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If thats true (everything points to that being pretty acceptable), is there anything in there that says a rokkit pack can't fit on a mega-armored warboss?

Nope, despite it making total and complete sense considering space marine captains have access to the entire space marine arsenal minus the big heavy guns that warbosses would too.

I really wanted to run a warboss with rokkit packs with a blob of stormboyz. Considering stormboyz can reach 30man strong now, i even more want to do that. Sigh, disappointment

Least the bike got cheaper.

It says the warboss can take things from the orky Know-wots table...and it says to me in my book that a rokkit pack is in the orky Know-wots table

Everything listed under Orky Know-wots table for me.

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Bosspole, Cybork Body, Dok's Tools, Gitfindas, Mek's Tools, Rokkit Pack, Stikkbombs, Tankbusta bombs, Waaagh banner, Warbike.


Maybe my Limited Edition codex is really outta wack.

Maybe my codex is a misprint.

 Vineheart01 wrote:
Nope, despite it making total and complete sense considering space marine captains have access to the entire space marine arsenal minus the big heavy guns that warbosses would too.

I really wanted to run a warboss with rokkit packs with a blob of stormboyz. Considering stormboyz can reach 30man strong now, i even more want to do that. Sigh, disappointment

Least the bike got cheaper.

You'll love Zagstruk's formation in the Ghazghkull book then...
Zagstruk+3 mobs of Stormboyz with no model cap. That can all be formed into one mass o' deep strike...

Zomnivore is correct though. It says in there that a Warboss can take items from the "Orky Know-Wots table"...however the Orky Know-Wots table is on page 53. The items listed there are Bosspole, Cybork Body, Gitfinda, and Warbike.

The other items are listed under "Orky Know-Wots", similar to how Bomb Squigs are in the Runts & Squig descriptions but not available on the table.

Ahh thats odd, in the back it includes it in a cheat sheet, but on page 53, it excludes everything but bosspole, cybork, gitfinda, warbike.

Maybe the cheat sheet is badly formatted.

I think it is simply because while those items are restricted, they don't fall into the Weapons or Armour categories.

Again, Bomb Squigs are in the Squigs & Runts description as are Grot Orderlies and Grot Oilers--but they cannot be taken by anyone beyond Tankbusters, Pain Boyz, and Meks(respectively).

Nah its in that cheatsheet because its the same classification as a bike or any other gear - its a special wargear that modifies how the unit behaves in some way, be it BS, FNP, Movement, etc.

It doesnt say points there, but where it does say points rokkit packs are excluded which sucks ass.

Also no i dont like that stormboy formation. The sheer fact that they have to deepstrike makes me not like it. Unless i missed something, Zagstruk no longer assaults from deepstrike and neither does this formation. That is 90+1 models assuming none of them mishapped (oh, they will with a footprint like that) that are sitting there bunched up waiting for pi plating goodness to clear them off the board.
Useless.

Only reason i deepstrike with my Tau is because THEY can shoot and kill things dead via shooting. Stormboyz only have a slugga.....even if im in range of something they can even hurt with a slugga odds are i wont do much damage.

Considering the fluff of storm boyz, no Warboss would be caught using a rokkit pack though, unless he's completely mad like Zagstrukk. Love the fluff bit where chases some eldar into the webway because they dared to be faster than him, just to return a couple of month later to take his bommer back from some lootaz.

There's nothing preventing a Warboss taking a rokkit pack. It would have to be all alone to make it do the special rokkit pack effect though. Seems like an alright idea. I like the idea of a Warboss with an oversized rocket strapped to its back.

 beigeknight wrote:
There's nothing preventing a Warboss taking a rokkit pack. It would have to be all alone to make it do the special rokkit pack effect though. Seems like an alright idea. I like the idea of a Warboss with an oversized rocket strapped to its back.

Other than it's not able to be chosen in the Orky Know-Wots table.


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 Vineheart01 wrote:

Also no i dont like that stormboy formation. The sheer fact that they have to deepstrike makes me not like it. Unless i missed something, Zagstruk no longer assaults from deepstrike and neither does this formation. That is 90+1 models assuming none of them mishapped (oh, they will with a footprint like that) that are sitting there bunched up waiting for pi plating goodness to clear them off the board.
Useless.

