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 Brometheus wrote:
So now we know that CSM don't have access to Divination unless they are Huron (1/3 chance) or Balestar. Right?

A sad say for CSM indeed

 Desubot wrote:

 ausYenLoWang wrote:

 Iechine wrote:
Im having some PDF issues, why does the Heldrake blow now?

hull mounted weapon, so 45deg LOS arcs and cant wound outside of those arcs if i read right...

Doesnt templates and blasts kinda thing still wound out of LOS?

its a very narrow field to start the template in, and the small end still needs to be closer per torrent

You might have known that.. but there are plenty who argued the other side as you know, whether it was effective or not.

Personally, I'll take triple of the same Witchfire any day over a useless Artefact and Divination. Now I won't feel cheated if I roll up 3 blessings and 1 witchfire. Know what I mean man?

rigeld2 wrote:

 Iechine wrote:
Im having some PDF issues, why does the Heldrake blow now?

Hull mounted weapon, not 360 from the base anymore.

ausYenLoWang wrote:

 Iechine wrote:
Im having some PDF issues, why does the Heldrake blow now?

hull mounted weapon, so 45deg LOS arcs and cant wound outside of those arcs if i read right...

Vector Strike wrote:I just noticed Blood Angels lost almost ALL of its Fast stuff - only Baal Predators and Land Speeders are fast

 Iechine wrote:
Im having some PDF issues, why does the Heldrake blow now?

Previous FAQs doesn't count anymore. So Heldrake lost the Turret mounting on his weapons. It needs to be fired in a 45 degree arc from the muzzle of the weapon. So, you cannot hit people behind/at your side.

Hahaaaa, delicious.

 Brometheus wrote:
You might have known that.. but there are plenty who argued the other side as you know, whether it was effective or not.

Personally, I'll take triple of the same Witchfire any day over a useless Artefact and Divination. Now I won't feel cheated if I roll up 3 blessings and 1 witchfire. Know what I mean man?

even still far too expensive for his power :( if he had better survivability...

and lech you laugh now... look what they allow now with daemon allies... the only thing that really stopped me is now gone ill trade drakes for all that divination or free daemons

 jasper76 wrote:

I was expecting some kind of FAQ for Shadows in the Warp...none delivered. I guess the leadership penalty just hurts on those couple-three Perils of the Warp results.

Or Morale tests, or Pinning tests, or Psychic Scream, or Psychic Shriek, or Neuro Shredders...

In case you're missing the point, Shadow in the Warp has nothing to do with Psychic tests. It's -3 Leadership.

Projected Void Shields:

"If a weapon uses a template or blast marker and hits one or more units protected by a Void shield Zone, ignore the number of hits it would normally cause"

"Told you so" comment is then inserted here

 jasper76 wrote:

 Vector Strike wrote:

 jasper76 wrote:
It should be noted that Tyranids got the screwjob once again.

I was expecting some kind of FAQ for Shadows in the Warp...none delivered. I guess the leadership penalty just hurts on those couple-three Perils of the Warp results.

You aren't alone. Daemons of Tzeentch still get +3 Ld when manifesting Psychic Powers; it wasn't addressed in the FAQ. I don't know if you can keep the extra Ld for Perils tests...

I'd assume so, since they didn't FAQ it.

So Tzeentch daemons get +3 leadership, Shadows in the Warp gives -2 leadership...this only comes into play now if you're rolling on the Perils of the Warp table and hit one with a leadership test, or so it would seem...

Actually, Tzeentch Daemons only get a +3 Ld when casting powers. Since Perils tests are not casting, they may not use the bonus at that point. Expect some dead Heralds and Horrors. The only benefit to picking Tzeentch, at this point, is the re-roll saves bit. I was really hoping Tzeentch would get a +1 to casting rolls, or something like that, to represent how Magical they are. At this point, they're no better at Psychic crap than anyone else.

And SitW is -3, not -2.

 BlackTalos wrote:
"Told you so" comment is then inserted here

Since it was an Errata (ie: and actual changing of the way the rule was written), no you can't

Drager wrote:
No inquisition FAQ means no Objective Secured for Inquisition. May as well take them unbound.

I would assume that Digital Books, like Inquisition, have an updated version. I'm downloading mine now. There isn't a version number on my BL downloads page, unfortunately.

 grendel083 wrote:

 BlackTalos wrote:
"Told you so" comment is then inserted here

Since it was an Errata (ie: and actual changing of the way the rule was written), no you can't

Yep, if they have to actually re-write the rule to make it say it, then that means the old rule that was previously under discussion did NOT say the same thing...

 Elric Greywolf wrote:
Actually, Tzeentch Daemons only get a +3 Ld when casting powers. Since Perils tests are not casting, they may not use the bonus at that point. Expect some dead Heralds and Horrors. The only benefit to picking Tzeentch, at this point, is the re-roll saves bit.

And SitW is -3, not -2.

