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Just finished a game with one of my friends today, he let me use his Greenwing army and I got to face the combination of his DW/RW. By the end of his turn 2 it was almost over, totally underestimated his forces and got tabled, I'm fine with it, don't know Dark Angels very well as I play Tyranids.

Anyway we had a few issues we couldn't quite answer ourselves and thought we would come here.

1. When using grenades in an assault, if a vehicle has not moved, its WS counts as 0. As there is no 0 on the chart do we even need to roll to hit? We are simply attaching a grenade to a standstill target. We rolled anyway, took all 1s as misses.

2. Flamers vs Marines embarked on Rhinos. We know flamers hit everything on the the targeted level of a building, in this case the one and only floor as this is covered in the book, but we couldn't find anything about Flamers being used on units embarked in a transport, admittedly we did not spend much time looking through the book for the answer.

3. Just how long exactly do Blessings from Psykers last? Specifically Fire Shield, Shroud and Invisibility, there is no time duration on the card so we agreed that it lasts until the Psyker dies.

4. Using our own custom buildings and there is no profile for building defenses of custom buildings that we could find, are we then free to assign it however we want or is there something out there we could reference too?

5. I had my Warlord mixed with a Command Squad, his shooting face, kills the entire squad, does the Warlord then have to make a Leadership check as he is the only one left from the unit?

6. Splitfire allows for Deathwing Terminators to fire upon different units during the shooting phase, when charging, are we then free to choose which we could charge as we have shot at both?

7. Continuing from 6, can we charge units that we have not shot at?

8. He didn't believe me at the time, but Blasts and other templates do not need line of sight in order to be fired correct?

9. Beam attacks. It says the beam goes through the first unit and hit everything behind it subtracting 1 Strength for each additional unit hit. How does this work for units embarked on transports. Does it count just the transport and skip the units inside or does it hit both of them as well?

10. Azrael's ability states that everything from the DA codex rolls leadership checks using his leadership, this I am assuming included enemy DA as well?

Any help you could give would be great, thank you very much!

I'm confused. You're counting vehicles as stationary as WS0, but that's a 6th edition rule. Vehicles now always have WS1 even if they're immobilised or stationary. WS0 = autohit.

But, to clarify, are you asking for 6th edition or 7th edition rules?

sonicaucie wrote:
I'm confused. You're counting vehicles as stationary as WS0, but that's a 6th edition rule. Vehicles now always have a WS even if they're immobilised or stationary. WS0 = autohit.

But, to clarify, are you asking for 6th edition or 7th edition rules?

Preferably 7th, didn't think anything changed from 6th-7th in that regard.

Turns out we ended up doing the right thing anyway. Rolled to hit as normal.

 Lobomalo wrote:

sonicaucie wrote:
I'm confused. You're counting vehicles as stationary as WS0, but that's a 6th edition rule. Vehicles now always have a WS even if they're immobilised or stationary. WS0 = autohit.

But, to clarify, are you asking for 6th edition or 7th edition rules?

Preferably 7th, didn't think anything changed from 6th-7th in that regard.

Okay, let me try and answer some of your questions then.

1. vehicles are WS1, so 3s or 4s to hit depending on your own WS.

2. Look up the "no escape" rule for flamers. You can't hit a unit inside a rhino.

3. Unless otherwise stated, they last until the start of your next psychic phase.

4. Before the game all you need to do is agree with your opponent what terrain counts as what and what parts of it are impassable. It's usually fairly obvious, but sometimes it's worth mentioning. Treat building as ruins, woods as woods, ect... look up battlefield terrain in your rulebook.

5. Yes, he still counts as being part of the unit until the end of the turn and thus must take a leadership test.

6. You must charge one of the units you shot at.

7. No.

8. They do. They must also be placed on top of a model that's in TLOS.

9. Only the transport is hit, not the unit inside.

10. Technically yes, but no one would play it that way. A necron ghost arks states that at the start of each necron movement phase, it repairs D3 warriors to a squad. Thus a necron vs necron battle would give a ghost ark 2D3 warriors per game turn instead of the normal 1D3.

