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Does a model that become a psyker through Scrolls of Magnus benefit from chaos psychic focus? I would say yes since the FAQ doesn't say anything else, and you need the mark of tzeentch to get the scrolls

Hmm... Not sure.

But oddly enough, if a Psyker gains a power it can take away their Psychic Focus power.

 grendel083 wrote:
Hmm... Not sure.

But oddly enough, if a Psyker gains a power it can take away their Psychic Focus power.

He isn't talking about Psychic Focus, but Chaos Psychic Focus.

 Hansisaf wrote:

 grendel083 wrote:
Hmm... Not sure.

But oddly enough, if a Psyker gains a power it can take away their Psychic Focus power.

He isn't talking about Psychic Focus, but Chaos Psychic Focus.

True. If you always get Tzeentch Firestorm it does make the scrolls abit more usefull, and since mastery no longer limits how powerful a spell you can cast it opens up alot of options

And what about that pirate guy who generates psy-powers randomly every turn? Huron.

Or he can't know primaris, right?

 koooaei wrote:
And what about that pirate guy who generates psy-powers randomly every turn? Huron.

Or he can't know primaris, right?

It says you can't swap the power you roll for the primaris power, doesn't say he can't have them.
Speaking of chaos psykers, Typhus got a slight buff since he'll always have 3/4 nurgle powers, if Chaos Psychic Focus applies to him

 koooaei wrote:
And what about that pirate guy who generates psy-powers randomly every turn? Huron.

Or he can't know primaris, right?

yep, he cannot swap. neither scrolls of magnus can as well.
I don't know if a sorcerer with this would lose his chaos psychic focus, because you're gaining a new power when the game already started - way after you rolled for your own psychic powers

My understanding is that if you have a non-sorcerer with the scrolls of magus that they would gain chaos psychic focus because they definitely have the mark of tzeentch (in order to have the scrolls) and they are now a psyker.

If this was on a sorcerer they would already have chaos psychic focus.

Huron does not have a mark of chaos so chaos psychic focus does not apply to him. My reading of psychic focus makes me think it also does not apply since that says you only gain the primaris after generation of powers, which happens at the start of the game before Huron has any.

Both the Scrolls of Magnus, and Huron's Hamadrya both say that the powers are *generated*. So as far as RAW goes I think the free primaris would apply.

As for HIWPI, nah. They were written before the word 'generated' had such specific import and were denied swapping for primaris. The powers were required to be random before, they should be random now. If someone really wanted the Tzeentch primaris though I'd let it slide, heck you can give it to anyone in the army for all I care, free of charge, its a waste of a warp dice anyway. Worst. power. ever.

JubbJubbz wrote:
Both the Scrolls of Magnus, and Huron's Hamadrya both say that the powers are *generated*. So as far as RAW goes I think the free primaris would apply.

As for HIWPI, nah. They were written before the word 'generated' had such specific import and were denied swapping for primaris. The powers were required to be random before, they should be random now. If someone really wanted the Tzeentch primaris though I'd let it slide, heck you can give it to anyone in the army for all I care, free of charge, its a waste of a warp dice anyway. Worst. power. ever.

Everyone in the army already has it. It's called frag grenade.

Kyutaru wrote:

JubbJubbz wrote:
Both the Scrolls of Magnus, and Huron's Hamadrya both say that the powers are *generated*. So as far as RAW goes I think the free primaris would apply.

As for HIWPI, nah. They were written before the word 'generated' had such specific import and were denied swapping for primaris. The powers were required to be random before, they should be random now. If someone really wanted the Tzeentch primaris though I'd let it slide, heck you can give it to anyone in the army for all I care, free of charge, its a waste of a warp dice anyway. Worst. power. ever.

Everyone in the army already has it. It's called frag grenade.

Ha! yah a frag grenade that doesn't count as assault grenades, can be denied, occasionally blows up in your hand, and costs about 50 points instead of free.