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Has the new ork codex delivered anything that can kill a knight?

Because I am not seeing it.

Tankbustas.

They were good at killing knights in the last codex.

They are even better at it now.

Tankbustas
Stompa

And I guess Killsaws/Power Klaws.

I read a Battle Report the other day where a guy beat an Imperial Knight army with a Grot army.

Grots, grots, more gots, and some Knights!

Now, I'm not saying that this is the best option, but its damned hilarious.


Klaws still work, Orks have gotten access to shooting options with the Mek Gunz, Orks have self repairing Stompa of doom, Tankbustas, Lootas aren't terrible, DakkaJets on Side/Rear Armor, etc.

The Orks have some options, heavy armor are still a problem for them.

Wouldnt the knight wipe out a unit of tank bustas before they even strike? Never actually faced one so i dont know how many attacks it has, but then again its bound to take a pen hit from every tankbusta that isnt dead since theyre swinging melta bombs now with tankhunter reroll.

 Zagman wrote:
I read a Battle Report the other day where a guy beat an Imperial Knight army with a Grot army.

Grots, grots, more gots, and some Knights!

Now, I'm not saying that this is the best option, but its damned hilarious.


Klaws still work, Orks have gotten access to shooting options with the Mek Gunz, Orks have self repairing Stompa of doom, Tankbustas, Lootas aren't terrible, DakkaJets on Side/Rear Armor, etc.

The Orks have some options, heavy armor are still a problem for them.

This batrep is pure win.

Although, I think someone mentions later on that if it was kill points the Grot player wouldn't have had a chance.

I take three 12 man squads of tankbustas in trukks.
Ideally, you want to focus them down with combined fire from the three squads (much easier now, with tank hunters.) Melta bombs in assault still works, but you are pretty much guaranteed to lose the squad when the knight goes boom.

 Vineheart01 wrote:
Wouldnt the knight wipe out a unit of tank bustas before they even strike? Never actually faced one so i dont know how many attacks it has, but then again its bound to take a pen hit from every tankbusta that isnt dead since theyre swinging melta bombs now with tankhunter reroll.

As best I can recall a knight only has 3/4 attacks right? So that's only 3/4 boys max that die before they get to plant some melta bombs while being stomped to death. Still tweaking my ideal list but a trukk full of tank bustas has a safe spot even if they are a suicide unit.

Tankbustas are probably the most efficient option. However, their shooting will hardly do anything.
In assault though, they will purely mulch a Knight, and they die basically the same as meganobz for much cheaper.

Meganobz with one killsaw hiding in the unit can take care of Knights with relative ease.

I think that Orks might have the easiest time killing Knights out of any of the codexes (maybe).

Also yes, a Knight only has 3 attacks base.

The unkillable stompa? with the silly amounts of meks inside? surely that can do the job? I don't know i'v not seen a knights statline or played against one??

 Chaos Legionnaire wrote:
Tankbustas.

They were good at killing knights in the last codex.

They are even better at it now.

My problem with tankbustas is that the aspect orks all still have t-shirts and dont take well to pie plates. Is there any higher priority for first turn pie than tankbustas?

NamelessBard wrote:

Stompa

And I guess Killsaws/Power Klaws.

I dont think Stompa is really a fair answer as you shouldn't have to rely on it as a staple.

Klaws are good but the knight is rather nasty in melee itself.

 Zagman wrote:
I read a Battle Report the other day where a guy beat an Imperial Knight army with a Grot army.

Grots, grots, more gots, and some Knights!

Now, I'm not saying that this is the best option, but its damned hilarious.

The Orks have some options, heavy armor are still a problem for them.

Well I must admit to not seeing that answer. Grots hmm, love the report.

A knight is also a super heavy walker so can stomp as well. Just like our stompa can. This will most likely finish off our poor little Tankbusta squad right before the Knight goes Boom!!!

Well, your tank busta squad is dead from the explosion anyway. Stomp is at I1, so same time as melta bombs

Shooting will do a bit (11 will do 1 HP at front AV and with the inv up), but you want to charge afterwards with melta bombs.

And they should be riding in a battlewagon.

Orks have a ton of options to kill a knight.

S8 Shooting
Rokkits (Tankbustas, Warbuggies, Deffkoptas, Vehicles)
Kannons
Kustom Mega Blaster / Slugga / Kannon

S7 Shooting
Lootas
Dakkajets

Other high strength shooting
Smasha Gun
Zzap Gun
Wrecking Balls
Shokk Attack Gun

Up close and personal:
Power Claws
Kill Saws
Tankbusta Bombs

Contrast that to Tyranids who have S6 rather than S8 shooting, and only get 1 attack with smash (Power Claw equivalent), and Crushing Claws (Kill Saw Equiv) are only S7 most of the time, and neither one have mobility options like ork Trukks / battlewagons

You are going to have trouble building a TAC list that deals with 3-5 knights, but that is the state of 40k. Everyone has trouble building a TAC list that deals with 3-5 knights. Just remember you don't have to kill them to win games.


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If you take Ghazghkull's Bullyboyz, put the MANZ in Trukks and give the boss MANZ's Kill-Saws you should have no problem dealing with a few Knights or most anything else. Take some Trukk boyz (not in their trukks) just in case the MANZ need to hitch a ride.

Dakkajets are S6 not S7. Other than that lots of options just going to have to see how well some of them actually work fortunately I have allot of orks and 3 knights to try some things out.

Knights are a super heavy walker? Never heard that one.

One of my regular opponents takes 3 knights in a 1500 point game.

I have no difficulty killing the knights with tankbustas. The knights die. Every time. Tankbustas work very well.

A large part of their success lies in the fact that you take a true combined arms detachment (an excellent strategic concept in use long before GW adopted it.)

Also bring a unit (or two, depending on points) of lootas. Squadrons of 5 rokkit buggies zooming up the flanks (I prefer not to reserve/outflank them, ) means that there is pressure and target saturation from turn one.

What you end up with is a maneuverable army with interlocking fields of fire containing several units which are capable of wrecking knights (and many other things besides.)

It depends on your play style, really. I tend not to waste points on dedicated close combat units, preferring instead to focus my strategy on fire and maneuver.

15 kannons with ammo runts,
15 warbuggies with rokkits.
690pts.
19+ hits on average. 6+ glance/pens.
Causes over 3hps a turn on average against knights WITH shield against all shots.
Knights can at best take 5 buggies down a turn (which lets face it - if your stupid enough to place all 5 buggies within 5" of each other you deserve to lose them). Which won't massively effect the damage output.
Orks have more reliable anti-knight for cheaper than most armies now!
Just stop thinking combat and start thinking shooty and look at the dex again.