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Not in da book

Didn't it originate on Natfka's Blog? Yeah...

No idea...it just got stuck in my head from these boards, so I figured I'd dispel the rumor.

I'm so glad it wasn't in. It was beyond silly when we had it, though a d6" move shouldn't be that tough to avoid.

 Lobukia wrote:
I'm so glad it wasn't in. It was beyond silly when we had it, though a d6" move shouldn't be that tough to avoid.

A d6 move, disordered charge, and allowing overwatch should be enough to make consolidation manageable, which is what my group uses.

Sure sometimes someone gets lucky and a prescienced Blood Angels Furioso contemptor dread tears through half an army with blood claws because an army was very bunched up, but that happens quite rarely and is easily defeated with proper spacing, as even with fleet rerolls; it's still only six inches if they're lucky.

Unfortunately it still results in the ridiculous situation where many charging units DON'T want to win a combat, because immediately beating the enemy gets them shot...

I'm not saying consolidation into combat is a good idea, but the present rules are also very silly, and a real kick in the teeth for effective assault armies - currently forces that are only mediocre at assault can actually do better by not beating the enemy???

Just bought the book, the 7ed rules thread stated that a "reliable source who sat with the book saw 4ed combat was in"

Not the case

I'm not to happy about it not making it in . It is kind of silly that assault armies still get the shaft this edition =/

afaik, every single 7th rumor outside the few things released in the White Dwarf was false and total bullcrap. 7th did nothing to help assault, in fact kinda made it more annoying since now challenge wounds "spill over" if they kill the opponent and theres excess wounds, and the -2" to charging in terrain means now you can possibly not even move at all in terrain.

"Oh but if you get within 1" you just need a 3" Yeah, tell that to my MANz that have a habit of failing a 3" charge in the old rules, with or without difficult terrain lol. Rolling snakeeyes means i dont move, at all.

My hopes were up at first because i saw nothing talking about Challenges until i reached the character rules. They just moved it >.< bastards lol i thought they got rid of that stupid rule.