: Days of Future Past Discussion *Spoilers*
However, it doesn't change the fact that personality-wise, Cyclops is one of the lamest X-Men. He's pretty much the Marvel equivalent to Superman; the one dimensional, archetypal "Boy Scout" hero. Unfortunately for the character, the screenwriters and James Marsden did Cyclops no favors in any of the movies.
His power is kind of cool, I guess, but when compared to the other core team members (specifically during the "Blue Team" and "Gold Team" days in the 90s) it's bottom tier. I'll give him credit for being the leader of the Blue Team and being smart enough for drafting Jubilee for the team so there is at least one other mutant with lamer powers than him. Keep in mind his team also had Wolverine (nearly invincible with unbreakable metal claws), Rogue (super strength, flying, and the ability to steal other mutants powers... plus sexy as hell), Gambit (a professional thief that throws explosive playing cards and is a total badass because he hooks up with Rogue), Beast (super strong and agile plus one of the smartest people on the planet and has the whole misunderstood monster thing going for him), and Psylocke (an Omega-level mutant that is also a ninja... possibly even sexier than Rogue).
I get it though, to each his own and all that, but at the end of the day Cyclops is still a tool to me.
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2014/05/25 03:47:11
Subject: X-Men: Days of Future Past Discussion *Spoilers*
ScootyPuffJunior wrote: He's pretty much the Marvel equivalent to Superman; the one dimensional, archetypal "Boy Scout" hero.
This is false, for both Cyclops and Superman.
ScootyPuffJunior wrote: Unfortunately for the character, the screenwriters and James Marsden did Cyclops no favors in any of the movies.
You are right about the writing, wrong about Marsden. Marsden was a good pick, but was given a badly written and developed character. They seemed to think he was just there to get in Logan's way with Jean, and that is a kind description. I also blame Singer for screwing up Cyclops.
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2014/05/25 03:54:05
Subject: Re:X-Men: Days of Future Past Discussion *Spoilers*
I dunno, I think I agree with Scotty - Cyclops has pretty much always sucked, at least up to when I stopped reading right (right after the X-Tinction Agenda, so a while ago).
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2014/05/25 04:20:37
Subject: X-Men: Days of Future Past Discussion *Spoilers*
Cyclops was fairly inspiring early on, but in the 90s he became possessed by Apocalypse. He changed drastically then. Became much more of a badass. He is far from a one dimensional character now. I'll agree he used to be, way back when. If you think he still is, you don't have a clue.
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2014/05/25 04:31:56
Subject: X-Men: Days of Future Past Discussion *Spoilers*
Ahtman wrote: This is false, for both Cyclops and Superman.
In reference to their "classic" characterizations it is not, which is where the X-Men movies draw most of their influence from. They are both Idealistic, natural-born leaders that are also wholesome goody two-shoe "all-American heroes." I know, especially with Cyclops, that recent portrayals of them in the comics try to make them "edgier" and "grittier" but I just don't buy it. Cyclops is still that lame douchebag that he always has been.
You are right about the writing, wrong about Marsden. Marsden was a good pick, but was given a badly written and developed character. They seemed to think he was just there to get in Logan's way with Jean, and that is a kind description. I also blame Singer for screwing up Cyclops.
Well we can disagree about James Marsden. Personally, I am not a fan; just have a look at his filmography, most of the movies he is in suck hard. However, he was pretty decent in Hairspray and Enchanted, so there's that I guess.
Still, even if the character was written better that wouldn't change my opinion on him. I just plain do not care for the character and the bottom-tier coolness of his mutant power. I mean, his optic blasts are somewhat similar to what Bishop can do (and yes I understand the fundamental difference between the two powers, but I'm just using it as an example) and the character of Bishop is about 100 times better than that of Cyclops (not to mention the cool guns he uses and the badass "M" brand over his eye).
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timetowaste85 wrote: He is far from a one dimensional character now. I'll agree he used to be, way back when. If you think he still is, you don't have a clue.
Oh no, I very much have a clue.
The thing is, I don't care as much about how he is portrayed in the current X-Men stories because I don't read them like I did when I was in high school in the 90s. Furthermore, I think it makes him even lamer that they've tried to change the in to a "contemporary" and "edgy" (just like the "punk" revival of Storm in the 80s...). I find it irksome when they try to "re-brand" classic characters like that. I know it a bit of a conundrum, but I'd prefer the character to stay the same because as lame as I think he is, at the end of the day it's what makes Cyclops, Cyclops.
Again, I base all of this from my heyday with X-Men comics, which includes the X-Tinction Agenda, Fatal Attractions, and the Onslaught Saga.
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