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 Hulksmash wrote:
3x10 GH's in Pods w/2 Melta, WG & Combi
2x6 TWC w/2 Shields & 1 PF

It's only 1235....

That's plenty of points left over for characters and other support.

Not a terrible start, but I think there is more effective ways of using points. For example, one less TWC in each squad and more Shields and weapons. I'm contemplating blood claws over GH to save more points. Maybe herald as the HQ

 Hulksmash wrote:
3x10 GH's in Pods w/2 Melta, WG & Combi
2x6 TWC w/2 Shields & 1 PF

It's only 1235....

That's plenty of points left over for characters and other support.

Add in 2xIP with TWC = 210.
They can tank each squad.
1435.
Harald Deathwolf = 190

1625.

Iron priest with thunderwolf mounts is 105 now?

 pretre wrote:

 Hulksmash wrote:
3x10 GH's in Pods w/2 Melta, WG & Combi
2x6 TWC w/2 Shields & 1 PF

It's only 1235....

That's plenty of points left over for characters and other support.

Add in 2xIP with TWC = 210.
They can tank each squad.
1435.
Harald Deathwolf = 190

1625.

Plenty of room for some MURDERRRRR

Don't forget

MURDERFANG in a DP = 170

Vernerable Dread with storm shield and power axe in a DP = 180pts

that's a pretty neat 2000 point list.... could probably squeeze it into an 1850 as needed.

I need more TWC

 pizzaguardian wrote:
Iron priest with thunderwolf mounts is 105 now?

Yep and they get a second wound from TWC.

 pretre wrote:

 pizzaguardian wrote:
Iron priest with thunderwolf mounts is 105 now?

Yep and they get a second wound from TWC.

Can he still take Cyberwolves?

 Anpu42 wrote:

 pretre wrote:

 pizzaguardian wrote:
Iron priest with thunderwolf mounts is 105 now?

Yep and they get a second wound from TWC.

Can he still take Cyberwolves?

That I don't know, but right now they are Independent Characters. Which is awesome!

So basically for 55 points you can add a 2+/Thunderhammer to any unit and for 105 you can have a 2+, 2 wound, TH for your TWC unit.

If he still has servo arm, that means 2+1 attack base since they are both specialist weapon

If Thunderwolves actually do cost LESS than Nob Bikers, that just makes me want to flip the table.

A lot of the advance rules I'm reading seem fairly balanced, but some stuff just makes my head spin.

Are Basic TWC still two wound models?

I wish Mythicast still made their TWC, way better looking than GW's. Even if they were made of crappy resin.

Justyn wrote:
Are Basic TWC still two wound models?

Yes.

 pretre wrote:


So basically for 55 points you can add a 2+/Thunderhammer to any unit and for 105 you can have a 2+, 2 wound, TH for your TWC unit.

That is a really good idea.

Now if only they would release a plastic Iron Priest kit! Unless I'm missing an easy substitute for the servo arm, which is possible since I haven't ever looked into it.

Other than the pilot of the new flier, I guess the rumors of the Iron Priest is looking to be slim chance now, but crossing my fingers.

Murrdox wrote:
If Thunderwolves actually do cost LESS than Nob Bikers, that just makes me want to flip the table.

Well if that upsets you, I could only imagine how you feel when you play against Necrons using 35ppm wraiths.

Thank you

 Bulldogging wrote:

 pretre wrote:


So basically for 55 points you can add a 2+/Thunderhammer to any unit and for 105 you can have a 2+, 2 wound, TH for your TWC unit.

That is a really good idea.

Now if only they would release a plastic Iron Priest kit! Unless I'm missing an easy substitute for the servo arm, which is possible since I haven't ever looked into it.

Other than the pilot of the new flier, I guess the rumors of the Iron Priest is looking to be slim chance now, but crossing my fingers.

I plan on doing a little bit of magic with the Space Wolf box, using the Wolf Head for Iron Priests (I haven't used it elsewhere), Maybe some Mech Shoulders and doing a different color scheme (Black base instead of SW Grey) for their armor to represent Iron Priests.

OP: May I politely ask that we wrap the first post entries in individual spoiler tags to make sifting through the information easier?

Thanks for maintaining the thread, sir!

