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Right,

according to the CSM book, our psykers must roll once on the God;'s table if we have a mark of Chaos. However the new psychic focus rules mean that chaos psykers automatically generate the primaris power for their chosen god.

Do I still need to roll on the table, or does the free power count as a roll?

Yes you need to roll.

Chaos psychic focus does not satisfy the requirement to "roll" at least 1 power on their relevant psychic discipline.

I figured that was the case. It seems the most logical of all.

Still no good reason to mark sorcerers then (apart from the Daemon Prince obviously)

I dunno about that. Marked Slaanesh is pretty good now, and Nurgle's powers have always been awesome.

Tzeentch is OK, good invulnerable save, firestorm is crud but can do some surprise damage, and doombolt is actually sound. Boon and Breath are truly awful.

Was thinking MoT + disc + prophet of the voices, for a 4++ and a 2++ 1/3 of the time, plus daemon rule and two rolls on daemonology. and a slim change of getting into position to doombolt across a parking lot.

I'm kinda upset that BA and SW lost their chapter powers but Chaos is still stuck with theirs. With the greater emphasis on psychers in 7th Ed. I unretired Typhus (Who went beast mode for me yesterday. I was really surprised.) I find myself thinking how awesome Iron Arm, Endurance Typhus would be.

I found myself bringing unmarked level 3 sorcerers now so I don't waste a power with the god powers. Unmarked can attach to any squad so Div sorcerer (Psychic cards say chaos can use Divination now) with a squad of nurgle oblits is nasty. Sorc buffs oblits and makes them even nastier.

About those cards, can we actually use those powers?

The FAQ only says we can use daemonology in addition to the others in their army list entry.

Serg Rush wrote:
I found myself bringing unmarked level 3 sorcerers now so I don't waste a power with the god powers. Unmarked can attach to any squad so Div sorcerer (Psychic cards say chaos can use Divination now) with a squad of nurgle oblits is nasty. Sorc buffs oblits and makes them even nastier.

Those psychic cards only tell you the RANGE of options that each army has. Divination is NOT granted to Chaos automatically, cards are not rulebooks and the rulebook doesn't authorize it either. The reason those cards like Divination is because of Huron and the Crimson Slaughter supplement (a relic that grants Divination to a sorcerer). If you want a Divination sorcerer, you need to spend the points to gain access to it.

Yeah.. the card isn't rules. Chaos have several ways of generating divination, such as balestar, scrolls of magnus, Huron .. no permission to take it on sorcerors..

Serg Rush wrote:
(Psychic cards say chaos can use Divination now)

They always could. Roll a 6 on the Scrolls of Magnus.
But nothing allows unmarked Sorcs access to the Divination discipline.

Serg Rush wrote:
I'm kinda upset that BA and SW lost their chapter powers but Chaos is still stuck with theirs.

Chaos Powers have listed WC costs and random generation on them already. SW and BA are relic books that didn't work like anyone elses. Easier to get rid of them then take the time to assign WC costs to every power. Especially with both books slated to be re-done (by rumor) within the next ~6 months with BA being as early as August.

I'm still not convinced that you have to roll for one power. Depending on how you read interpret the "Generating Psychic Powers" section.

It could be read that "Generating Psychic Powers" and that "Random Generation" is just one method of "Generation" and that gaining the powers through Psychic Focus and Chaos Psychic Focus as well as by having Fixed powers are also "Generated Powers" just not random.

True, but the book does say 'roll' not generate.

 welshhoppo wrote:
True, but the book does say 'roll' not generate.

Hmm where does the book say roll? In the CSM codex page 30 descriptions of the marks of chaos it says generate.

Page 70, under generating psychic powers.

fiftyvolts wrote:

 welshhoppo wrote:
True, but the book does say 'roll' not generate.

Hmm where does the book say roll? In the CSM codex page 30 descriptions of the marks of chaos it says generate.

Page 70 of the codex

Under the heading "generating psychic powers" is says a psyker with a mark of chaos must roll at least 1 power from the chart.

 welshhoppo wrote:
Page 70, under generating psychic powers.

Interesting. I guess that's RAW then, but I'm not convinced yet that it is RAI (though, RAI isn't particularly useful until they use an FAQ to clarify).