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So I'm playing with an idea of making an ork army sometime in the future, and in anticipation of it I used the create a klan table on 1d4chan, but I came across a hitch. I'm thinking of doing an ork pirate warband that attacks shipping lanes and stuff, but I'm afraid that could limit my model count and acess to the big toys. I mean, can an ork freebootah even have a stompa? how will he deploy it?

The freeboota flys his ship carrying the stomp a above where he wants it to be. a grot pulls the lever.The stompa drops from the hanger on the ships underbelly*.TA DA!

*Warning:da killa krumpa meks of WAAAAGH!!!Skullkraka!are not responsible for any stomas destroyed this way.

That doesn't seem safe. Orky but safe.

Anyways would he have a proper waaagh he could put together? I dont understand how it works still

I don't think anything about your premise precludes having a large Waaagh - maybe this pirate ship is a massive hulking beast of a capital ship, or maybe there's a whole fleet of Ork vessels at the 'Ardmiral's command. Any Warboss that gets into big fights and comes home with lots of loot is going to attract plenty of followers, depending on how big/mean/green he is.

That said, I humbly suggest that you at least leave the pirate hats at home, on 16th century earth, where they belong, and not on big green space barbarians. The visual style of freebooterz makes my blood boil.

but pirate hates are awesome!

I guess freebootah's do everything old pirates did. hit lone ships and shipping lines but is it fair to say they attack planets in one big WAAAAGH! ?

Freebottas could have anything in the ork arsenal on their Krozers. Krozers can hold thousands of orks and munitions, far more than could ever be fielded on the table.

 Tiger9gamer wrote:
but pirate hates are awesome!

I guess freebootah's do everything old pirates did. hit lone ships and shipping lines but is it fair to say they attack planets in one big WAAAAGH! ?

It's a pet peeve of mine. If you like em, go for it, obviously - it's your army!

I think there's historical precedent for pirates that gathered in great enough numbers to plunder a town or city. Scale it up a bit and boom, Freebooter Waaagh.

Alright, I think that would be fun. Some ideas I want to toss around too...

One of them Is that would It be too rediculus to have the Kaptin's pride and joy capital ship to be a former space marine fortress monastery? think that would be properlly orky.. Forktress monsterousery

Fortress Monastery might be a little weird. Astartes Strike Cruiser, though? That'd be pretty dope.

how about a battle barge? =D

 Jambles wrote:

 Tiger9gamer wrote:
but pirate hates are awesome!

I guess freebootah's do everything old pirates did. hit lone ships and shipping lines but is it fair to say they attack planets in one big WAAAAGH! ?

It's a pet peeve of mine. If you like em, go for it, obviously - it's your army!

I think there's historical precedent for pirates that gathered in great enough numbers to plunder a town or city. Scale it up a bit and boom, Freebooter Waaagh.

pirates didn't sack towns as often as privateers, but, yeah, it happened. henry morgan practically made a career of raiding spanish settlements.


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 Tiger9gamer wrote:
how about a battle barge? =D

i'd say start small, and as your army grows, your kaptin will get bolder in his actions, and eventually capture such a grand proze as a battle barge. but he'd probably start with a plain old orky kill-krooza.

okay, sounds reasonable. after all my crew consists of the assault on black reach for now so that's smarter.

Other ideas for him: Comes from a "freebootah haven" type of world (maybe) and maybe has his brain in a box on his ship someplace and pilots bodies remotly (slight inspiration from pirates of the Caribbean :') )

Would it be fluffy to have a lot of lootas/flash gits?

 Tiger9gamer wrote:

Would it be fluffy to have a lot of lootas/flash gits?

Yeah An Ork can become a Freebooter for any number of reasons so both Lootas and Flash Gitz should be fine.

Well, I've always loved the idea of a band of Speed Freeks, and that's how I modeled my army. What I love about 40k though is you can kinda tell a story with your models. An Ork WAAAGH could contain any and all kinds of orks, pirates speed freeks and many klanz all working together.

Lets say you've got your pirates, your freebootaz and your flashy nobz (and maybe some flashy flash gitz!) In their tricked out battlewagons, but you've got some foot slogging goffs and their stompa, or maybe some deathskull trucks and a mysterious blue stompa that we're pretty sure used to be painted a different color last month . Or maybe your freebootaz have so many teef that they can afford a right stompy stompa they can deploy from orbit. (I think someone mentioned that idea, I love it )

That's the great thing about a Waagh, each squad could even be from a different clan.

 starbomber109 wrote:
Well, I've always loved the idea of a band of Speed Freeks, and that's how I modeled my army. What I love about 40k though is you can kinda tell a story with your models. An Ork WAAAGH could contain any and all kinds of orks, pirates speed freeks and many klanz all working together.

Lets say you've got your pirates, your freebootaz and your flashy nobz (and maybe some flashy flash gitz!) In their tricked out battlewagons, but you've got some foot slogging goffs and their stompa, or maybe some deathskull trucks and a mysterious blue stompa that we're pretty sure used to be painted a different color last month . Or maybe your freebootaz have so many teef that they can afford a right stompy stompa they can deploy from orbit. (I think someone mentioned that idea, I love it )

That's the great thing about a Waagh, each squad could even be from a different clan.

aaahhh... orks. the very model of diversity. many clans all uniting for one common goal... to stomp all other races out of existence. of course, once they run out of enemies, they just go back to fighting amongst themselves...
but seriously, i love the speed freeks. supercharged engines, loads of red paint, and enough dakka to go 'round twice...