Hmmm, I'm trying to think up a suitable nonorganic replacement for the TWC, but the best I came up with so far is converting some Castellax into proto-dreadnaught shells used to house fallen SW that were taken by the Wulfen curse. You would not put them in a traditional coffin, because it's both too valuable and too slow for them, so a faster, less armoured variant would have to be devised. Of all the Chapters, I think SW would be the most likely to do such a thing. They're known technoclasts, often at odds with the followers of Mars.

Or maybe I'll just make some big werewolves and pretend it's a XIII company detachment.

Murderfang strikes me as someone's idea of:

"Hey, wouldn't it be cool to put Wolverine into a Dreadnaught!?"

Just seems a bit silly to me : /

 His Master's Voice wrote:
Of all the Chapters, I think SW would be the most likely to do such a thing. They're known technoclasts, often at odds with the followers of Mars.

And also, well known for their lack of regard for the dictates of the Codex Astartes, that would prohibit the thing you're describing. I think you're good, and it sounds like a fun modelling opportunity.

 His Master's Voice wrote:
Hmmm, I'm trying to think up a suitable nonorganic replacement for the TWC, but the best I came up with so far is converting some Castellax into proto-dreadnaught shells used to house fallen SW that were taken by the Wulfen curse. You would not put them in a traditional coffin, because it's both too valuable and too slow for them, so a faster, less armoured variant would have to be devised. Of all the Chapters, I think SW would be the most likely to do such a thing. They're known technoclasts, often at odds with the followers of Mars.

Or you could take some Penitent Engines (remove flamers, replace ecclesiarchial bling with wolfish bling) with a Wulfen strapped on it.

Explanation would be, that the Wolves don't want to deny their former comrade a honourable death (or fulfilling his destiny/saga) - but the Wulfen is now too insane to do something useful on the battlefield (or something that wouldn't bring his brothers at risk - maybe he would attack them too). So the Iron Priests sometimes use dread engines they partially controll to bring the lost souls into the battle. That's a kinda cynical interpretation of honour (would fit with 40k) and I guess several Space Wolves would abhor such a practice. But I think the Chapter is diverse enough for a lot of strange things.

 His Master's Voice wrote:
Hmmm, I'm trying to think up a suitable nonorganic replacement for the TWC, but the best I came up with so far is converting some Castellax into proto-dreadnaught shells used to house fallen SW that were taken by the Wulfen curse. You would not put them in a traditional coffin, because it's both too valuable and too slow for them, so a faster, less armoured variant would have to be devised. Of all the Chapters, I think SW would be the most likely to do such a thing. They're known technoclasts, often at odds with the followers of Mars.

Or maybe I'll just make some big werewolves and pretend it's a XIII company detachment.

This is to easy!
Units of Logan chariots -driven by wulfen servitors!

I do like the idea of a unit of logan chariots as TWC.... A little costly though....

 Khaine's Wrath wrote:
I do like the idea of a unit of logan chariots as TWC.... A little costly though....

But think of all the narratives that will be forged!

 Khaine's Wrath wrote:
I do like the idea of a unit of logan chariots as TWC.... A little costly though....

Well, I guess you could wolf up a few FW jetbikes instead. Though I guess the WTF factor wouldn't really be there.

 pizzaguardian wrote:
If he still has servo arm, that means 2+1 attack base since they are both specialist weapon

Funny as this came up in a game last night. Opponent tried to tell me the servo arm was a either/or attack. I told him it was a additional attack at initive 1.

Did they change it or am i wrong?

 Uriels_Flame wrote:

 pizzaguardian wrote:
If he still has servo arm, that means 2+1 attack base since they are both specialist weapon

Funny as this came up in a game last night. Opponent tried to tell me the servo arm was a either/or attack. I told him it was a additional attack at initive 1.

Did they change it or am i wrong?

Newer marine codices now list servo arms as a X2 strength ap 2 unwieldy specialist weapon. Older codices still have the 1 attack at init 1 rule.

I converted vypers as my TWC before they came out.

Everyone thought they were pretty fun. Might take them back to the conversion board.

So apparently drop pods are a fast attack choice... Which mean battle brother squads in drop pods...

 pretre wrote:
So apparently drop pods are a fast attack choice... Which mean battle brother squads in drop pods...

Can you clarify? Do you mean empty pods alone are available in the FA slot?