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Made in sg
Gavin Thorpe





The Adeptus Mechanicus has some pretty ridiculous beliefs; despite the fact that they are engineers, they believe in machine spirits and gods over physics and reason.

Techmarines, especially the fanatical Iron Fathers, are said to care for their fleet of vehicles like a chaplain tends to his congregation. How absurd.

So for a long time, I believed that the Cult Mechanicus was just an amusing joke from GW and that no human would ever follow such nonsense.


Until today. I saw this video from My Strange Addiction.




What a nutjob!

I only hope that his kind will not survive into the future and become the techpriests we are all familiar with.
   
Made in us
Ancient Venerable Dark Angels Dreadnought





Uh.

You do know that Machine Spirits are real in W40K, and not some crazy belief by the Admech? And that the AI's have to be cared for unless you want a temperamental tank to decide to stop working one day?

“There is only one good, knowledge, and one evil, ignorance.”
 
   
Made in sg
Gavin Thorpe





 Wyzilla wrote:
Uh.

You do know that Machine Spirits are real in W40K, and not some crazy belief by the Admech? And that the AI's have to be cared for unless you want a temperamental tank to decide to stop working one day?


Yeah I know. But it's more like Battle A.I.. Why would ancient humans build crankiness into a tank? The admech would've figured that out sooner but unfortunately it has become filled with objectophiles like Nathaniel. Who spend time trying to caress and appease the machine spirit.
   
Made in us
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Maximus Bitch wrote:
 Wyzilla wrote:
Uh.

You do know that Machine Spirits are real in W40K, and not some crazy belief by the Admech? And that the AI's have to be cared for unless you want a temperamental tank to decide to stop working one day?


Yeah I know. But it's more like Battle A.I.. Why would ancient humans build crankiness into a tank? The admech would've figured that out sooner but unfortunately it has become filled with objectophiles like Nathaniel. Who spend time trying to caress and appease the machine spirit.


No. We've seen coversations with Machine Spirits several times. They can be so cranky and temperamental that it risks their own destruction.

“There is only one good, knowledge, and one evil, ignorance.”
 
   
Made in us
Powerful Phoenix Lord





Buffalo, NY

 Wyzilla wrote:
Uh.

You do know that Machine Spirits are real in W40K, and not some crazy belief by the Admech? And that the AI's have to be cared for unless you want a temperamental tank to decide to stop working one day?


Are you kidding? Occasionally I am forced to pray to the Machine God at my work just to get things to function.

Greebo had spent an irritating two minutes in that box. Technically, a cat locked in a box may be alive or it may be dead. You never know until you look. In fact, the mere act of opening the box will determine the state of the cat, although in this case there were three determinate states the cat could be in: these being Alive, Dead, and Bloody Furious.
Orks always ride in single file to hide their strength and numbers.
Gozer the Gozerian, Gozer the Destructor, Volguus Zildrohar, Gozer the Traveler, and Lord of the Sebouillia 
   
Made in us
Ancient Venerable Dark Angels Dreadnought





 Happyjew wrote:
 Wyzilla wrote:
Uh.

You do know that Machine Spirits are real in W40K, and not some crazy belief by the Admech? And that the AI's have to be cared for unless you want a temperamental tank to decide to stop working one day?


Are you kidding? Occasionally I am forced to pray to the Machine God at my work just to get things to function.


I personally just punch hardy machines that refuse to work until they do. If it worked for the Millennium Falcon, it'll work for my TV.

“There is only one good, knowledge, and one evil, ignorance.”
 
   
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 Happyjew wrote:
 Wyzilla wrote:
Uh.

You do know that Machine Spirits are real in W40K, and not some crazy belief by the Admech? And that the AI's have to be cared for unless you want a temperamental tank to decide to stop working one day?


Are you kidding? Occasionally I am forced to pray to the Machine God at my work just to get things to function.


THIS!! If IT guys/girls are today's techpriests then I'm a only a simple Catachan with a tank out eight the boys to do a job.... And if my big toys don't want to dig dirt today then your damn right ill attempt a ritualistic platitude or two if that will please the machine spirit long enough to get a techpriests who knows the rotes.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
It's a dark secret that all construction/mining crews talk to their babies.. I mean machines..

