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 pretre wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
I cannot believe that chariot thing is...a real thing.

Wow.

I know! Awesome, isn't it?

Agreed. Quite apart from what looks to be an absolutely fantastic Logan model, a floaty longboat-inspired chariot is thematic without being as lazy as "wolves riding wolves *mother of god memeface* ermahgerd we're geniuses" crap that was TWC. Once again though, GW seem intent on sabotaging the quality of their output with crappy "you can do it too, little Timmy!" paintjobs on the studio models.

At discounter prices, I'll be getting one of these in a couple of months just for Logan, and I'll likely save the chariot for a custom diorama when FW release Leman Russ.

Just bought the wolf guard edition.... ouch these things are getting pricey. Hope the grimnar expansion is worth it.

Holy crap, that chariot and Logan are fantalicious!
And I convinced myself that the Wolfgurad Edition isn't overpriced:
Codex: 39€
Supplement: 39€
160p. Companies book: probably 50€
6 metal objectives: 20€ easily
12 art prints: comparing it to picture postcards I would say at least 3€ each, so 36€
really nice box: 10€

So my estimated retail price for all items combined is 194€ and GW wants 200€. So if we disregard for a moment that 39€-50€ are way too high prices for those books, you actually get decent value for your money without paying much for the rarity.

 pretre wrote:
Reminder from the first post:
Logan Grimnar - Lord of War - Points = Land Raider
Epic new model, comes with a sort of grav-chariot called 'Stormrider' pulled by two enormous Fenrisian wolves, but he can be used without it as well.
Stormrider - Points = 70
Treated as a vehicle, didn't get AVs, has a 4+ Invulnerable save and cannot suffer Penetrating hits (all Pens are reduced to Glances).
Gives Logan 4 S5 Ap- attacks on a turn when he charges.
Logan loses Deep Strike if he takes Stormrider
Lots of other cool rules, but didn't get those.

Sounds detailed enough to be either very true or very wrong, but no reason to doubt this far!

Bit odd to give both models a 4++ though, as the controlling player allocates wounds between the two anyway no? Also I thought the rider retains his attack profile and is not superseded with any others? I for one would rather the old Frost Sword/Power Fist choice, S4 AP3 beats S5 AP- any day of the week for me. Unless it is a form of Furious Charge in addition, in which case I'll take one now thank you!

Flipping Penetrating hits into Glancing hits would be great though, eliminates all chance of Immobilisation outside of Dangerous Terrain.

I'm ok with the Sled, but agree painting it brown like wood would be an improvement

 pretre wrote:
Soo... Supposedly we get up to 6HQs, right? And wolf lords can take the chariot?

I wanna field 6. Then 2 Minimum sized GH. Then 2 more. Muhahahahaha

Ben Hur-themed Space Wolf army in 3... 2...

 insaniak wrote:

 pretre wrote:
Soo... Supposedly we get up to 6HQs, right? And wolf lords can take the chariot?

I wanna field 6. Then 2 Minimum sized GH. Then 2 more. Muhahahahaha

Ben Hur-themed Space Wolf army in 3... 2...

Totally worth it.

Found on WargamerAU

Well, that covers whether he is removable...

I said, ‘we recruit for attitude and not for skill’. It is what makes us great. It is those people who design the miniatures; those people who make them and those people who sell them; those people who transformed our business systems in five short months. I have been deluged with two comments about that statement, neither of which was: 'you fool, you just gave away the crown jewels'. Why doesn't everyone do it? Ask them.

Tom Kirby, © 2014.

 RiTides wrote:

Spoiler:

I said, ‘we recruit for attitude and not for skill’. It is what makes us great. It is those people who design the miniatures; those people who make them and those people who sell them; those people who transformed our business systems in five short months. I have been deluged with two comments about that statement, neither of which was: 'you fool, you just gave away the crown jewels'. Why doesn't everyone do it? Ask them.

Tom Kirby, © 2014.

I think you're looking for the 'Is GW going under?' thread or the Annual Report thread...

Wow, I need to find who converted that thing and congratulate them on such an amazing troll.

Y'know, I find myself warming slightly to the chariot... because it occurred to me that it's the sort of off-beat thing that if I had come across it as a conversion in someone's modelling blog, I would have said was hilarious and awesome.

I think part of the problem for me is that GW's Thunderwolves are awful.

As others have mentioned, the painting also doesn't help it any.

But as a concept... yes, it's silly. But it is also kind of epic.

 insaniak wrote:
Y'know, I find myself warming slightly to the chariot... because it occurred to me that it's the sort of off-beat thing that if I had come across it as a conversion in someone's modelling blog, I would have said was hilarious and awesome.

I think part of the problem for me is that GW's Thunderwolves are awful.

As others have mentioned, the painting also doesn't help it any.

But as a concept... yes, it's silly. But it is also kind of epic.

I think it'll be easy enough to put any manner of different beast in the front...

 pretre wrote:

 pizzaguardian wrote:
Grey hunters have only 2 weapons pretre, chainsword iswolf guard pack leader only.

Aww damn. You got it.

This is just the basic profile, the army list will have info on whether they can purchase CCWs (and unless the pics they have posted are illegal, they totally can).

 Bulldogging wrote:

ChrisB wrote:
Indeed it is

I like it.

Yeah it's not as bad as I feared. Still a stupid concept, but it's decent enough that I would consider actually buying one...

