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I think people will actually like these.
The 3 remaining Primarchs anyone gives a rat's furry ass about.

Magnus the Red: 525 points
Unit Type: Infantry (IC)
WS:7 BS:7 S:7 T:6 W:6 I:5 A:4 LD:10 SV:2+/4+
Special Rules: Primarch, Psyker (ML5), Psychic Limitations, Sire of the Thousand Sons, Very Bulky
Wargear: Scarab Armor, Heqa Staff
Psyker (ML5): Magnus knows all powers from the Telepathy, Pyromancy, and Divination disciplines
Psychic Limitations: Magnus may only have one Blessing on him at any time.
Sire of the Thousand Sons: Magnus grants +1 to all DTW rolls made by his controlling player. Magnus allows his controlling player to reroll 1s when attempting to set off powers.
Scarab Armor: Save above
Heqa Staff: S:+1, AP:2, Force weapon


Sanguinius: 450 points
Unit Type: Jump Infantry
WS:8 BS:6 S:6 T:6 W:6 I:6 A:6 LD:10 SV: 2+/4+
Special Rules: Furious Charge, Primarch, Divine Duelist, Sire of the Blood Angels
Wargear: The Blades Encarmine, The Spear of Telesto. The Angel's Wings
The Blades Encarmine: S:+1, AP:2, Murderous Strike, Melee, +1 A (already in profile)
The Spear of Telesto: S:9, AP:2, 40" range
The Angel's Wings: The Primarch's glorious wings count as a jump pack with an 18 inch movement instead of 12.
Divine Duelist: For every point of difference between Sangunius' WS and the enemy's he has one additional attack.
Sire of the Blood Angels: Sanguinus grants all Blood Angels units with the Deep Strike USR the ability to Deep Strike anywhere within 12 inches of him without scattering.


Leman Russ 450 points
Unit Type: Infantry (IC)
WS:8 BS:4 S:7 T:7 W:6 I:5 A:5 LD:10 SV: 2+/4++
Special Rules: Primarch, Furious Charge, Sire of the Space Wolves, The Emperor's Executioner
Wargear; Krakenmaw, Thrice Blessed Armor
Krakenmaw: Russ' personal sword. +1S, AP:2, Murderous Strike, Fleshbane
Thrice Blessed Armor: Save Above
The Emperor's Executioner: Russ has miraculous anti psyker powers. He can deny a power issuing from a model within 12 inches on a 3+. He is immune to the adverse effects of maledictions, and counts as +1S in combat with psykers
Sire of the Space Wolves: Russ grants his sons Hatred, and Preferred Enemy (CSM), and friendly units that can draw LOS to Russ immediately after winning combat gain Furious Charge for a full turn.


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And yes Magnus' ability to reroll 1s is foreshadowing.

Great, a Primarch you are forced to put with Assault Marines or solo..

Also, why does Leman Russ grant preferred enemy CSMs? This is Pre-Heresy, they should have PE: Traitors or something to signify their hatred for heretics, like the WB get PE: Loyalists.

Also Sangunius grants a horrifically overpowered Beta Strike. Put all your stuff in Deep Strike, move Sanguinius up behind LOS blocking cover with his amazing JP move, then Deep Strike a bunch of vindicators, spartans, huge tac squads etc and mess stuff up.

 BrotherOfBone wrote:
Great, a Primarch you are forced to put with Assault Marines or solo..

Also, why does Leman Russ grant preferred enemy CSMs? This is Pre-Heresy, they should have PE: Traitors or something to signify their hatred for heretics, like the WB get PE: Loyalists.

Also Sangunius grants a horrifically overpowered Beta Strike. Put all your stuff in Deep Strike, move Sanguinius up behind LOS blocking cover with his amazing JP move, then Deep Strike a bunch of vindicators, spartans, huge tac squads etc and mess stuff up.

Reserves and being forced to deep strike are different things.
There's actually a deep strike USR.
That's still to powerful though.

Nothing?
I think these are way better.

Sang is ws9/10 and probably (apart from angron) the only primarch justifiably having that stat, wounds should be droppedtto 5 as 6 is the purview of the really tough primarchs (and alpharius for some reason).

Other than that it all seems good

 Formosa wrote:
Sang is ws9/10 and probably (apart from angron) the only primarch justifiably having that stat, wounds should be droppedtto 5 as 6 is the purview of the really tough primarchs (and alpharius for some reason).

Other than that it all seems good

On the topic of wounds 5 wounds seems to only be used for balance purposes and Lorgar. Angron is a murder machine, maybe he should have 6 wounds, but the reason he only has 5 seems to be to keep him from being too hard to kill in addition to being the most powerful primarch in single combat so far. Angron can easily solo entire squads and kill most primarchs the majority of the time, his main balancing factor seems to be his crappy armour, low toughness, and low wounds.

Sanguinius v. Angron I feel should be a toss up, so I would probably make Sanguinius WS 8 (tied with Fulgrim and Horus) and 6 wounds, Angron is more of an offensive fighter (to keep the berserker archetype) with his higher WS and attacks, Sanguinius however could simply outlast him. I feel like this is honestly how a fight would go between them, Sanguinius simply has to outlast Angron and wear him down and he will eventually find an opening and defeat him, unless Angron overwhelms him first. Honestly the only thing that makes me want to give Sanguinius WS 9 is the proliferation of WS 8. I feel like primarch WS should be distributed like this
10, Nobody except maybe the Emperor, but this is on par with a literal avatar of a God of war,
9, Angron and maybe Sanguinius, the best fighters among the primarchs
8, Horus, Fulgrim, and maybe Corax and Curze, the better fighters ideally 5 max, 6 max if we include Sanguinius
7, The majority of the primarchs, particularly those not known particularly for their combat abilities, the regular dudes like Dorn, Guilliman, and Mortarion
6, The really weak (skills) primarchs, guys like Lorgar and Magnus, not necessarily weak in strength, but lacking the technique for dueling that their other brothers have

Magnus could use some way of manifesting more power and resisting perils. Psychics are pretty weak in 7th. I get the reasoning behind psychic limitations, but I think immune to invisibility would suffice.

Magnus was the head of all disciplines so not sure why you have picked those three.

He is usually depicted with a halberd rather than a heqa staff


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You've missed that russ was a latent psyker himself. He can manifest a wolf howl power, which disorientates normal enemies, but was fatal to telepaths.


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And freki and geri! ! :-)


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I like sanguinius, but divine duellist doesn't gel with him.. its more of a fulgrim thing. Sanguinius always shined through in the epic duels, against serious opponents like greater daemons. Maybe something to reflect that? He was also clearly a latent psyker of some sort, but I guess thats not necessary. Probably would go for a 3++