Now I'm confused. With number 7, if I cannot charge a unit I have not shot at, how then can I charge a unit already engaged in close combat?

3. Very frustrating. So I would have to cast Shroud every turn to make sure I got it? Not nice

 Lobomalo wrote:
Now I'm confused. With number 7, if I cannot charge a unit I have not shot at, how then can I charge a unit already engaged in close combat?

3. Very frustrating. So I would have to cast Shroud every turn to make sure I got it? Not nice

You can charge any unit in range, but if you've shot at a unit you must charge that unit (if you wish to charge) unless you're given permission to do otherwise.

sonicaucie wrote:

 Lobomalo wrote:
Now I'm confused. With number 7, if I cannot charge a unit I have not shot at, how then can I charge a unit already engaged in close combat?

3. Very frustrating. So I would have to cast Shroud every turn to make sure I got it? Not nice

You can charge any unit in range, but if you've shot at a unit you must charge that unit (if you wish to charge) unless you're given permission to do otherwise.

So if I haven't shot, I can assault any unit within range?

 Lobomalo wrote:

sonicaucie wrote:

 Lobomalo wrote:
Now I'm confused. With number 7, if I cannot charge a unit I have not shot at, how then can I charge a unit already engaged in close combat?

3. Very frustrating. So I would have to cast Shroud every turn to make sure I got it? Not nice

You can charge any unit in range, but if you've shot at a unit you must charge that unit (if you wish to charge) unless you're given permission to do otherwise.

So if I haven't shot, I can assault any unit within range?

Yes.

sonicaucie wrote:

 Lobomalo wrote:
So if I haven't shot, I can assault any unit within range?

Yes.

Otherwise, Genestealers / Hormagaunts would be a bit useless...

I think the confusion was that you said for number 7 "continuing from 6", so people assumed you were still on the same example (DW shoot at targets A and B, but you wanted to charge C).

sonicaucie wrote:

 Lobomalo wrote:
Now I'm confused. With number 7, if I cannot charge a unit I have not shot at, how then can I charge a unit already engaged in close combat?

3. Very frustrating. So I would have to cast Shroud every turn to make sure I got it? Not nice

You can charge any unit in range, but if you've shot at a unit you must charge that unit (if you wish to charge) unless you're given permission to do otherwise.

I just read through the assault phase rules. Does this mean that even if I managed to destroy the unit by shooting, I cannot assaut another unit even though the original target unit is off the board?

 milkboy wrote:

sonicaucie wrote:

 Lobomalo wrote:
Now I'm confused. With number 7, if I cannot charge a unit I have not shot at, how then can I charge a unit already engaged in close combat?

3. Very frustrating. So I would have to cast Shroud every turn to make sure I got it? Not nice

You can charge any unit in range, but if you've shot at a unit you must charge that unit (if you wish to charge) unless you're given permission to do otherwise.

I just read through the assault phase rules. Does this mean that even if I managed to destroy the unit by shooting, I cannot assaut another unit even though the original target unit is off the board?

That is correct,with 1 caveat: If the destroyed unit was a transport, you may charge the now disembarked contents of that transport.

Azreal is fearless so it's a moot point?

*edit- I thought someone mentioned Azreal, note that any warlord except the Chaplain is fearless.

Hah, I never knew that. Go figure the warrior with the strongest faith in the army is a scaredy cat.

I highly doubt the Chaplain isn't fearless, though they tend to be through another special rule (Zealot?) that gives them Hatred too

Does zealot give fearless? I was going based on the chaplain not having Inner Circle which grants fearless. I don't have my codex on hand.

sonicaucie wrote:
I'm confused. You're counting vehicles as stationary as WS0, but that's a 6th edition rule. Vehicles now always have WS1 even if they're immobilised or stationary. WS0 = autohit.

Immobilised non-Walker vehicles are WS0.