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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/02 19:26:01
Subject: Disrupt Teks...
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Agile Revenant Titan
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Am I missing something? Everyone seems to be running them with a Necron sniper unit in a night scythe. The thing is, from what I can read their weapon is poor....
Why is this such a common build?
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You sought to cower behind your walls, weakling? Instead, by the will of Khorne, you shall die behind them |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/02 19:31:33
Subject: Disrupt Teks...
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Thane of Dol Guldur
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Do you mean Destrukteks (Harbinger of Destruction), Despairteks (Harbinger of Despair), or something different?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/02 19:33:58
Subject: Disrupt Teks...
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Agile Revenant Titan
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Despair. My bad.
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You sought to cower behind your walls, weakling? Instead, by the will of Khorne, you shall die behind them |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/02 19:38:44
Subject: Disrupt Teks...
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Thane of Dol Guldur
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Yup
That weapon doesnt look so good, but when you mix it in with a unit of Deathmarks, it inherits the Hunters frokm Hyperspace rule, and wounds on a 2+
So its like a high S low AP auto-hit template that wounds anything the Deathmarks have targetted on a 2+
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/02 19:39:56
Subject: Disrupt Teks...
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Agile Revenant Titan
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Ok, wow. I really was missing something...
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You sought to cower behind your walls, weakling? Instead, by the will of Khorne, you shall die behind them |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/02 19:40:48
Subject: Re:Disrupt Teks...
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Thane of Dol Guldur
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/02 19:43:23
Subject: Disrupt Teks...
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Haemonculi Flesh Apprentice
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jasper76 wrote:Yup
That weapon doesnt look so good, but when you mix it in with a unit of Deathmarks, it inherits the Hunters frokm Hyperspace rule, and wounds on a 2+
So its like a high S low AP auto-hit template that wounds anything the Deathmarks have targetted on a 2+
Which is no longer in the FAQ I might add. Wasn't it specifically stated that it combo'd? I see grey area now. They also clarified that they can only mark one unit in the course of a game, no more teleporting and resetting their target.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/02 19:44:00
Subject: Disrupt Teks...
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Agile Revenant Titan
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Does that rule really work? Surely it's just the death marks that gain that rule?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/02 19:45:50
Subject: Disrupt Teks...
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Thane of Dol Guldur
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Red Corsair wrote: jasper76 wrote:Yup
That weapon doesnt look so good, but when you mix it in with a unit of Deathmarks, it inherits the Hunters frokm Hyperspace rule, and wounds on a 2+
So its like a high S low AP auto-hit template that wounds anything the Deathmarks have targetted on a 2+
Which is no longer in the FAQ I might add. Wasn't it specifically stated that it combo'd? I see grey area now. They also clarified that they can only mark one unit in the course of a game, no more teleporting and resetting their target.
I don't remember an FAQ about that, which is not to say that there wasn't one.
The second part of your sentence is true. I wish I would have thought about that back in 6th so I could exploit it! Automatically Appended Next Post:
It did in 6th.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/02 19:47:01
Subject: Disrupt Teks...
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Agile Revenant Titan
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How about bow in seventh?
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You sought to cower behind your walls, weakling? Instead, by the will of Khorne, you shall die behind them |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/02 19:47:30
Subject: Disrupt Teks...
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Before the release of 7th edition, it was FAQ'd to allow any characters that join the deathmarks to also gain the 2+ to wound rule against targets that the unit of deathmarks marked for death.
That FAQ no longer exists.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/02 19:48:54
Subject: Disrupt Teks...
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Thane of Dol Guldur
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Actually, yes it still works RAW without an FAQ.
"When a deathmark unit deploys, choose a non-vehicle enemy unit...to be their prey..."
Emphasis mine...so the rule is talking about the unit, not individual models in the unit.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/02 19:51:08
Subject: Disrupt Teks...
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Agile Revenant Titan
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Ok. I don't have my BRB with me, but are IC's still considered as part of the unit?
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You sought to cower behind your walls, weakling? Instead, by the will of Khorne, you shall die behind them |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/02 19:52:57
Subject: Disrupt Teks...
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Thane of Dol Guldur
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Don't have mine either, but ICs can join a unit...unless there is a drastic change I don't know about.
So if the IC joins the unit before that unit deploys, it should be subject to the Hunters from Hyperspace rule.
In any case, Crypteks are just Characters, and they actually have to be part of a unit (either a Royal Court unit, or a unit specified in the codex, which includes Deathmarks)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/02 19:59:45
Subject: Disrupt Teks...
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Haemonculi Flesh Apprentice
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@jasper- I would suggest opening a thread in YMDC because I am not so sure I agree with you. A cryptek is assigned to a unit yes, but he doesn't have the rule "hunters from hyperspace" or "neral hitmen?", sorry to lazy to grab my book but the idea is they don't have the special rule to gain the benefit anyway.
Just like the FAQ no longer exists that cleared up and allowed crypteks and wolfguard to score. Now everything scores yes, but are they objective secured because their unit was? Not clarified anymore.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/02 20:05:10
Subject: Disrupt Teks...
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Thane of Dol Guldur
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Yeah, but the way the rule reads, its the Deathmark unit that has that rule, as opposed to Deathmark models.
So if any character is part of that unit when it deploys, RAW, that whole unit gets Hunters from Hyperspace.
...but I'll post it to YMDC Automatically Appended Next Post: Here's the thread: http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/598447.page
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/02 20:12:04
Subject: Disrupt Teks...
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Haemonculi Flesh Apprentice
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Oh I can see the argument. I just think it can go either way. Thanks for the YMDC thread BTW
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/02 20:41:21
Subject: Disrupt Teks...
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Thane of Dol Guldur
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From the thread over there, it looks as though its possible that the FAQs may have made it into the electronic versions of the codex???
Can't say for sure, but a dude said that his electronic codex does cover this missing FAQ.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/02 20:45:14
Subject: Disrupt Teks...
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Agile Revenant Titan
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Wow, so maybe this unit is worth including? What do we think to night scythes and the unit as a whole? Ashame they can only pick one target unit.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/02 20:54:19
Subject: Disrupt Teks...
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Thane of Dol Guldur
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Yeah, that unit is a beast against non-vehicles. Night Scythes are probably the best delivery method (you could also buy a Veil of Darkness for a Harbinger of Despair, but it Deepstrikes).
You can add another unit of Deathmarks, and all units of Deathmarks you have will also get a 2+ to wound against this new target. All HfH targets are exploitable by all Deathmark units. So if you had 3 units, you'd have 3 targets that each of the 3 units would get a 2+ to wound on.
It was a vicious ant-infantry unit in 6th.
I'd say it still is in 7th, until you brought this up  But really do think HfH confers to characters who deploy as part of the unit, RAW.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/03 04:45:30
Subject: Disrupt Teks...
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Proud Triarch Praetorian
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It baffles me that the current FAQ has less info than the previous FAQ, despite the majority of the problems being the same in 7th as they were in 6th.
Despite thaty question being absent from the FAQ, if Characters are considered part of units, I see no reason why the Despair-tek's flamer staff can not benefit from the HfH rule if attached to Deathmarks.
DEATH & DESPAIR SQUAD FOREVER
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