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I love the model and want to field one,
Which do you think is better all around to build, the Gorkanaut or the Morkanaut?

Ap2 Best ork behemoth.

AP2 stronkest ork behemoth.

Morkanaut.

Either way you build it, the thing is going to be a fire magnet. The KFF means it is marginally more survivable vs ranged anti-tank plus the crowd of shootaboyz around it get a small 5++ bubble, too.

Comparing the guns, I actually like the KMK better, too. Blast weapons are an Ork's best friend. You might get a few less hits per turn vs the 3D6 megashoota, but it will be at +2S and AP2! To me, losing the 1-3 CC attacks is not as great as the ranged blast AND 5++ vs range. I plan on sending the 'naut against heavier vehicles, so how many S10 hits do you really need, anyway? I'd rather get some damage in on the first few turns before you actually stomp close enough.

I've have only used the Morkanaught for far, but that 5++ is super useful. I run him with a screen of 6 kanz and a dredd. It's about 700 points for all of them, but they are one mean force.

Back them up with a bunch of shoota boyz and koptas, your opponent will have a lot to deal with.

Morkanaut is probably better, but who knows... maybe there's a reason the 'worse' one is higher cost.

Gorkanaut has better guns and has Rampage for melee.
Literally all the Morkanaut has going for it is its the only non-HQ source of a KFF. The guns are pretty crap imo, and they have Gets Hot which have a 50-50 chance to glance himself if he rolls a 1 on the Gets Hot! attempt.

You can easily add a KFF to an army with a gorkanaut anyway. Have a big mek following behind him - the model is so fat its pretty easy to stay out of sight. This way the KFF protects more than just the gorkanaut, since im pretty sure the naut wont ever be alone unless everything else died.

 Vineheart01 wrote:
Gorkanaut has better guns and has Rampage for melee.
Literally all the Morkanaut has going for it is its the only non-HQ source of a KFF. The guns are pretty crap imo, and they have Gets Hot which have a 50-50 chance to glance himself if he rolls a 1 on the Gets Hot! attempt.

You can easily add a KFF to an army with a gorkanaut anyway. Have a big mek following behind him - the model is so fat its pretty easy to stay out of sight. This way the KFF protects more than just the gorkanaut, since im pretty sure the naut wont ever be alone unless everything else died.

True, but I prefered the Mork over the Gork due to the fact that the Mork does the KFF better than the Big Mek, and frees up a highly clogged HQ slot. With the right support, I have a feeling the Morkanught will be the superior of the two and most used. Though they seem to be designed to work best if you use one of each to back each other up, and to cause saturation. Do you kill the one protecting the shootier one? Or bite the bullet and try to kill the shootier one and hope the supportive one will glance itself to death with its own weapons?

All in all, until I get some field tests on my Morkanaught, on paper, I prefer the Mork. *shrug* I don't mind the chances to Gets Hot when it has a blast template to help smack around some Marines who will probably shrug off the Gorkanaught's gattler anyways :(

 Vineheart01 wrote:
Gorkanaut has better guns and has Rampage for melee.
Literally all the Morkanaut has going for it is its the only non-HQ source of a KFF. The guns are pretty crap imo, and they have Gets Hot which have a 50-50 chance to glance himself if he rolls a 1 on the Gets Hot! attempt.

You can easily add a KFF to an army with a gorkanaut anyway. Have a big mek following behind him - the model is so fat its pretty easy to stay out of sight. This way the KFF protects more than just the gorkanaut, since im pretty sure the naut wont ever be alone unless everything else died.

How is the 3d6 shoota and a skorcha better than KMK and KMB?

 Jidmah wrote:

 Vineheart01 wrote:
Gorkanaut has better guns and has Rampage for melee.
Literally all the Morkanaut has going for it is its the only non-HQ source of a KFF. The guns are pretty crap imo, and they have Gets Hot which have a 50-50 chance to glance himself if he rolls a 1 on the Gets Hot! attempt.

You can easily add a KFF to an army with a gorkanaut anyway. Have a big mek following behind him - the model is so fat its pretty easy to stay out of sight. This way the KFF protects more than just the gorkanaut, since im pretty sure the naut wont ever be alone unless everything else died.

How is the 3d6 shoota and a skorcha better than KMK and KMB?

I can only see the 3D6 gun being 'better' due to the Orky way of 'more shots means more chances to kill'. But I do prefer the small S8 AP2 Blast better, alongside the traditional KMB. Again, the risk for Gets Hot! is there, but is small enough for me not to worry about it too much. Again, thats why you fill it with Meks :p

can either of them take on an imperial knight?

BAN wrote:
can either of them take on an imperial knight?

I've yet to try, but according to the White Dwarf they were revealed in...no. Not in Melee anyway. The Knight still has a Str D weapon, the Klaw we have is only S10. Ranged wise, I'm not sure yet either. We can fire off 2 Rokkits and 2 Kustom weapons a turn, but I doubt with our BS it will be enough to take it down effectively.