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2014/07/06 21:53:54


"So.. If she weighs as much as a duck..." Inquisitor Monty 
   
Made in us
Powerful Phoenix Lord





Buffalo, NY

 Inquisitor Bob wrote:
 Happyjew wrote:
 Wyzilla wrote:
Uh.

You do know that Machine Spirits are real in W40K, and not some crazy belief by the Admech? And that the AI's have to be cared for unless you want a temperamental tank to decide to stop working one day?


Are you kidding? Occasionally I am forced to pray to the Machine God at my work just to get things to function.


THIS!! If IT guys/girls are today's techpriests then I'm a only a simple Catachan with a tank out eight the boys to do a job.... And if my big toys don't want to dig dirt today then your damn right ill attempt a ritualistic platitude or two if that will please the machine spirit long enough to get a techpriests who knows the rotes.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
It's a dark secret that all construction/mining crews talk to their babies.. I mean machines..


I work in a bakery. However, true story.

Back when I worked in the Engineering Room (well Machinery Room since it was a nuke carrier) in the Navy, we had little toy army men hidden everywhere. The reasoning was simple. Broken quipment is caused by gremlins. Army men kill gremlins. No gremlins, no problems. Of course the army men have to be well hidden otherwise the gremlins can kill them (think Catachans verse Genestealers). As such the army men had to be well hidden. The other Machinery Room did the same thing. When their head guy got replaced, the nwe guy removed every last army man. Everything started breaking. Meanwhile, on my side of things we had a few hundred gallons of water pour onto a fuse box, without the slightest incident. Somebody else screwed up procedure and caused a massive lube oil leak, nothing.

Greebo had spent an irritating two minutes in that box. Technically, a cat locked in a box may be alive or it may be dead. You never know until you look. In fact, the mere act of opening the box will determine the state of the cat, although in this case there were three determinate states the cat could be in: these being Alive, Dead, and Bloody Furious.
Orks always ride in single file to hide their strength and numbers.
Gozer the Gozerian, Gozer the Destructor, Volguus Zildrohar, Gozer the Traveler, and Lord of the Sebouillia 
   
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VA

I am a real life TechMarine, i pray every day to the machine spirit that this 30+ year old ship i work on stays pusing ahead...


Automatically Appended Next Post:
 Happyjew wrote:
 Inquisitor Bob wrote:
 Happyjew wrote:
 Wyzilla wrote:
Uh.

You do know that Machine Spirits are real in W40K, and not some crazy belief by the Admech? And that the AI's have to be cared for unless you want a temperamental tank to decide to stop working one day?


Are you kidding? Occasionally I am forced to pray to the Machine God at my work just to get things to function.


THIS!! If IT guys/girls are today's techpriests then I'm a only a simple Catachan with a tank out eight the boys to do a job.... And if my big toys don't want to dig dirt today then your damn right ill attempt a ritualistic platitude or two if that will please the machine spirit long enough to get a techpriests who knows the rotes.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
It's a dark secret that all construction/mining crews talk to their babies.. I mean machines..


I work in a bakery. However, true story.

Back when I worked in the Engineering Room (well Machinery Room since it was a nuke carrier) in the Navy, we had little toy army men hidden everywhere. The reasoning was simple. Broken quipment is caused by gremlins. Army men kill gremlins. No gremlins, no problems. Of course the army men have to be well hidden otherwise the gremlins can kill them (think Catachans verse Genestealers). As such the army men had to be well hidden. The other Machinery Room did the same thing. When their head guy got replaced, the nwe guy removed every last army man. Everything started breaking. Meanwhile, on my side of things we had a few hundred gallons of water pour onto a fuse box, without the slightest incident. Somebody else screwed up procedure and caused a massive lube oil leak, nothing.


Thats a great idea HappyJew, ill have to give that a try haha...

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2014/07/06 22:09:51


 
   
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The Last Chancer Who Survived




United Kingdom

 Wyzilla wrote:
Maximus Bitch wrote:
 Wyzilla wrote:
Uh.

You do know that Machine Spirits are real in W40K, and not some crazy belief by the Admech? And that the AI's have to be cared for unless you want a temperamental tank to decide to stop working one day?


Yeah I know. But it's more like Battle A.I.. Why would ancient humans build crankiness into a tank? The admech would've figured that out sooner but unfortunately it has become filled with objectophiles like Nathaniel. Who spend time trying to caress and appease the machine spirit.


No. We've seen coversations with Machine Spirits several times. They can be so cranky and temperamental that it risks their own destruction.