That's incorrect. Pg 24 of the Rulebook has a red-bordered box entitled Manifesting Psychic Powers Sequence and lists the five stages of manifesting a power. The entire box applies to manifesting a single power and it applies to each power you manifest in order. Since perils are listed as stage 3, then perils are considered a part of manifesting psychic powers. The rule for Daemons of Tzeentch specifically allows the +3 Leadership bonus "when manifesting powers", which includes ALL FIVE STEPS of the Manifesting Psychic Powers Sequence.

So yes, Tzeentch demons do get a +3 Leadership bonus any time they roll on perils.

Similar scenarios exist in CCGs with timing structures. The window of opportunity that Tzeentch's boon may be triggered opens before step 1 and closes after step 5 when the psychic power has resolved.

 grendel083 wrote:

 BlackTalos wrote:
"Told you so" comment is then inserted here

Since it was an Errata (ie: and actual changing of the way the rule was written), no you can't

Well, it confirms my thoughts on Intent and further proves my argumentation on the issue was correct, but as it is now written we can put the matter to rest!

And i will try to fully deflate the mounting Ego pressure

 Elric Greywolf wrote:

Drager wrote:
No inquisition FAQ means no Objective Secured for Inquisition. May as well take them unbound.

I would assume that Digital Books, like Inquisition, have an updated version. I'm downloading mine now. There isn't a version number on my BL downloads page, unfortunately.

I didn't notice any changes to Inq or AS.

 Shandara wrote:
No main rulebook FAQ yet it seems.

Or Sisters of Battle FAQ.

Sisters are a digital only rulebook. they'll never get a FAQ, just an update you have to download.

 Elric Greywolf wrote:

Drager wrote:
No inquisition FAQ means no Objective Secured for Inquisition. May as well take them unbound.

I would assume that Digital Books, like Inquisition, have an updated version. I'm downloading mine now. There isn't a version number on my BL downloads page, unfortunately.

Downloaded mine earlier, no apparent change.

Wraithknights can issue challenges if they are the Warlord!

 extremefreak17 wrote:
Wraithknights can issue challenges if they are the Warlord!

My Aspiring Sorcerer with a Force Sword accepts?

annnnnd squish : [

 Brometheus wrote:

 extremefreak17 wrote:
Wraithknights can issue challenges if they are the Warlord!

My Aspiring Sorcerer with a Force Sword accepts?

annnnnd squish : [

So close!

Kyutaru wrote:
According to the Chaos Daemons FAQ, Daemonology can be used by any psyker or brotherhood of sorcerers in addition to the disciplines on their army entry lists.

In other words, Pink Horrors can summon daemons.

Daemon Factory is officially allowed and sanctioned by Games Workshop.

Like there was any question, ruling any other way may have limited the amount of Daemon models people would want to buy; wouldn't be a COMPLETE cash grab if they hadn't ruled this way....

 extremefreak17 wrote:
Wraithknights can issue challenges if they are the Warlord!

That's not in the FAQ.

Also being the Warlord doesn't make them a character, how do they issue challenges?

It's just me or now Baron Sathonyx gives +1 to deploy rolls?

Page 48 - Baron Sathonyx, Bones of the Seer
Change 'chooses deployment zone' to 'goes first'

That looks quite tasty to start the game

 grendel083 wrote:

 extremefreak17 wrote:
Wraithknights can issue challenges if they are the Warlord!

That's not in the FAQ.

Also being the Warlord doesn't make them a character, how do they issue challenges?

Check the Iyanden supplement FAQ.

 grendel083 wrote:

 extremefreak17 wrote:
Wraithknights can issue challenges if they are the Warlord!

That's not in the FAQ.

Also being the Warlord doesn't make them a character, how do they issue challenges?

It is in the FAQ, it says that they gain a warlord trait and become characters. Imperial Knight warlords become characters as well.

 Magc8Ball wrote:

 grendel083 wrote:

 extremefreak17 wrote:
Wraithknights can issue challenges if they are the Warlord!

That's not in the FAQ.

Also being the Warlord doesn't make them a character, how do they issue challenges?

Check the Iyanden supplement FAQ.

Well it's a bit of a misleading statement without the "Iyanden" part

So I guess Melta Bombs might not be the tool for a sorcerer to take against an Imperial Knight warlord.....

Am I allowed to dislike you all?
Still waiting for my snail-mail book.
Should have gone to electronic for better searching.
Soon my precious....

Sorry, Talizvar. that sucks.

 grendel083 wrote:

 Magc8Ball wrote:

 grendel083 wrote:

 extremefreak17 wrote:
Wraithknights can issue challenges if they are the Warlord!

That's not in the FAQ.

Also being the Warlord doesn't make them a character, how do they issue challenges?

Check the Iyanden supplement FAQ.

Well it's a bit of a misleading statement without the "Iyanden" part

Yeah sorry, lol. I just got a bit excited and posted without being too clear. Yeah, if you make him the warlord in a Iyanden Detachment, he is a Character.

 grendel083 wrote:
Ork Wierdboyz use daemanoloogy instead of their awesome chart? What nonsense is this!?!

ya that sucks. I loved warpheads and the fun things they did.

But on the other hand, nobz are characters again

Unit: nob type IN character

they also noted that an 'ard boy nob is a character, but there is no entry for ork boy nob as a character so it seems boy mobs don't need to worry about challenges now