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2014/06/12 14:42:39
Subject: Re:War Gear Flows to Police Departments
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Blood Angel Captain Wracked with Visions
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 Jihadin wrote:Why does LEO need crew serve weapons again? Anyone help me buy a clue for that?
You can't think of a reason for LEOs to have access to M2s or Mk19s?
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2014/06/12 14:45:01
Subject: Re:War Gear Flows to Police Departments
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Hallowed Canoness
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 d-usa wrote:If cops like patrolling the streets Fallujah style I hear they need security guys in Baghdad and soldiers in the military. 
Cool. Get a package deal. One nurse and a couple feth all useless Oklahoma cops.
Also the average LEO couldn't hack it in the military. That's why they're compensating with a badge and a ticket pad.
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I beg of you sarge let me lead the charge when the battle lines are drawn
Lemme at least leave a good hoof beat they'll remember loud and long
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2014/06/12 14:52:21
Subject: Re:War Gear Flows to Police Departments
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Jihadin wrote::
Cops operating a crew serve, which would be a massacre in NY being how they train their LEO on taking down a suspect :facepalm
With enough collateral damage, they might actually have a decent change at taking down what they were aiming for 
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2014/06/12 15:11:51
Subject: War Gear Flows to Police Departments
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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 Ensis Ferrae wrote: EmilCrane wrote:
An MRAP is not an M48, for one thing the M48 has a 90 or 105mm cannon, MRAPs come unarmed, or at least their function is unchanged if you remove the pintle mount. No one is talking about giving the police MBTs, but those MRAPs are going to waste and they actually have police applications, or least could be used by the police. A tank could not.
Actually, I'd rather see more of these MRAPs and the like retro fitted for S/R or forest fire/fire fighting duties, rather than your typical law enforcement applications. They can handle some pretty rugged terrain, and are pretty good at moving people from point A to B and I think people would be far less "against" the idea if they knew they were being used for strictly "good" things.
But they aren't.
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2014/06/12 15:18:23
Subject: War Gear Flows to Police Departments
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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 Frazzled wrote: Ensis Ferrae wrote: EmilCrane wrote:
An MRAP is not an M48, for one thing the M48 has a 90 or 105mm cannon, MRAPs come unarmed, or at least their function is unchanged if you remove the pintle mount. No one is talking about giving the police MBTs, but those MRAPs are going to waste and they actually have police applications, or least could be used by the police. A tank could not.
Actually, I'd rather see more of these MRAPs and the like retro fitted for S/R or forest fire/fire fighting duties, rather than your typical law enforcement applications. They can handle some pretty rugged terrain, and are pretty good at moving people from point A to B and I think people would be far less "against" the idea if they knew they were being used for strictly "good" things.
But they aren't.
I know... But it'd still be a better placement for them, rather than further militarizing LEOs
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2014/06/12 15:19:37
Subject: War Gear Flows to Police Departments
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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DOn't disagree. Its logical and workable. Therefore no chance in heck.
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
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2014/06/12 15:30:37
Subject: Re:War Gear Flows to Police Departments
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Blood Angel Captain Wracked with Visions
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d-usa wrote: Jihadin wrote::
Cops operating a crew serve, which would be a massacre in NY being how they train their LEO on taking down a suspect :facepalm
With enough collateral damage, they might actually have a decent change at taking down what they were aiming for
Especially if issued to the NYPD
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2014/06/12 16:48:19
Subject: War Gear Flows to Police Departments
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Ancient Venerable Black Templar Dreadnought
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Ensis Ferrae wrote: Talizvar wrote:What is that phrase, "You can have freedom or security, but you cannot have both."
I believe the phrase is "he who is willing to sacrifice freedom for security deserves neither" ... could also replace "deserves" with "gets"
Ah Benjamin Franklin: "They who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety".
I was leaning toward the Liberty side rather than safety anyway so it is all good and I have the correct quote rather than butchering it further... Automatically Appended Next Post: Hmmmm...
Just was thinking with those super heavy military type vehicles they can do double duty at finding sinkholes or water main leaks by just driving them around?
Could be interesting to see what bridges or overpasses they would not be able to drive on.
The military rifles just have the fine question of how far or how much stuff can these bullets pass through until they stop? Hitting civilians a quarter mile away from a full auto discharge would suck.
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2014/06/12 18:12:54
Subject: War Gear Flows to Police Departments
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
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Talizvar wrote:The military rifles just have the fine question of how far or how much stuff can these bullets pass through until they stop? Hitting civilians a quarter mile away from a full auto discharge would suck.