They're angry and temperamental because many of these spirits were humans. They were cybermanned into these machines because the AdMech needed an AI program, but the Emperor banned machines that can think. So they attached machines to buggered human brains.
   
Made in au
Imperial Agent Provocateur




Coming Soon - to a Coven near you

 Selym wrote:
 Wyzilla wrote:
Maximus Bitch wrote:
 Wyzilla wrote:
Uh.

You do know that Machine Spirits are real in W40K, and not some crazy belief by the Admech? And that the AI's have to be cared for unless you want a temperamental tank to decide to stop working one day?


Yeah I know. But it's more like Battle A.I.. Why would ancient humans build crankiness into a tank? The admech would've figured that out sooner but unfortunately it has become filled with objectophiles like Nathaniel. Who spend time trying to caress and appease the machine spirit.


No. We've seen coversations with Machine Spirits several times. They can be so cranky and temperamental that it risks their own destruction.

They're angry and temperamental because many of these spirits were humans. They were cybermanned into these machines because the AdMech needed an AI program, but the Emperor banned machines that can think. So they attached machines to buggered human brains.


Um little bit true-ish.. The whole individual AI thing was banned because of a robot revolution well before the dark age.. Called Iron Age or something.. After that "AI" was to be very specific in its direction "only knew what it had to" and was to be certified before use.. In later ages past he dark-ages priests begin to think of each AI or machine spirit as a piece of the whole.. Or machine god.. Later the Emporer rocked up and the religion was rocked by a new concept of the omnisiah..

"So.. If she weighs as much as a duck..." Inquisitor Monty 
   
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Seattle

The War with the Iron Men was the death-knell for AI research and production in the Imperium looooooonng before the Emperor made his appearance.

It drove humanity to the brink of extinction.

It is best to be a pessimist. You are usually right and, when you're wrong, you're pleasantly surprised. 
   
Made in gb
Regular Dakkanaut





Physics and reason? Birch please. My car only gets me to work and back because it's held together by hopes and dreams.

Physics and reason...
   
Made in us
Legendary Master of the Chapter






 Happyjew wrote:

Are you kidding? Occasionally I am forced to pray to the Machine God at my work just to get things to function.


I pray to them all the time when i whip out the old SNES or N64

 Unit1126PLL wrote:
 Scott-S6 wrote:
And yet another thread is hijacked for Unit to ask for the same advice, receive the same answers and make the same excuses.

Oh my god I'm becoming martel.
Send help!

 
   
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The Last Chancer Who Survived




United Kingdom

Johnson & The Juice Crew wrote:
Physics and reason? Birch please. My car only gets me to work and back because it's held together by hopes and dreams.

Physics and reason...

And all those heretics that claim humans came from apes! We all know that the Emprah made each and every one of us, and has a plan for everything!
   
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Coming Soon - to a Coven near you

 Desubot wrote:
 Happyjew wrote:

Are you kidding? Occasionally I am forced to pray to the Machine God at my work just to get things to function.


I pray to them all the time when i whip out the old SNES or N64


Have an EXALT!!

"So.. If she weighs as much as a duck..." Inquisitor Monty 
   
Made in us
Powerful Phoenix Lord





Buffalo, NY

 Desubot wrote:
 Happyjew wrote:

Are you kidding? Occasionally I am forced to pray to the Machine God at my work just to get things to function.


I pray to them all the time when i whip out the old SNES or N64


Too new school. I still rock the Atari. I don't need those fancy 16+ bits.

Greebo had spent an irritating two minutes in that box. Technically, a cat locked in a box may be alive or it may be dead. You never know until you look. In fact, the mere act of opening the box will determine the state of the cat, although in this case there were three determinate states the cat could be in: these being Alive, Dead, and Bloody Furious.
Orks always ride in single file to hide their strength and numbers.
Gozer the Gozerian, Gozer the Destructor, Volguus Zildrohar, Gozer the Traveler, and Lord of the Sebouillia 
   
Made in gb
Hallowed Canoness





Between

In summation, the animistic belief in machine spirits (or other kinds of souls-of-objects for that matter) is neither stupid nor laughable, but in fact a very real and very common thing.

So please remember that even though the mods decided the OP was acceptable, it was still somewhat offensive to believers.



