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I discovered the other day that chimeras float in water, whereas the Lemon russ tank will sink.
Go figure.

Lol yup. The Chimera is awesome for getting across terrain that nothing else can, specially if its got a dozer blade.

Of course, the chances of a water feature actually turning up are minimal. I have yet to actually see one in years of playing.

As for odd water-related facts, I'm pretty sure someone ran the maths based on a Forge World book and worked out that if the specifications of the Land Raider were correct, it would actually have low enough density to float! Go figure indeed.

It's odd especially since the only terrain that really gets rules in the new 40k rulebook is terrain specifically made by GW, and none of that features water. Games with rivers and the like are fun though; if you can get some or make some they can definitely make a game interesting. I think the last time I played with someone who got to use that rule was 4th edition.

When you're alternating placing terrain, just plop down a big river or lake on the edge of each deployment zone. It'll protect your backfield and give a good angle of attack for your AFS teams.

 Paradigm wrote:
Of course, the chances of a water feature actually turning up are minimal. I have yet to actually see one in years of playing.

As for odd water-related facts, I'm pretty sure someone ran the maths based on a Forge World book and worked out that if the specifications of the Land Raider were correct, it would actually have low enough density to float! Go figure indeed.

Doesn't surprise me either way. I mean we already have APCs that can float:

Wait, is OP commenting the fluff/rules of the vehicles or the actual physical models?

 ClockworkZion wrote:

 Paradigm wrote:
Of course, the chances of a water feature actually turning up are minimal. I have yet to actually see one in years of playing.

As for odd water-related facts, I'm pretty sure someone ran the maths based on a Forge World book and worked out that if the specifications of the Land Raider were correct, it would actually have low enough density to float! Go figure indeed.

Doesn't surprise me either way. I mean we already have APCs that can float:

It's more the fact that there is fluff of Land Raiders driving along a riverbed to attack a Tau fortress, when, if the maths is right, they would just sort of bob along on the surface like horribly beweaponed rubber ducks.

That and the fact that the armour is apparently several feet think in places, which, if GW could do physics, isn't conducive to floating.

 Paradigm wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:

 Paradigm wrote:
Of course, the chances of a water feature actually turning up are minimal. I have yet to actually see one in years of playing.

As for odd water-related facts, I'm pretty sure someone ran the maths based on a Forge World book and worked out that if the specifications of the Land Raider were correct, it would actually have low enough density to float! Go figure indeed.

Doesn't surprise me either way. I mean we already have APCs that can float:

It's more the fact that there is fluff of Land Raiders driving along a riverbed to attack a Tau fortress, when, if the maths is right, they would just sort of bob along on the surface like horribly beweaponed rubber ducks.

That and the fact that the armour is apparently several feet think in places, which, if GW could do physics, isn't conducive to floating.

Remember, they're writers first, physicists never.

Mad_Proctologist wrote:
I discovered the other day that chimeras float in water, whereas the Lemon russ tank will sink.
Go figure.

I don't think you understand. If you go throw your chimera in a bath tub full of water, IRL, it will float. The russ will sink.

That's because the Russ has a hole on the front. The chimera doesn't.

I thought it'd be because of the models.


So that's why the Chimera has what is otherwise a usually worthless rule.

 n0t_u wrote:
I thought it'd be because of the models.


So that's why the Chimera has what is otherwise a usually worthless rule.

So if that's the case, does that mean any Chimera conversion that will not float is not WYSIWYG?

(I hope not, because my scratch-built one has a 2" hole in the bottom...)

I'm going to go test if the Rhino should be amphibious too.


Edit:
If you do not glue the back hatch it is only partially amphibious due to the driver compartment, if you glue the back hatch it is amphibious. Thus modelling for advantage if you glue the back door shut.

We actually had a swamp terrain board that was very well done with streams and islands all over the place made with water effect resin stuff. Was really cool, but is the only time in 20+ years of gaming I have ever seen a use for the Chimera Amphibious rule. The one time I have seen Chimeras on that board it was an 'ard Boyz game and the guy had a simple IG parking lot and never moved while his opponent got so bogged down it was silly.

 n0t_u wrote:
I thought it'd be because of the models.


So that's why the Chimera has what is otherwise a usually worthless rule.

So bathtub toys inspire rules now?

So now I am picturing a drunk Andy Chambers and Gav Thorpe tossing random plastic kits into a bathtub for shiggles back in the late 90s...

 Paradigm wrote:
Of course, the chances of a water feature actually turning up are minimal. I have yet to actually see one in years of playing.

Our resident guard player built a bunch of river and pond scenery to donate to the game store. He's a sly one.

squidhills wrote:
So now I am picturing a drunk Andy Chambers and Gav Thorpe tossing random plastic kits into a bathtub for shiggles back in the late 90s...

Nah, totally Kirby in a bubble bath driving Chimeras around and making pew pew noises.