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According to some fluff, the Outsider is described as one of the, if not the most, dangerous C'tan.

It's never been explained but if Nightbringer has the most pure power, Deceiver the most guile and Dragon the control over machine, what kind of power does the Outsider have to be the most dangerous C'tan? I mean, fluff said that Tyranids actually went around the place he was chilling to avoid him outside the galaxy.

He clearly has the most forever alone powers

Didnt he eat most of his ctan friends?

 Desubot wrote:
He clearly has the most forever alone powers

Didnt he eat most of his ctan friends?

LOL. That's true, he literally has like... no friends. And yes, that is most likely because he ate other C'tans so everyone knew him as a team-killer.

Transdimensional Thunderbolt and Time's Arrow, suggests White Dwarf.

 Zaki66 wrote:
According to some fluff, the Outsider is described as one of the, if not the most, dangerous C'tan.

It's never been explained but if Nightbringer has the most pure power, Deceiver the most guile and Dragon the control over machine, what kind of power does the Outsider have to be the most dangerous C'tan? I mean, fluff said that Tyranids actually went around the place he was chilling to avoid him outside the galaxy.

The Void Dragon is explicitly the most powerful C'tan, even above Nightbringer.

The Outsider is madness incarnate. Or was, before it got broken to pieces.

I don't know if you can straight up say the Void Dragon is the most powerful. It seems to alternate between he and the Night Bringer.

As far as the Outside, yeah, he is pure crazy. ANything exposed to him for too long will go insane. That might be the most straight dangerous aspect a CTan can have. I mean, even if you escape his presence, he stays with you in madness.

I'm right with you there. I am extremely interested in knowing more about it...how powerful must he be if he can make en entire Hive Fleet (!) run away in fear?

The unsharded C'Tan were truly gods of the physical realm, "born" before the galaxy had fully formed, and before the laws of physics were written, and thus they are not bound to them.

 Psienesis wrote:
The unsharded C'Tan were truly gods of the physical realm, "born" before the galaxy had fully formed, and before the laws of physics were written, and thus they are not bound to them.

That's what's so scary about him. The Outsider possesses unimaginable powers and unlike the Deceiver, who still has a general aim when acting, he is completely crazy and the only beings that could stop him would be the Nightbringer or the Void Dragon.

Isn't the implication that the Hive Mind sensed the insanity and wouldn't have been immune either? Think of the craziness that would be tyrannies born not from ruthless efficient but from the insane mind of a system sized biomass? Not as effective, but outrageously crazy.

Tyranids tend to avoid any Necron world as there is nothing to gain for them on them. I'd imagine a giant metal prison with a C'tan inside wouldn't offer anything useful.

Has the inter C'tan war not been retconned as the Necrons attacked them just after the defeat of the Old Ones when they were their most weak? Arguably the Deceiver could have been manipulating his fellow C'tan into devouring each other during the War in Heaven but I don't think it's mentioned in the new fluff.

So from what everyone's been saying... he is the incarnation of Madness just like how Nightbringer is the incarnation of Death?

That sounds ridiculously powerful. And yes... dangerous.

In a very weird way...the Deceiver somehow saved the universe.

 Medium of Death wrote:
Tyranids tend to avoid any Necron world as there is nothing to gain for them on them. I'd imagine a giant metal prison with a C'tan inside wouldn't offer anything useful.

Yes but the hive mind didn't just ignore the prison, and it doesn't go out of its way to avoid Necron worlds, it just passes by. The Hivemind avoided the Outsider because it wouldn't necessarily be immune to the effects of the madness. Nothing in the corporeal world would be.

Has the inter C'tan war not been retconned as the Necrons attacked them just after the defeat of the Old Ones when they were their most weak? Arguably the Deceiver could have been manipulating his fellow C'tan into devouring each other during the War in Heaven but I don't think it's mentioned in the new fluff.

I would have to look back, but I thought that still happened to a degree. The Nightbringer did still consume some of his brethren. Might be mixing all the fluff together.

The fluff for the Outsider comes from an issue of White Dwarf. The Ousider is not madness incarnate, it just went mad. The Eldar Trickster god conned it into killing and eating it's fellow C'tan unintentionally. This left shards of them inside it and the result was it was driven insane. This enabled the Trickster god to either weaken or imprison it.

Before this the Outsider was nasty but not the incarnation of anything in particular. C'tan don't represent anything as such. They don't embody any sort of emotion or belief. The Nightbringer is just more than average psychotic even for a C'tan. The Nightbringer looks like death because it was the first to come up with the idea or more accurately the look of death. Since the Nightbringer's defeat the idea of death has been in the racial conciousness of the galaxy and different races have remembered the Nightbringer.

 Leech wrote:
The fluff for the Outsider comes from an issue of White Dwarf. The Ousider is not madness incarnate, it just went mad. The Eldar Trickster god conned it into killing and eating it's fellow C'tan unintentionally. This left shards of them inside it and the result was it was driven insane. This enabled the Trickster god to either weaken or imprison it.

Before this the Outsider was nasty but not the incarnation of anything in particular. C'tan don't represent anything as such. They don't embody any sort of emotion or belief. The Nightbringer is just more than average psychotic even for a C'tan. The Nightbringer looks like death because it was the first to come up with the idea or more accurately the look of death. Since the Nightbringer's defeat the idea of death has been in the racial conciousness of the galaxy and different races have remembered the Nightbringer.

But there are those C'tan with specific... set of abilities and affinities. Like Dragon with machines or Deceiver with guile. Or heck, the new random C'tan named the Burning One with fire.

 Leech wrote:
The fluff for the Outsider comes from an issue of White Dwarf. The Ousider is not madness incarnate, it just went mad. The Eldar Trickster god conned it into killing and eating it's fellow C'tan unintentionally. This left shards of them inside it and the result was it was driven insane. This enabled the Trickster god to either weaken or imprison it.

Before this the Outsider was nasty but not the incarnation of anything in particular. C'tan don't represent anything as such. They don't embody any sort of emotion or belief. The Nightbringer is just more than average psychotic even for a C'tan. The Nightbringer looks like death because it was the first to come up with the idea or more accurately the look of death. Since the Nightbringer's defeat the idea of death has been in the racial conciousness of the galaxy and different races have remembered the Nightbringer.

You are mostly right, but you are forgetting the part where Tsara'noga causes madness in those around him.

YEs he is crazy, but such is the power of the CTan that they infuse reality with their essential essence.

Is the Outsider locked in a Dyson sphere?

Who put it in there?

Does his shattered "mind" resonate out into the space around him thus acting as a form of static that interferes with the Hive Mind?

Is there really a C'tan of fire?