"That time I only loaded the cannon with powder. Next time, I will fill it with jewels and diamonds and they will cut you to shrebbons!" - Nogbad the Bad. 
   
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The Last Chancer Who Survived




United Kingdom

 Furyou Miko wrote:
In summation, the animistic belief in machine spirits (or other kinds of souls-of-objects for that matter) is neither stupid nor laughable, but in fact a very real and very common thing.

So please remember that even though the mods decided the OP was acceptable, it was still somewhat offensive to believers.

RELIGION!
   
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 Furyou Miko wrote:
In summation, the animistic belief in machine spirits (or other kinds of souls-of-objects for that matter) is neither stupid nor laughable, but in fact a very real and very common thing.

So please remember that even though the mods decided the OP was acceptable, it was still somewhat offensive to believers.


The funny thing too about animism is that it's almost instinctual for a human being.

“There is only one good, knowledge, and one evil, ignorance.”
 
   
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The darkness between the stars

 Wyzilla wrote:
 Furyou Miko wrote:
In summation, the animistic belief in machine spirits (or other kinds of souls-of-objects for that matter) is neither stupid nor laughable, but in fact a very real and very common thing.

So please remember that even though the mods decided the OP was acceptable, it was still somewhat offensive to believers.


The funny thing too about animism is that it's almost instinctual for a human being.


Considering how cranky and temperamental my computers have been I can't complain

My first desktop got old and my fix was punchin' the ol' bugger. It worked like a charm or somehow. My next computer was a laptop that broke when I dropped it onto a bed too hard in frustration (the thing was grumpy, prone to lagging from the start, darn bugger. From there I have the grumpiest desktop that has broken in ways that not even specialists notice only to return to me promptly BSODING, stop BSODING but turn off audio, to the audio just returning one day. And my laptop? Oh boy.

Personally, I don't think it's grimlins outside. I think they sneak into us and cause harm to computers.

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I mean there is a saying, even today, that goes something along the lines of "any technology advanced enough appears as magic to those who fail to understand it". Which is fair enough.

For example, show a caveman a car. He would think that it is a chariot of the gods or something. Similarly, seeing how the Mechcanicus has such a small understanding of current technology, it's actually quite reasonable that they have a religious consent around it. I mean afterall, all they can do nowadays is follow the ancient instructions left behind. Like, if you imagine the instructions for building things (like STC) are like holy commandments or holy scriptures, it starts to make sense. Since the Mechanicus actually does not understand the process of how these things work, they view it more religiously.

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United Kingdom

 Zaki66 wrote:
I mean there is a saying, even today, that goes something along the lines of "any technology advanced enough appears as magic to those who fail to understand it". Which is fair enough.

For example, show a caveman a car. He would think that it is a chariot of the gods or something. Similarly, seeing how the Mechanicus has such a small understanding of current technology, it's actually quite reasonable that they have a religious consent around it. I mean afterall, all they can do nowadays is follow the ancient instructions left behind. Like, if you imagine the instructions for building things (like STC) are like holy commandments or holy scriptures, it starts to make sense. Since the Mechanicus actually does not understand the process of how these things work, they view it more religiously.

For a real life example, in WW2 crates of supplies were air dropped to remote villages who before and since had no contact with the civilized world. They began to associate the sight of aircraft with the sudden appearance of food. After the war, when the aircraft stopped coming, they built statues of the aircraft out of wood,, and began praying to it in the hope of being granted more food. They didn't understand the concept of aircraft, and went straight to the belief that they were gods.
   
Made in sg
Gavin Thorpe





 Zaki66 wrote:
I mean there is a saying, even today, that goes something along the lines of "any technology advanced enough appears as magic to those who fail to understand it". Which is fair enough.

For example, show a caveman a car. He would think that it is a chariot of the gods or something. Similarly, seeing how the Mechcanicus has such a small understanding of current technology, it's actually quite reasonable that they have a religious consent around it. I mean afterall, all they can do nowadays is follow the ancient instructions left behind. Like, if you imagine the instructions for building things (like STC) are like holy commandments or holy scriptures, it starts to make sense. Since the Mechanicus actually does not understand the process of how these things work, they view it more religiously.


But if their level of physics is sophisticated enough to operate warp drives, i don't think they would have that much trouble with tanks.
   
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Seattle

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It is best to be a pessimist. You are usually right and, when you're wrong, you're pleasantly surprised. 
   
 
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