Just so you know?
You don't have to deploy them all as one big massed unit. The only requirement is that they all Deep Strike and begin in Reserves. They "only" scatter D6 inches as well.
If you're going the 91 model formation, then deploy them as three separate units with one unit having Zagstruk.
Otherwise you can mass them up in a way you feel comfortable with Deep Striking. The 91 model one certainly is going to be risky, but my God....if you can pull it off on a large enough table and what have you? Nasty.

Model a Warboss with a rokkit pack, give him a bike on your army list. Boom, fast Warboss who can keep up with stormboyz.

Thats still 3 30man blobs that cannot assault, are extremely unlikely to shoot something dead with 12" 1 shot S4 Ap6 guns, and ripe for flamers/other blasts since they have 0 cover.

The only reason i ever deepstriked my stormboyz before was because of Zagstruk being able to charge to mitigate their vulnerability for a turn. That got taken away.

 Vineheart01 wrote:
Thats still 3 30man blobs that cannot assault, are extremely unlikely to shoot something dead with 12" 1 shot S4 Ap6 guns, and ripe for flamers/other blasts since they have 0 cover.

The only reason i ever deepstriked my stormboyz before was because of Zagstruk being able to charge to mitigate their vulnerability for a turn. That got taken away.

To be fair, Zagstruk also has the "Bellowing Tyrant" Warlord trait--meaning that all friendly Ork units within 12" of him reroll failed Morale checks and Pinning tests. So while they're vulnerable--you're not necessarily going to be making Mob Rule checks right away. Add in the fact that the Boss Nob can have a Bosspole meaning that even if you fail the Pinning/Morale checks and need to take that Mob Rule test? You can choose to reroll anything other than Breaking Heads(meaning you can reroll a Squabble as I'm not sure why you might want to reroll 'Born to Fight').

you can run a warboss with rokkit pack,

but you have to take it as zagstruk,

costs 5 pts more then normal warboss, slightly different stats, but comes with what is arguably the best warlord trait with rerolsl to LD.

very much worth it in my opinion.

 easysauce wrote:
you can run a warboss with rokkit pack,

but you have to take it as zagstruk,

costs 5 pts more then normal warboss, slightly different stats, but comes with what is arguably the best warlord trait with rerolsl to LD.

very much worth it in my opinion.

He's alright in low points games IMO, but if you take as the Warlord you're really missing out on having the WAAAGH! rule from the Warboss.

 herpguy wrote:
Model a Warboss with a rokkit pack, give him a bike on your army list. Boom, fast Warboss who can keep up with stormboyz.

This. Pose him horizontally, rocketing forward, so that it makes sense to use a bike base. Give him big shootas underslung on his arms to represent the Dakkagun. This sounds like a fantastic conversion opportunity.

As above but make it a looted battlesuit, I'm gonna have to do this!!

 Formosa wrote:
As above but make it a looted battlesuit, I'm gonna have to do this!!

I have some of these that I always ran as MegaNobs, great idea!

 Bludbaff wrote:

 herpguy wrote:
Model a Warboss with a rokkit pack, give him a bike on your army list. Boom, fast Warboss who can keep up with stormboyz.

This. Pose him horizontally, rocketing forward, so that it makes sense to use a bike base. Give him big shootas underslung on his arms to represent the Dakkagun. This sounds like a fantastic conversion opportunity.

Perhaps a boss version of IronDog's Vommit Kommitz.




http://www.irondogstudios.com/images/vommitkommitz/mek_vommit.html

If you just want to deepstrike a single mob (3x5=15) of stormboyz with safer DS rule, actually this formation is quite fine.

 herpguy wrote:
Model a Warboss with a rokkit pack, give him a bike on your army list. Boom, fast Warboss who can keep up with stormboyz.

Exactly right, beat me to it. Adds a T and a neat gun.

I like this idea actually

 herpguy wrote:
Model a Warboss with a rokkit pack on roller skates, give him a bike on your army list. Boom, fast Warboss who can keep up with stormboyz.

Good work around, but with this fix it now makes more orky 'sense'.

When you get to roller skates... I gotta go with choppas strapped to bottoms of boots instead, I mean hockey is at least orky from the get go.