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Me and my brother plan to play here soon, and i am going to be ordering my new units here soon and want a good list to beat his army!

HQ -

Ragnar Blackmane (attached to Wolf Guard Pack) - 240 points

Elite -

Wolf Guard Pack - 148 points

1 Marked Wolf Guard with Storm bolter and power weapon - 46
2 Wolf Guard with Storm bolters and power weapons - 62 points
Razorback - 40 points

Wolf Guard Pack - 133 points

1 Marked Wolf Guard with Storm bolter, power weapon and jump pack (attached to Sky Claw pack) - 71 points
2 Wolf Guard with Storm bolters and power weapons (each attached to a Blood Claw pack) - 62 points

Troops -

Blood Claw Pack - 210 points

7 Blood Claws - 105 points
1 Blood Claw with Plasma Gun - 25 points
1 Blood Claw with Power Weapon and Plasma pistol - 45 points
Rhino Transport - 35 points

Blood Claw Pack - 220 points

7 Blood Claws - 105 points
1 Blood Claw with Plasma Gun - 25 points
1 Blood Claw with Power Fist and Plasma Pistol - 55 points
Rhino Transport - 35 points

Fast Attack -

SkyClaw Assault Pack - 187 points

7 Skyclaws - 126 points
1 Skyclaw with Melta - 28 points
1 Skyclaw with Power Weapon - 33 points

Heavy Support -

Long Fangs pack - 165 points

1 Squad Leader - 15 points
2 Long Fangs with Heavy Bolter - 40 points
2 Long Fangs with Plasma Cannon - 70 points
Razorback - 40 points

Long Fangs Pack - 185

1 Squad Leader - 15 points
2 Long Fangs with Lascannons - 80 points
2 Long Fangs with Missle Launchers - 50 points
Razorback - 40 points


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I , as it stands, have:

Hq: flyrant - TL Devour

Elite:
2 Zoanthrope
1 Lictor

Troop:
52 termagants
40 hormagaunt
6 genestealer w/ broodlord
3 warrior- deathspitter , 2 devourer
Fast-attack:
10 gargoyle

Heavy:
1 dakkafex (am gonna order another)
1 biovore

Biovores are good, maybe get 2 more to make a full brood.
getting a exocrine woould get mean you would be able to do the artillery node dataslate, its a good one
Dakkafexen are good too.
Flyrants are your star pupill. get another one if you can

beardman3000 wrote:
Me and my brother plan to play here soon, and i am going to be ordering my new units here soon and want a good list to beat his army!

HQ -

Ragnar Blackmane (attached to Wolf Guard Pack) - 240 points

Elite -

Wolf Guard Pack - 148 points

1 Marked Wolf Guard with Storm bolter and power weapon - 46
2 Wolf Guard with Storm bolters and power weapons - 62 points
Razorback - 40 points

Wolf Guard Pack - 133 points

1 Marked Wolf Guard with Storm bolter, power weapon and jump pack (attached to Sky Claw pack) - 71 points
2 Wolf Guard with Storm bolters and power weapons (each attached to a Blood Claw pack) - 62 points

Troops -

Blood Claw Pack - 210 points

7 Blood Claws - 105 points
1 Blood Claw with Plasma Gun - 25 points
1 Blood Claw with Power Weapon and Plasma pistol - 45 points
Rhino Transport - 35 points

Blood Claw Pack - 220 points

7 Blood Claws - 105 points
1 Blood Claw with Plasma Gun - 25 points
1 Blood Claw with Power Fist and Plasma Pistol - 55 points
Rhino Transport - 35 points

Fast Attack -

SkyClaw Assault Pack - 187 points

7 Skyclaws - 126 points
1 Skyclaw with Melta - 28 points
1 Skyclaw with Power Weapon - 33 points

Heavy Support -

Long Fangs pack - 165 points

1 Squad Leader - 15 points
2 Long Fangs with Heavy Bolter - 40 points
2 Long Fangs with Plasma Cannon - 70 points
Razorback - 40 points

Long Fangs Pack - 185

1 Squad Leader - 15 points
2 Long Fangs with Lascannons - 80 points
2 Long Fangs with Missle Launchers - 50 points
Razorback - 40 points


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I , as it stands, have:

Hq: flyrant - TL Devour

Elite:
2 Zoanthrope
1 Lictor

Troop:
52 termagants
40 hormagaunt
6 genestealer w/ broodlord
3 warrior- deathspitter , 2 devourer
Fast-attack:
10 gargoyle

Heavy:
1 dakkafex (am gonna order another)
1 biovore

It looks like you could build a decent Living Artillery list with a few purchases. (Two Biovores, an Exocrene, a box of Warriors (build two cannons, 1 strangle, 1 Venom for 2 Broods) a second Dakkafex will never be a bad choice. You'll be wanting a second Winged Tyrant some day also...