Don't know about penetrating power, but according to Wikipedia the M4 rifle has a single target range of 500 meters, or 1/3rd of a mile.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M4_carbine
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2014/06/12 18:13:12
"So, do please come along when we're promoting something new and need photos for the facebook page or to send to our regional manager, do please engage in our gaming when we're pushing something specific hard and need to get the little kiddies drifting past to want to come in an see what all the fuss is about. But otherwise, stay the feth out, you smelly, antisocial bastards, because we're scared you are going to say something that goes against our mantra of absolute devotion to the corporate motherland and we actually perceive any of you who've been gaming more than a year to be a hostile entity as you've been exposed to the internet and 'dangerous ideas'. " - MeanGreenStompa
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2014/06/12 19:19:29
Subject: War Gear Flows to Police Departments
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Hallowed Canoness
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Remember the accuracy the NYPD displays? I don't think we should give them non-firing cap guns, even then they'd still manage to randomly murder a few innocent bystanders per "apprehension"
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I beg of you sarge let me lead the charge when the battle lines are drawn
Lemme at least leave a good hoof beat they'll remember loud and long
SoB, IG, SM, SW, Nec, Cus, Tau, FoW Germans, Team Yankee Marines, Battletech Clan Wolf, Mercs
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2014/06/12 19:30:51
Subject: Re:War Gear Flows to Police Departments
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Battlefield Tourist
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 Dreadclaw69 wrote: Jihadin wrote:Why does LEO need crew serve weapons again? Anyone help me buy a clue for that?
You can't think of a reason for LEOs to have access to M2s or Mk19s?
It's so they cna try to kill the crew or criminals operating the 155mm Long Tom Artillery gun that they legally purchased under their 2nd Amendment rights (according to some).
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2014/06/12 19:41:27
Subject: Re:War Gear Flows to Police Departments
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2014/06/12 19:41:57
Proud Member of the Infidels of OIF/OEF
No longer defending the US Military or US Gov't. Just going to ""**feed into your fears**"" with Duffel Blog 
Did not fight my way up on top the food chain to become a Vegan...
Warning: Stupid Allergy
Once you pull the pin, Mr. Grenade is no longer your friend
DE 6700
Harlequin 2500
RIP Muhammad Ali.
Jihadin, Scorched Earth 791. Leader of the Pork Eating Crusader. Alpha
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2014/06/12 20:28:30
Subject: Re:War Gear Flows to Police Departments
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Tzeentch Aspiring Sorcerer Riding a Disc
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Its hard to be awesome, when your playing with little plastic men. 
Welcome to Fantasy 40k
If you think your important, in the great scheme of things. Do the water test.
Put your hands in a bucket of warm water,
then pull them out fast. The size of the hole shows how important you are.
I think we should roll some dice, to see if we should roll some dice, To decide if all this dice rolling is good for the game.
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2014/06/12 20:33:30
Subject: Re:War Gear Flows to Police Departments
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5th God of Chaos! (Ho-hum)
Curb stomping in the Eye of Terror!
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Ooooooo... I want one!
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Live Ork, Be Ork. or D'Ork!
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2014/06/12 20:38:52
Subject: Re:War Gear Flows to Police Departments
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
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WANTED-French WWI 75mm Field gun21 May '14 In any condition and any location. Also, looking for optical sight for the same cannon.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2014/06/12 20:39:43
"So, do please come along when we're promoting something new and need photos for the facebook page or to send to our regional manager, do please engage in our gaming when we're pushing something specific hard and need to get the little kiddies drifting past to want to come in an see what all the fuss is about. But otherwise, stay the feth out, you smelly, antisocial bastards, because we're scared you are going to say something that goes against our mantra of absolute devotion to the corporate motherland and we actually perceive any of you who've been gaming more than a year to be a hostile entity as you've been exposed to the internet and 'dangerous ideas'. " - MeanGreenStompa
"Then someone mentions Infinity and everyone ignores it because no one really plays it." - nkelsch
FREEDOM!!! - d-usa |
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2014/06/12 20:41:10
Subject: War Gear Flows to Police Departments
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Revving Ravenwing Biker
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Am I the only one that though Neenah was the sound the police made, before realizing the place was actually called this?
Neenah-neenah-neenah-neenah!
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2014/06/12 20:43:24
Subject: Re:War Gear Flows to Police Departments
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Fate-Controlling Farseer
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Good luck finding ammo for it.
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2014/06/12 21:11:09
Subject: Re:War Gear Flows to Police Departments
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
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2014/06/12 21:17:42
Subject: Re:War Gear Flows to Police Departments
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5th God of Chaos! (Ho-hum)
Curb stomping in the Eye of Terror!
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Naw man... I called dibs on that. After I get these guys to make me some ammo 
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2014/06/12 21:18:01
Live Ork, Be Ork. or D'Ork!
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2014/06/12 21:18:44
Subject: War Gear Flows to Police Departments
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Hallowed Canoness
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Just gotta do your Destructive Device paperwork and those are perfectly legal. I want a 105mm Howitzer personally.
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I beg of you sarge let me lead the charge when the battle lines are drawn
Lemme at least leave a good hoof beat they'll remember loud and long
SoB, IG, SM, SW, Nec, Cus, Tau, FoW Germans, Team Yankee Marines, Battletech Clan Wolf, Mercs
DR:90-SG+M+B+I+Pw40k12+ID+++A+++/are/WD-R+++T(S)DM+ |
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2014/06/12 23:12:53
Subject: Re:War Gear Flows to Police Departments
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Proud Member of the Infidels of OIF/OEF
No longer defending the US Military or US Gov't. Just going to ""**feed into your fears**"" with Duffel Blog
Did not fight my way up on top the food chain to become a Vegan...
Warning: Stupid Allergy
Once you pull the pin, Mr. Grenade is no longer your friend
DE 6700
Harlequin 2500
RIP Muhammad Ali.
Jihadin, Scorched Earth 791. Leader of the Pork Eating Crusader. Alpha
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