Can a stomps take on a knight?

BAN wrote:
Can a stomps take on a knight?

In melee?
it could take on one, maybe two. Not 3.

 grendel083 wrote:

BAN wrote:
Can a stomps take on a knight?

In melee?
it could take on one, maybe two. Not 3.

I feel like it really comes down to who rolls better, even for 1v1. The knight goes first and if it happens to get a 6 its lights out (or at least it will makes its points back in the hull points it will cost you)

buckero0 wrote:

I love the model and want to field one,
Which do you think is better all around to build, the Gorkanaut or the Morkanaut?

The Morkanaut is more durable by itself (assuming the KFF) The blastas are very useful. The Morkanaut can also protect surrounding orks, which is very helpful. A mek with a KFF doesn't make the Morkanaut more durable, but he can repair it.

However, the Gorkanaut's weapons can all snap shoot. The Morkanaut can only snap shoot the two Rokkits. That means your Gorkanaut can have a go at flyers, and also mess up someone who assaults it. If you put a mek with a KFF in the Gorkanaut, he can protect it, and repair it, so you get the most benefit out of the mek. It also has more attacks, so it can handle a fight more easily.

I really think that the Morkanaut works better in the middle of a mob of orks, where it helps out everybody, while the Gorkanaut works better out on its own on a flank or something. It can withstand an assault better, and, if you use a mek with KFF, is just as durable (but more expensive). Look at how you want to use the beast, and then construct it that way. If your whole army is gonna outpace it, then a Gorkanaut might be better. If you will have it advance with the rest of the boys in a big scrum, go with the Morkanaut.

Only the Kustom Mega Kannon is a blast btw. The rest are single shots and can be snap fired.

Would be kinda funny if we could outflank these guys lol. Just had a thought of a Gorkanaut popping up beside the enemy and unleashing the dakka.

EDIT: Also anybody else noticing the lack of an entry for the Deffstorm Mega-Shoota? its in the back of the book but not in the armory lol.

If I had to choose I think I'm 60/40 in favor of the Morkanaut... but why not both?!

The Deffstorm Mega-Shoota is in the armory bottom of page 96, under 'Shoota Weapons'.

Oh, there it is lol.

OK, found something GW needs to FAQ badly.

Deffstorm Megashoota in the back of the book says 36" S5 AP5 Heavy 3D6, the entry on page 96 says the same range and shots but says S6 AP4. Thats a MAJOR typo. Wounds on 3s or 4s? Pens FW armor or Pathfinder? That is freakin huge.

Up until now i was actually kinda shocked i wasnt finding any first-day-FAQ worthy issues. Found one lol.
EDIT: Whitedwarf listed it as St6 AP4 as well so until FAQ'd im going with that.Two entries saying its stronger vs 1 its weaker. Stronger wins.

 Vineheart01 wrote:
Oh, there it is lol.

OK, found something GW needs to FAQ badly.

Deffstorm Megashoota in the back of the book says 36" S5 AP5 Heavy 3D6, the entry on page 96 says the same range and shots but says S6 AP4. Thats a MAJOR typo. Wounds on 3s or 4s? Pens FW armor or Pathfinder? That is freakin huge.

Up until now i was actually kinda shocked i wasnt finding any first-day-FAQ worthy issues. Found one lol.
EDIT: Whitedwarf listed it as St6 AP4 as well so until FAQ'd im going with that.Two entries saying its stronger vs 1 its weaker. Stronger wins.

Not to mention the fact that the Summary sheets in the back of codices have historically been riddled with typos. They're meant for quick reference, not actual rules, so go by what it says in the text of the book (S6 AP4).

That small blast Kustom Mega Cannon is not as useful as the Deffstorm Cannon or whatever its called.

And since the Gorkanaut has Rampage he always gets it in Close Combat almost.

Only downside is I would still have to pay for a KFF to run it and even then I'd likely just put the big mek inside the naut as to not leave it in the open.

Both have their uses though the Morkanaut really is meant to help our boyz up the field as the KFF did get a major nerf in that it no longer covers like 3 mobs of boyz. I personally prefer the Gorkanaut just because it is more krumpy, but the Morkanaut really fills a spot that ork armies that are not in trukks desperately still need.

I'd like to try having a Morkanaut on a flank then deploy a Gorkanaut around 12" away with a Big Mek KFF walking behind him for epic shields.

I would take both or nothing. Maybe a Mork flanked by 2 Gorks. A unit of Burnas in each with max Meks for the odd thing that wants to charge it.

My main issue with them is their 6" movement speed. I love that the Stompa can keep up with a BW and Bikes.

My league only plays Malestrom missions so the Gorks and Morks would be left behind with the artillery.