I'll try to whip up a list and post it later today...


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This is using what you have , with a few add ins...and based on what you'll fight (marines, light on vehicles)

HQ: Winged Dakka'rant, Hive (Shred bugs) 240

Elite: Zoey Brood: x2 100
Elite: Lictor 50

Troops: Genstealers, x6, Broodlord 144
Troops: Termigants, x20 80
Troops: Termigants, x20 80
Troops: Hormagaunts, x15 75
Troops: Warrior Brood: x3, Deathspitters x2, Strangle Cannon

Living Artillery: 390
Warrior Brood: x3, Venom Cannon 100
Biovore Brood: x3 120
Exocrene 170

That should total 1269, so you have plenty of room for some more Big Bugs...I'd toss in two Mawlocs, and lose a Zoey (or the Lictor) for 1499 ish... ( you can add in your Dakkafex, and find 10 points for one Mawloc, or find 20 and add in Two Dakkafexen. )

Just get a second box of Warriors, and build two Cannon Warriors, and one Deathspitter Warrior, and you can get the rwo Broods above. You'll also need 2 Biovores, and an Exocrene. the rest depends on what you like.

A second Tyrant would also be a welcome addition. Lots of options.

Sounds good was thinking of :
2 more Biovres, 1-2 Mawlocks, and warriors anyways ... should i make one of the warriors a prime?

How do you feel about 2-6 Raveners with Red Terror?

or 2 mawlocs and trygon?

beardman3000 wrote:
Sounds good was thinking of :
2 more Biovres, 1-2 Mawlocks, and warriors anyways ... should i make one of the warriors a prime?

How do you feel about 2-6 Raveners with Red Terror?

or 2 mawlocs and trygon?

A Warrior Prime is a very poor investment. I used to use Two, way back in the day...but now? Not a good use of points. A Ravener Brood, can be a good choice. Not my style, but many seem to like them. I like Wormey, but I don't think it would be a good fit for your list as is, maybe at higher point levels though...If you get a chance let us know how your force does, I'd like to know.

So this is the list I have...

HQ:
Flyrant- TL DEV w/ Hive Commander 260

Elite :
2 Zoanthrope - 110
1 venomthrope 55

Troops:
20 termagaunts 100
20 termagaunts 100
20 hormagaunts w/ toxin sacks and adrenal glands- 220 (Genestealers?)
Warrior x3, w/ Deathspitters x2 stranglecannon - 130

Fast Attack-
10 Gargoyle as shield - 70? or get rid of?

Heavy-
2 Dakkafex - 300
3 Biovore - 135


Now I am guessing maybe get rid of a dakka, maybe gargoyles as well and adding a mawlock and my genestealers? Should I keep my Venomthrope?

That looks like a lot better list. A couple of suggestions though:
1) Drop either the TS or the AG from the horms. They are too expensive to run both, since they die to everything.

2) If you have more gargoyles, I would run a brood of 20. If you don't, maybe drop them for something else. A mawlock would be a good addition (using the points from the horms as well).

 Freytag93 wrote:
That looks like a lot better list. A couple of suggestions though:
1) Drop either the TS or the AG from the horms. They are too expensive to run both, since they die to everything.

2) If you have more gargoyles, I would run a brood of 20. If you don't, maybe drop them for something else. A mawlock would be a good addition (using the points from the horms as well).

I am going to get rid of the toxin sacks and the gargoyles... Then I believe I am going to get 2 mawlocks. OR Should I get 1 Trygon, then use he 80 points on something else? OR should I get neither and get an Exocrine, then do the Living Artillery formation, then use the 110 points for something else?

beardman3000 wrote:

 Freytag93 wrote:
That looks like a lot better list. A couple of suggestions though:
1) Drop either the TS or the AG from the horms. They are too expensive to run both, since they die to everything.

2) If you have more gargoyles, I would run a brood of 20. If you don't, maybe drop them for something else. A mawlock would be a good addition (using the points from the horms as well).

I am going to get rid of the toxin sacks and the gargoyles... Then I believe I am going to get 2 mawlocks. OR Should I get 1 Trygon, then use he 80 points on something else? OR should I get neither and get an Exocrine, then do the Living Artillery formation, then use the 110 points for something else?

