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I have ten basic slugga nobs from multiple Black Reach sets, three of them have been converted klaws and bosspoles. I usually detach those for boyz mobs but will inclde them here. I have a couple more nobs from ork boys boxsets.

Footslogger nobs were rather lacklustre but I wonder what has changed for them. I have existing green tide and kan wall armies available and have no budget to invest in trukks I dont have the new codex and would appreciate some help, I did like to use my nobs for casual lists already, but I wonder if the balance has changed sufficiently that I should focus on them. I could make two nobs with a warboss/big mek in each if I wanted to.

With the loss of invulns through cybork bodies, running footslogging Nobz is even worse defensively than back in the previous codex since their fragility against dakka has increased even more. Now if you want them to survive any form of ranged weaponry you need to invest an HQ choice into them to work, usually either a Painboy or Big Mek w/KFF.

They arguably have more reach due to the change to how WAAAGH! works and the addition of 'Ere We Go but this is better used by mechanized Nobz or Nob Bikerz, meaning footslogging Nobz are still far behind when it comes to getting stuck in without being significantly weakened by shooting. Overall they're still not very good in comparison for what you get compared to Boyz, other than access to a WAAAGH! Banner. I think the best use of them right now would be the Council of the WAAAGH! formation in the WAAAGH! Ghazghkull supplement as it gives them a ungodly amount of WS, Fearless, and a very good centre of support for the rest of the footsloggers in your army as it gives off a 12" radius of re-rolling failed morale and pinning tests.

As they were Black Reach nobs, with some klaw conversions through a bits trade website threy had only starter equipment.

They were never cyborks to begin with, just basic t-shirt slugga nobs. Back then I was concerned on price per nob, not his statline. A basic slugga nob is fairly good when supported with the odd klaw or two in the unit, now they are cheaper and I am wondering that if hidden in a green tide or behind kans for delivery they can now kick some cost effective arse.

Before this was a hopeless dream, now I am not too sure.

The issue is their vulnerability to S8 or higher weapons which aren't exactly in short supply. They die arguably just as fast as boyz at 3x the cost, without transports I just see them as too easy to neutralize for the points you pay for them since it's more cost-effective to just have more bodies. You want to use the most out of them CC wise and it seems really bad to waste it by T3-4 when they've probably been already thinned out.

They weren't a good unit before and they price drop really didn't change anything about it. MANz and biker nobz outmatch them in every aspect.

Well, i found some good use to regular nobz within an old dex.

4 nobz (1 pk, 1 bp)
Painboy (grot orderly)
+
Megaboss (cybork)

Riding in a wagon or a truck. It was a great small but killy squad.

Now it won't work cause they can't take a painboy. Oh, and i've tried footslogging nobz. They've never worked. Too easy to shoot down. Too expensive for what they do. Regular boyz are plain better. Nobz really worked only on bikes - now boyz do it better once again. And meganobz are doing heavy hitting much better either cause they're that much more durable.

Regular nobz have only one real benefits over regular boyz - non-character PK. Yep, each of them rocks 5 s5 attacks on the charge but when you consider how slim your chances are of getting there unharmed, you'll find out that plain boyz or meganobz are alwayz doing the job better.

 Jidmah wrote:
They weren't a good unit before and they price drop really didn't change anything about it. MANz and biker nobz outmatch them in every aspect.

Add Flashgitz to that list as well. If you really want to take Non-mega non-Bike Nobz.

I went on a bit of an ebay spree before the codex hit, and was hoping Nobz could still be troops.

So ive got 21 of the bastards... Im hoping to use small units of them as bodyguards for characters like the weirdboy, and bigmek, and hopefully to add some punch to my boyz advance.


I imagine ill end up needing to buy a butt-load of trukks to make them useful, but ill try anyway.

 PipeAlley wrote:

 Jidmah wrote:
They weren't a good unit before and they price drop really didn't change anything about it. MANz and biker nobz outmatch them in every aspect.

Add Flashgitz to that list as well. If you really want to take Non-mega non-Bike Nobz.

True, for just four point they have the "those guys over there are now full of lead" guns

As someone else suggested, the AOBR nobz could work well as 'ard Boyz.

S8+ weapons are far too common to footslog regular nobz. MANz are fine because most of the S8 weaponry you find is AP3 or worse so they still get their 2+ - still gotta watch for rando meltas though.

The "price cut" on regular nobz isnt even recognizable as a price cut since they require an HQ now to regain SOME of their durability (painboy) and lost their invul.
A footnob with 6+ armor and powerklaw costs 43pts. For 3 points LESS you get a 2+ armor and TL Shoota. One could argue MANz dont have access to a Waaagh! banner but big deal when you have 0 defense and are just as expensive/threatening. I'd rather be WS4 and survive than WS5 and lose half my unit before they attack.

 Vineheart01 wrote:

A footnob with 6+ armor and powerklaw costs 43pts. For 3 points LESS you get a 2+ armor and TL Shoota. One could argue MANz dont have access to a Waaagh! banner but big deal when you have 0 defense and are just as expensive/threatening. I'd rather be WS4 and survive than WS5 and lose half my unit before they attack.

lol thats a real soul crushing comparision

oh god (mork/gork) no!
I played a match recently where I had 5 nobs with my warboss and a painboy in a battlewagon, once they got out (and through two assaults, killing a devestator team and a whirlwind) they got shot to pieces with a few krak missiles and a lascannon. s8 and higher will just gib them now, the fnp is useless, the 2 wounds are useless. they just die to high strength shooting.

Before I hade the 5+ invuln and they could withstand a beating from a lot of stuff, my warboss even killing a melee hive tyrant because of his 5++ and fnp combo.

Uses for nobz:

Put them on bikes to lead bikerboyz or form a nob-biker unit. That's especially useful when u've used all your fast attack slots for bikers and buggies and other cool stuff you might have in FA.
Leading squads - be it boyz, tankbustas, kommandoez, etc
Converting to big meks or painboyz.

Using nobz in a unit of nobz...nope - that's a waste.

So, time to count.

You will definitely need at very least one painboy in every ork list. Let's say you're taking 2.
There are alwayz gona be around 5-8 squads in your army that need nobz to lead them unless you play something specific like a walker wall, meganob-themed or grot-themed armies and stuff like that.
You've still got around 10 left. Will probably be worthwile to make a few units of biker nobz. They're still quite decent as flankers. Or as target saturation. Don't overinvest in there. I think that units of 3-4 are well enough. Be it with 1 pk, bp or with a bigchoppa - whatever combination you like.

I see small units of biker nobz being quite useful in speed freaks armies.

Could convert them into flash gits.

I actually like running a normal Nob unit, usually just give them 'eavy armour. Usually they're the bodyguard for my warboss (and painboy) and ride in a battlewagon. with 5 s5 attacks each on the charge they're kinda nasty. plus the two wounds make them annoying to kill off with more conventional weaponry.

But yeah, Nobs on warbikes = nastyness!