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I did a search on here but, can't seem to find a list of

Forgeworld GW approved unit list.

If anyone can point me in the right direction I would appreciate it.


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Far as I know there isn't one.

GW generally states that all FW models are legal in the game; although in practice most player groups default to asking your opponents permission in much the same way that you'd agree to use an expansion rules set during the game.


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Not sure exactly what you're looking for (what is a 'GW approved' list?), but there is this:

http://www.dakkadakka.com/wiki/en/Forge_World_and_Apocalypse_Rules_Index



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The list is currently "everything FW publishes". Years ago there might have been some cases where older units from the "with opponent's permission only" era hadn't been updated, but that isn't true anymore. You might be able to find some obscure unit that isn't approved if you look hard enough, but as a general rule everything is legal.

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 yakface wrote:

Not sure exactly what you're looking for (what is a 'GW approved' list?), but there is this:

http://www.dakkadakka.com/wiki/en/Forge_World_and_Apocalypse_Rules_Index




Well all it says is the units have to be GW approved. Only list I found was

http://www.scribd.com/doc/118224164/FW-Approved


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There was a list of LoW approved units which is what he may be looking for wasnt there?
   
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 Peregrine wrote:
The list is currently "everything FW publishes". Years ago there might have been some cases where older units from the "with opponent's permission only" era hadn't been updated, but that isn't true anymore. You might be able to find some obscure unit that isn't approved if you look hard enough, but as a general rule everything is legal.


Ok that makes sense. I was looking for a list. Or am I just picking out of the FW books with the stamp on it.


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 Sammoth wrote:
Well all it says is the units have to be GW approved. Only list I found was

http://www.scribd.com/doc/118224164/FW-Approved


All WHAT said?

Where is this request for GW Approved FW units coming from?




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 Swastakowey wrote:
There was a list of LoW approved units which is what he may be looking for wasnt there?


That list is on FW's downloads page:

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Downloads/Product/PDF/L/lordsofwar.pdf

But, of course, it only deals with LoW, not any other Imoerial Armour units.



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 yakface wrote:
 Sammoth wrote:
Well all it says is the units have to be GW approved. Only list I found was

http://www.scribd.com/doc/118224164/FW-Approved


All WHAT said?

Where is this request for GW Approved FW units coming from?




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There was a list of LoW approved units which is what he may be looking for wasnt there?




That list is on FW's downloads page:

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Downloads/Product/PDF/L/lordsofwar.pdf



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Do you mean the "40k approved" stamp?

   
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 Sammoth wrote:
Ok that makes sense. I was looking for a list. Or am I just picking out of the FW books with the stamp on it.


There's no list or picking out books required because every current FW book has the stamp, and everything in those books is "approved". The closest thing you will find to an exception to the rule is a few Apocalypse formations and similar rules that are explicitly Apocalypse-only, but all of the superheavies and gargantuan creatures are LOW options for the appropriate armies. What you're asking is the equivalent of "where's the list of which units from the space marine codex are 'GW approved'?".

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FW is a GW subsidiary. GW's never going to say "you can't use this forge world unit" because that would cut into their own profits.

this is doubly true in the "USE WHAT YOU LIKE" era of 7th edition

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 Sigvatr wrote:
Do you mean the "40k approved" stamp?


Yep for tournaments. Sorry if I didn't make myself clear.


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 Peregrine wrote:
 Sammoth wrote:
Ok that makes sense. I was looking for a list. Or am I just picking out of the FW books with the stamp on it.


There's no list or picking out books required because every current FW book has the stamp, and everything in those books is "approved". The closest thing you will find to an exception to the rule is a few Apocalypse formations and similar rules that are explicitly Apocalypse-only, but all of the superheavies and gargantuan creatures are LOW options for the appropriate armies. What you're asking is the equivalent of "where's the list of which units from the space marine codex are 'GW approved'?".



Ok that clears things up a bit.

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 Sammoth wrote:
Yep for tournaments. Sorry if I didn't make myself clear.


The rule is that everything FW publishes with current (7th edition compatible) rules is legal in the standard game. The person running the tournament may have their own rules for determining what is legal, in which case you will need to ask that person instead of random strangers on a forum.