Twin Mawlocs rules. But Living Artillery is a very strong list. You likely can run one Mawloc, and the Living Artillery, so it's not all bad. A basic "rule" for building Nids is "Quanity is a form of Quality" You'll almost always be better off if you pass on upgrades, and buy more bodies.

HQ:
Flyrant- TL DEV w/ Hive Commander 260

Elite :
2 Zoanthrope - 110
1 venomthrope 55

Troops:
20 termagaunts 100
20 termagaunts 100
20 hormagaunts - 120
Warrior x3, w/ Deathspitters x2 stranglecannon - 130

Heavy-
1 Dakkafex - 150
3 Biovore - 135
1 Exocrine - 170
1 Mawlock - 140

I will be running Living Artillery with this... now I have 30 points left.. Should I add more Horms, Terms, upgrades, what?

beardman3000 wrote:
HQ:
Flyrant- TL DEV w/ Hive Commander 260

Elite :
2 Zoanthrope - 110
1 venomthrope 55

Troops:
20 termagaunts 100
20 termagaunts 100
20 hormagaunts - 120
Warrior x3, w/ Deathspitters x2 stranglecannon - 130

Heavy-
1 Dakkafex - 150
3 Biovore - 135
1 Exocrine - 170
1 Mawlock - 140

I will be running Living Artillery with this... now I have 30 points left.. Should I add more Horms, Terms, upgrades, what?

Looks nice, but you may want to check your math...Venos run 45 per, not 55?( 20 Termigants runs 80 by my reaconing )( check 'em all... ) I would trim some Hormies, and get a second Veno myself...the key to beating this list is shooting the Biovores, so you need a Veno to protect them, a second Veno can shepperd the assault. Or you can Double the Veno Brood for more durability.

If you have not glued yet, Living Artillery gives "pinning" to blasts by special rule, so the Warrior Brood attached should use a Venom Cannon for maximum efficiency.

Do you have a Thorax Hive on the Tyrant? If not, that is the best 10 points you'll ever spend. (OK...maybe overstated, but only Maybe. )

is it? I had found point costs for 7th edition, or maybe they were wrong? oh well! looks like i need to go and buy the codex now !

anyway I can get a full list of the point costs, or, if you can and are willing, do it for me as I will not be able to do it until about friday/saturday (New York time)

But I believe I will have 1 venomthrope with the biovores and 1 with the troops. and I have 4 Warriors: 2 vennom cannon, 1 death Spitter, and 1 Stranglecannon

I also will upgrade my Flyrant with that :3

I'd look to build like this...


HQ: Winged Dakka'rant, Thorax Hive 240

Elite: Zoey Brood: x2 100
Elite: Veno Brood: x2 90 (you can split this into two, if you wish)

Troops: Termigants, x20 80
Troops: Termigants, x20 80
Troops: Hormagaunts, x15 75
Troops: Hormagaunts, x15 75
Troops: Warrior Brood, x3, x2 Deathspitters,Strangle Cannon 110

Heavy: Dakkafex 150
Heavy: Mawloc 140

Total cost: 1140

Formation: Living Artillery: 400

Warrior Brood: x3, X2 Deathspitters, Venom Cannon 110
Biovore Brood, x3 120
Exocrene 170

Total cost 1540, trim 40 points and you're golden, the simplest thing is drop a 'Thrope...or you can trim off 8 Hormies (leaving 1x 10, and 1 x12) there is no Hive Commander on this build though, but an Artillery list tends to force movement from the enemy, rather than use movement off a flank...If you lose one of the Heavys, you have 100 to 110 to spend....I think I would trim one Brood of Hormies, and have 35 left for upgrades...If you build the Venon Warrior Brood without Deathspitters, that'll save 10 points, etc...

Alright... Tha looks perfect :3..
I will drop the Hormies, Probably get more Warriors for the Venomcannons, all of them yes?
Then I will use the 45 points maybe upgrade my Carnifex or Mawlock for better save/more armor. maybe grab another veno? (probably not tho)... Again thankyou so much Pinecone

beardman3000 wrote:
Alright... Tha looks perfect :3..
I will drop the Hormies, Probably get more Warriors for the Venomcannons, all of them yes?
Then I will use the 45 points maybe upgrade my Carnifex or Mawlock for better save/more armor. maybe grab another veno? (probably not tho)... Again thankyou so much Pinecone

De nada, If you can find the figs, a extra Veno will do very well vs Marines, vs Tau...not so much.