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so... if I have a dice pool of say... 15. And I've fielded a wraithseer. can he manifest all three of his powers now?

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You can manifest 1 power per mastery level

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 Kommissar Kel wrote:
You can manifest 1 power per mastery level

I've been trying to find where this is stated, do you have a quote?
   
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 Cheexsta wrote:
 Kommissar Kel wrote:
You can manifest 1 power per mastery level

I've been trying to find where this is stated, do you have a quote?
The very first sentence of "Mastery level" in bold, at the start of the Psychic section.
   
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I read that, I was hoping there would be something else. It says it depends on the Mastery level, but doesn't specify how it depends. It's pretty reasonable to assume that it's one power per level (and that's the way I'll be playing it), but it's still only an extrapolation.
   
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 Cheexsta wrote:
I read that, I was hoping there would be something else. It says it depends on the Mastery level, but doesn't specify how it depends. It's pretty reasonable to assume that it's one power per level (and that's the way I'll be playing it), but it's still only an extrapolation.


If how many powers they can cast isn't equal to their mastery level, then how many powers they can cast wouldn't depend on their mastery level (as the rules state).

I agree it should have been explicitly stated, but this is the safest assumption you can ever make.



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That's where I went wrong. I was assuming it was dependent on their mastery level because 1. you can only manifest a given power once per turn now, and 2. you would be limmited by the number of dice in your pool, which is a result of your mastery levels.

But if that's the case, what about powers that take multiple warp charges? do they count as 1 power, or multiple?

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Just a note the rule doesn't actually say that a psychic power can only manifest once per turn. It's just poorly word.

It says a unit can only manifest a power once, same as it has always been.

 
   
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The new BRB says you can keep casting powers as long as you have dice in the pool, and powers that you haven't cast from a given unit. So if you have a punch of charges and only one caster, you can channel all those dice into as many powers as he has... which even with an ML 1 psyker is at least 2 powers due to psychic focus.
   
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It just states you can manifest as long as you have WC left.
Which is quite important since psykers can come with ML+2 spells easy.

For me it brings forth this question:
It says a unit can only manifest a power once. ( p24 bottom left bold )
If an IC joins a unit he becomes part of that unit for all intents and purposes ( p166 )
So if i for example joined 2 Psykers to a unit they couldnt cast the same power either?

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Ya, two farseers with fortune in one unit can only try to cast fortune once, as each "unit" can only attempt it once, and they're all in one "unit" now.

Side note.... A psyker can manifest all the witchfires he knows, all at separate targets. Brutally good.
   
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Consider it in-fighting, Psykers must not like being around other Psykers....
Still, over all, the changes appear to be a good boon to psykers.

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chanceafs wrote:
The new BRB says you can keep casting powers as long as you have dice in the pool, and powers that you haven't cast from a given unit. So if you have a punch of charges and only one caster, you can channel all those dice into as many powers as he has... which even with an ML 1 psyker is at least 2 powers due to psychic focus.


This is not right. Read the previous posts in this thread. A psyker may only manifest as many psychic powers as he has mastery levels. A mastery level 1 psyker knows 2 powers, but may only cast 1 each turn.

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YMDC has plenty of room for discussion veering away from the RAW, particularly in cases like this where what is being put forward as the RAW is absurd.

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 BarBoBot wrote:
chanceafs wrote:
The new BRB says you can keep casting powers as long as you have dice in the pool, and powers that you haven't cast from a given unit. So if you have a punch of charges and only one caster, you can channel all those dice into as many powers as he has... which even with an ML 1 psyker is at least 2 powers due to psychic focus.


This is not right. Read the previous posts in this thread. A psyker may only manifest as many psychic powers as he has mastery levels. A mastery level 1 psyker knows 2 powers, but may only cast 1 each turn.

In 6th, yes. I can't find that in 7th.

 
   
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I think BarboBot's point is right.

Mastery Levels
The number of psychic powers a Psyker can use each turn depends on his Mastery Level


This is EXACTLY how it's written in the book. I can't see anything else allowing to cast more than ML/turn. Having the Primaris for free is a bonus in the 'spellbook', not in the 'casting potential'.

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Mastery level equals the number of powers the psyker knows but if you have more than one psyker you can keep casting as long as you have the warpcharges and their not in the same unit trying to cast the same power. So my Grey Knight level 2 libby should be able to cast the force blessing, a witchfire power and a malediction in the same phase.
   
 
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