 Bulldogging wrote:

 jab4962 wrote:

 Bulldogging wrote:

 pretre wrote:

 WallaceMerrett wrote:
Hmmm I wish it was longer like the fluffly image suggested, but cool in concept if not entirely my cup of tea, (might be the slight bling overload that's not ticking all the boxes personally). That being said, congratulations to GW for trying something different, I'll pick one up regardless once someone buys my damn Stormclaw Ork army

I think a different paint job will do it a lot of justice. Also, aren't those TWC size wolves? Damn.

Actually it is the exact same plastic as the TWC box, 2 of the 3 wolves from the box.

Form what I can tell

Unless I'm looking incorrectly, the wolves are different. The TWC box comes with one with a bionic arm and ones with a bionic left eye, and right wolf on the chariot is leaping off of something that is not ground level.

It's been a while since I assembled mine, but Im 99% sure the wolves had option to not use/use bionics. I know I have at least 1 extra TW leg in my box.

Look at the feet position, if it isn't the same sprus, its a very minor changed one.

No, they're definitely the TWC that come in the box, they have interchangeable legs. Source: I just bought a box a week ago, so I know.

 insaniak wrote:
Found on WargamerAU

He looks like he's saying "AND MY AXE!!!"

I like my whimsical 40k /shrug.

It's one of the things I loved when my friend got me into it in the 90s. I know it's more "serious" over all now, but why can't it have some fun thrown in?

 pretre wrote:

I think it'll be easy enough to put any manner of different beast in the front...

Well, yeah... If I were building one for my own Wolf army, it would obviously have a pair of these in front instead...

 WallaceMerrett wrote:
GW have put up another set of Duncan Rhodes "how-to paint" videos for the Stormfang Gunship

Part 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IuOh4EMh0Y

Part 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBWDYzMYo2w

Part 3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPqX5qbSET8

I haven't watched them through yet but hopefully some nice up close shots of the assembled model in there

You should watch them before assembling the model, he gives some good tips on the sub assemblies and glues.

 insaniak wrote:

 pretre wrote:

I think it'll be easy enough to put any manner of different beast in the front...

Well, yeah... If I were building one for my own Wolf army, it would obviously have a pair of these in front instead...

That would be excellent!

I think Logan will be important not just because of the model but because of all the modelling possibilities.

 insaniak wrote:
Found on WargamerAU

Nice to see some Wolf Guard with The Great Wolf's heraldry on them, the one on the left even looks like he has the original Grey from Logan's original heraldry.

I think he will look good, but why oh why does the belt have some garish yellow on it we will likely never know...

Edit: Got my left and right confused, school boy error!

Grimnar and his wolves look great. Shoulda left the chariot out of the kit though.

 insaniak wrote:

 pretre wrote:
Soo... Supposedly we get up to 6HQs, right? And wolf lords can take the chariot?

I wanna field 6. Then 2 Minimum sized GH. Then 2 more. Muhahahahaha

Ben Hur-themed Space Wolf army in 3... 2...

Chariot race music is required during the deployment phase

 pretre wrote:
I think you're looking for the 'Is GW going under?' thread or the Annual Report thread...

Oh come off it, you know you were secretly thinking the same thing

And the Ben Hur chariot race is one of the best action sequences in movie history, imo! I would give massive props to someone doing an army of these in that theme

Logan looks epic. This is really turning out to be a great release as far as I'm concerned. A flyer that's awesome, the best Dread kit to date, and something new, original and unique in the Chariot. All it's missing is a new Ragnar/Ulric, but there's plenty of time...

So far, the only thing in don't like is the codex cover art, and even then, only because I love the old one.

I'm often critical of GW, but credit where it's due, this month's releases are great!

It's SO STUPID.

(Proceed to have 8 pages of people being insulted that I called them stupid because they like a model that is absolutely asinine.)

 Paradigm wrote:
Logan looks epic. This is really turning out to be a great release as far as I'm concerned. A flyer that's awesome, the best Dread kit to date, and something new, original and unique in the Chariot. All it's missing is a new Ragnar/Ulric, but there's plenty of time...

So far, the only thing in don't like is the codex cover art, and even then, only because I love the old one.

I'm often critical of GW, but credit where it's due, this month's releases are great!

If the rumoured rules are true too, then the Codex itself might actually be awesome too. We're really only waiting to hear whether the weaker options have been made worthwhile or if there are any major nerfs.

 RiTides wrote:

 pretre wrote:
I think you're looking for the 'Is GW going under?' thread or the Annual Report thread...

Oh come off it, you know you were secretly thinking the same thing

nope.

 Andilus Greatsword wrote:

 Paradigm wrote:
Logan looks epic. This is really turning out to be a great release as far as I'm concerned. A flyer that's awesome, the best Dread kit to date, and something new, original and unique in the Chariot. All it's missing is a new Ragnar/Ulric, but there's plenty of time...

So far, the only thing in don't like is the codex cover art, and even then, only because I love the old one.

I'm often critical of GW, but credit where it's due, this month's releases are great!

If the rumoured rules are true too, then the Codex itself might actually be awesome too. We're really only waiting to hear whether the weaker options have been made worthwhile or if there are any major nerfs.

To be honest, that doesn't bother me so much. A) I hardly get to play these days, and B) I'd run Wolves even if they were the worst army out there. But yeah, the codex rumours do sound solid, and as long as I can keep P/ccw/bolter, which pics would indicate I can, I'll be happy.

On an unrelated note, I just found an old white lion chariot on my shelf, and now find myself wondering if plasticard, green stuff and bits might get me a Loganmobile for free...

$30 for a single pose Grimnar in plastic. Now add sled and wolves?

I'm betting $65USD for that model.

Hey, thats cheap for a LoW. Haha