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I've looked about 10 pages back and didn't see a thread with this topic.

I want to play a Daemons list for 7th, but to me it seems like they auto-lose.

Now I know this can't be correct but since they have the Deep Strike rule, and must start in Deep Strike, coming in starting on turn 2 how do they not lose?

Basically, I'm after a paragraph, or page that can give me some clarity. Thanks in Advance.

 FenrisianStuart21 wrote:
I've looked about 10 pages back and didn't see a thread with this topic.

I want to play a Daemons list for 7th, but to me it seems like they auto-lose.

Now I know this can't be correct but since they have the Deep Strike rule, and must start in Deep Strike, coming in starting on turn 2 how do they not lose?

Basically, I'm after a paragraph, or page that can give me some clarity. Thanks in Advance.

(Emphasis mine).

Where does it say this? (The underlined) I can not find anything in the Daemons codex that says they must start in reserve,

He's using an old rule , like a really old rule. This is not the case anymore daemons do not start in reserve and have to deepstrike /

 FenrisianStuart21 wrote:
I've looked about 10 pages back and didn't see a thread with this topic.

I want to play a Daemons list for 7th, but to me it seems like they auto-lose.

Now I know this can't be correct but since they have the Deep Strike rule, and must start in Deep Strike, coming in starting on turn 2 how do they not lose?

Basically, I'm after a paragraph, or page that can give me some clarity. Thanks in Advance.

You ARE using an old codex, as Hollisman said (and as DeathReaper did not).

If you'd like to get up to date with all the cool kids, get a new Daemon book! It came out in 2013 (about a year and a half ago).

If your opponent is fine with you using an old book (and if you're ok with a lot of house rules to make it work with 7e), then go ahead and do so.
If you choose to go that route, then let me explain:
Daemons must split their army units into two waves. Pick a Preferred Wave and a Secondary Wave. On the start of your first turn (not Game Turn, but YOUR turn), roll a D6. On a 3+, your preferred wave Deep Strikes in using Deep Strike rules; also, the rest of your units get reserve rolls as normal, and also Deep Strike in when they arrive. If you roll a 2-, then the vice versa occurs: the gods are not happy with your strategy, and your Secondary Wave comes in T1, with the Preferred Wave units getting normal reserve rolls.
Note that a player only loses if he has no models at the end of a Game Turn: since you'll have models on the table at the end of T1 (unless you scatter and Mishap VERY poorly), then you won't lose.

Hope that helps. Remember to ask permission from your opponent to use an outdated, defunct, and very powerful old rulebook.

I'm using the current rulebook and codex.

 FenrisianStuart21 wrote:
I'm using the current rulebook and codex.

Where in the Chaos Daemon rulebook does it say that the daemons have to start in reserves and Deep Strike into play?

I have scoured the whole book and can not find where it says that. (Chaos Daemon codex cover spoilered below)

 FenrisianStuart21 wrote:
I'm using the current rulebook and codex.

Then, quite frankly, you have imagined the rule that they MUST start in DS. No such rule exists in the 2013, 6th edition codex. I g'tee it.

DS is optional. Prior to the 2013 book they were required to start in DS reserve, but then DS half their army in on turn 1.

They only auto lose if you choose to have them all DS in. I'd suggest not doing so.

I wished they would have kept that but made it optional :(. I always liked Daemonic Assault

Hollismason wrote:
I wished they would have kept that but made it optional :(. I always liked Daemonic Assault

It would make a nice Detachment or Formation in fairness.

I'm hoping it is a detachment or a formation we get. I always liked it.