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Hey guys,

I cannot STAND the plague flies model for the plague drones unit, but as a big fan of nurgle I would like to use plague drones in my army. Would you accept this proxy/conversion (to play against)
Plaguebearers riding a chaos knight horse but the horse is all nurgly looking. They go on the same sized base.

Yes, yes I would.

I normally encourage this kind of thing. Good luck!

Wouldn't have a problem, and I wouldn't be too hung up on base size either, but a chaos knight horse would normally be on a cavalry base, and plague drones are on large flying bases, so you'd need to mount them on 60mm bases to be approximate.

Thanks guys! I just finished the first coat and i think the finished product will be original and cool! Hopefully it can look as good as what Swast puts on the table.

jakl277 wrote:
Thanks guys! I just finished the first coat and i think the finished product will be original and cool! Hopefully it can look as good as what Swast puts on the table.

Please post pics! I think it'd be cool when done!

I don't have a problem with proxies as long as they aren't a) modeled for advantage or b) a bunch of non GW stuff. You can't show up to Friday night magic with a bunch of printed out cards so I'm not sure why people show up to 40k day with an army that's half made of other random minis. I want to know at a glance what I'm looking at and dealing with, not try to remember what the hell your M1A1 Abrams is supposed to represent.

But say someone had a stormtrooper army using these models, regular sci-fi humans in heavyish armour etc, would you really have a problem?

Proxy whatever you want in my opinion as long as it is obvious what the model is.

If the bases were comparable it would be alright.

If there is a picture then I can't see it. I see no evidence of a picture even existing

I would definitely be okay with that.

jakl277 wrote:Hey guys,

I cannot STAND the plague flies model for the plague drones unit, but as a big fan of nurgle I would like to use plague drones in my army. Would you accept this proxy/conversion (to play against)
Plaguebearers riding a chaos knight horse but the horse is all nurgly looking. They go on the same sized base.

Seems like a good switch. For a good proxy, you really just need something that is the same size model and base, armed the same (not an issue here) and easy to recognize.

motyak wrote:But say someone had a stormtrooper army using these models, regular sci-fi humans in heavyish armour etc, would you really have a problem?

Spoiler:

Definitely wouldn't have a problem, and this wouldn't even necessarily be a proxy. This is even better than that. As long as the minis were armed relatively WYSIWYG, you're probably looking at an "Alternate model". Base size wouldn't bother me much, but you'd be better off putting them on 25mm bases. Not only would it match GW standards and reduce any pushback from other gamers, but IMHO, the minis just aren't big enough to require that large a base. Even the kneeling figure would fit completely on a standard 25mm slotta.

 Shadox wrote:
If the bases were comparable it would be alright.

Em4 is your friend:
http://www.em4miniatures.com/acatalog/MINIAATURES_BASES.html

20 bases for £1.02

Toofast wrote:
I don't have a problem with proxies as long as they aren't a) modeled for advantage or b) a bunch of ic with a bunch of printed out cards so I'm not sure why people show up to 40k day with an army that's half made of other random minis. I want to know at a glance what I'm looking at and dealing with, not try to remember what the hell your M1A1 Abrams is supposed to represent.

no oooooooo! you just need to get a bit creative. For example, if you stick by this rule you have doomed those who play guard around you to a scarily limited selection of models. Which is not cool.

My current army is mostly non GW stuff and nobody has a problem with it. I spent ages finding the perfect fit and converting them etc.

So instead of seeing an Abram and saying no straight away. Just ask what it is and go from there. His theme or ideal army could have those tanks and you just put a stop to it. It's his army mate, no need to be uptight and picky about it.

personally I would rather play with someone who took the time to find cool alternatives than someone who just used most of their models as they are on the box. But I'mnot ffussed either way.

What is described in the OP sounds more like a conversion to me. When I hear "proxy" I normally take that to mean something completely different standing in for something it isn't temporarily.

For example, if you had Rough Riders who were all on bikes instead of horses and always used them as such I wouldn't strictly call that a proxy, I use the term more to refer to those "all these flamers are plasma guns for this game" situations.

 Swastakowey wrote:

Toofast wrote:
I don't have a problem with proxies as long as they aren't a) modeled for advantage or b) a bunch of ic with a bunch of printed out cards so I'm not sure why people show up to 40k day with an army that's half made of other random minis. I want to know at a glance what I'm looking at and dealing with, not try to remember what the hell your M1A1 Abrams is supposed to represent.

no oooooooo! you just need to get a bit creative. For example, if you stick by this rule you have doomed those who play guard around you to a scarily limited selection of models. Which is not cool.

My current army is mostly non GW stuff and nobody has a problem with it. I spent ages finding the perfect fit and converting them etc.

So instead of seeing an Abram and saying no straight away. Just ask what it is and go from there. His theme or ideal army could have those tanks and you just put a stop to it. It's his army mate, no need to be uptight and picky about it.

personally I would rather play with someone who took the time to find cool alternatives than someone who just used most of their models as they are on the box. But I'mnot ffussed either way.

I think there is a middle way.
Toofast,
I think one just has to be consistent. An M1 might be a bit odd, but as long as all the Russes are M1's (and visa versa) and they are all armed with the same weapon (not confusion of this-is-this-but-also-that) and all your m16's are lasguns, etc, it can be easy to tell what' s what. IMO, it's hodge-podge armies of mixed minis or minis where what things count-as isn't consistent or aren't generally WYSIWYG that make gaming difficult.

Swastakowy,
I don't think it's hard to have unique IG armies while staying relatively within WYSIWYG in terms of base/shape/weaponry/etc .There are actually alot of options for possible alternative IG tanks and infantry out there that are of somewhat similar dimensions as what they could sub for and have similar armaments or are modifiable to fit WYSIWYG.

As long as you are not "conjuring" bloodletters and placing cadians on the table!!!!!!!!!!!!!!