On the subject of a Battle Barge or a Kill Kroozer, it's worth thinking about it this way:

Regardless of what it was before the orks get their mitts on it, it will be orky soon after. Even if they succeed in taking a battle barge, once the meks are done 'kustomizing' it, it will functionally, be an ork ship.

An ork ship that really gets a particular Chapter's nose out of joint, but still an ork ship.

A "Freeboota" planet is very plausible, but if you want to keep with the 'pirate' theme, you might also think about a Freebooter orbital platform (Port Rokall?). In either case, orks aren't just about fighting, and a wealthy Git might take over a planet/moon/orbital station and sell his services or the use of his orbital docks, to other orks.


On the topic of of keeping his brain in a jar, almost nothing is too implausible for orks, but this just doesn't sound very orky to me. I think the Kaptin would want to get 'stuck in' and would feel a bit constricted by 'remote piloting' a body from afar. Also, given the hardiness of orks, it's possible to do head transplants. Maybe he would just make sure to protect his head (a sweet pirate hat with a force field in it might do that), and come back with another body 'to have annuver go" if he was defeated. If the other orks found out that the kaptin wasn't really 'in da fight', it might lower their opinion of him (since he's not really risking his hide with the rest of them). I know that it's intended to evoke Pirates of the Caribbean, but it just sounds unorky to me, personally.

His 'brain' should be his pet Grot called 'brain' which he keeps in a box on his fortress.

Both.

At the same time.

Freebootas in support of a proppa klan.

Da Butcha wrote:



On the topic of of keeping his brain in a jar, almost nothing is too implausible for orks, but this just doesn't sound very orky to me. I think the Kaptin would want to get 'stuck in' and would feel a bit constricted by 'remote piloting' a body from afar. Also, given the hardiness of orks, it's possible to do head transplants. Maybe he would just make sure to protect his head (a sweet pirate hat with a force field in it might do that), and come back with another body 'to have annuver go" if he was defeated. If the other orks found out that the kaptin wasn't really 'in da fight', it might lower their opinion of him (since he's not really risking his hide with the rest of them). I know that it's intended to evoke Pirates of the Caribbean, but it just sounds unorky to me, personally.

I was thinking the range of his body transplants could reach down to the planet, but that forcefield idea works too. Or hell, even a displacement field/telly porta that only affects his head so he gets decapitated automatically when he dies. then his dok picks it up sews it on another body and the boss joins the fight again.

Don't even worry about what Orks can and can't do, they'll find a way to deploy a stompa on a ship if need be.

If Orks worried they couldn't do something they wouldn't be as prosperous as they are currently. In fact how most Ork technology works is just the pure belief that it will work, and in the end it does.

So if they want a stompa in space, they'll get a stompa in space one way or another. Go for your life on Ork fluff, nearly no limitations


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Don't even worry about what Orks can and can't do, they'll find a way to deploy a stompa on a ship if need be.

If Orks worried they couldn't do something they wouldn't be as prosperous as they are currently. In fact how most Ork technology works is just the pure belief that it will work, and in the end it does.

So if they want a stompa in space, they'll get a stompa in space one way or another. Go for your life on Ork fluff, nearly no limitations

Look. I'm all for sticking to an established identity, just read my Homogenization of the Chaos Space Marines thread. But when it comes to Freebooters, the only thing they'd conceivably not have is the high level of infantry that proper clans have. However, this is on a macro level. This should not show on the tabletop whatsoever due to the scope of the game. Let's say you had 100 boyz in your army. Those boys could be from a mob of 1,000 freebooterz just as easily as they could be in a 1,000,000,000 ork WAAAGH!

The unit differences don't show on tabletop. And believe me, there's a difference between a stompa and his bigger brothers. A stompa or gorkanaut is will within the price range of a freebooter clan.

Having said that, you are looking at a aesthetic difference. If I were you I'd find a way to look at the ork freebooter models from Dawn of War 2: Retribution and paint based on what you see there. If nothing else, at least remember striped pants.

Question, is your Kaptian leading the Waaagh! or a part of it? Doesn't really matter which one, but usually Kaptains are seen as joining a Waaaagh! for loot and fun, not to lead. This does not mean that it is unheard of, but that you don't really hear about it in ork fluff. Reason being that ork Kaptains just want a good fight and new gizmos for them to shoot.

As for the army, it can be anything that a normal ork clan would have. If the ork warboss wants a stompa, and if he has the materials, then the mechboy will make a stompa easy as that.

Finally, for the space port, it could be a giant rok that has had a space port built into it. What happens is that it is hidden in a asteroid belt in a system that is a stopping point for ships to travel, and they attack merchant ships and what not for their supplies, while gaining new ships in every raid, while staying hidden by being camouflaged by it surroundings. This way it is able to create a ork community that is solely for raids, and is a quick pit stop for orks that need repairs and to trade for equipment.

that sounds like a good idea =D thanks!


another idea to bounce around... what if the kaptin collected ships to ram together and make his own hulk?