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 Peregrine wrote:
 Sammoth wrote:
Yep for tournaments. Sorry if I didn't make myself clear.


The rule is that everything FW publishes with current (7th edition compatible) rules is legal in the standard game. The person running the tournament may have their own rules for determining what is legal, in which case you will need to ask that person instead of random strangers on a forum.


Well there is a list that's why I asked. I posted the list in an above link.

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The idea that the stamps in the newer Imperial Armour books that says '40k' or 'Apocalypse' is some sort of 'approved' stamp is a complete misnomer.

Many years ago, GW used to put out rules that were marked with a stamp as 'trial' (and Forgeworld still does it with their 'experimental' rules stamp) and then they had chapter approved rules articles that were stamped with a 'approved' stamp to let you know those rules were 'official' as compared to their trial rules.

The stamps used in the current Forgeworld books are not 'approved' stamps, they are stamps letting you know quickly and easily which units are usable in all types of 40k games (the '40K' stamp) and those that are only useable in Apocalypse games (the 'Apocalypse' stamp)...although now most of those 'Apoclaypse' units are also useable in regular 40K games as a Lord of War (but that's a whole other deal).

The point is, FW books containing units with the '40K' stamp are no more official than the FW books containing units without such a stamp...you just have to look harder in those books to figure out which units are '40K' and which units are 'Apocalypse' because they don't have an easy to spot 'stamp' to tell you.

All Imperial Armor rules are considered 'approved' except for those downloadable rules on their website marked 'experimental', with the proviso that Forge World recommends you let your opponent know ahead of time that you will be playing with an Imperial Armour unit and that they're down for that.

Of course, FW constantly revises the rules for the same units over and over and over again as they put out new books, so the list I provided in my first reply lets you know which book the most current rules for any given Imperial Armour unit can be found.


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The point being, outside of house rules, everything FW produces is legal in a 40K game. FW products are GW products, designed for use in the 40K franchise.

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 yakface wrote:

The idea that the stamps in the newer Imperial Armour books that says '40k' or 'Apocalypse' is some sort of 'approved' stamp is a complete misnomer.

Many years ago, GW used to put out rules that were marked with a stamp as 'trial' (and Forgeworld still does it with their 'experimental' rules stamp) and then they had chapter approved rules articles that were stamped with a 'approved' stamp to let you know those rules were 'official' as compared to their trial rules.

The stamps used in the current Forgeworld books are not 'approved' stamps, they are stamps letting you know quickly and easily which units are usable in all types of 40k games (the '40K' stamp) and those that are only useable in Apocalypse games (the 'Apocalypse' stamp)...although now most of those 'Apoclaypse' units are also useable in regular 40K games as a Lord of War (but that's a whole other deal).

The point is, FW books containing units with the '40K' stamp are no more official than the FW books containing units without such a stamp...you just have to look harder in those books to figure out which units are '40K' and which units are 'Apocalypse' because they don't have an easy to spot 'stamp' to tell you.

All Imperial Armor rules are considered 'approved' except for those downloadable rules on their website marked 'experimental', with the proviso that Forge World recommends you let your opponent know ahead of time that you will be playing with an Imperial Armour unit and that they're down for that.

Of course, FW constantly revises the rules for the same units over and over and over again as they put out new books, so the list I provided in my first reply lets you know which book the most current rules for any given Imperial Armour unit can be found.



Thank You for the detailed explanation of it.


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The point being, outside of house rules, everything FW produces is legal in a 40K game. FW products are GW products, designed for use in the 40K franchise.


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 Sammoth wrote:
Well there is a list that's why I asked. I posted the list in an above link.


The list doesn't tell you which rules are legal, since every unit/army list/etc is legal. What it actually tells you is which source contains the current rules for each unit/army list/etc that FW publishes. So, for example, I know that my Malcador is "GW approved" as a LOW choice for my IG army regardless of what book the rules are found in. What the list tells me is that the current rules are in IA:Apocalypse, and therefore the rules in my copy of IA1(2nd edition) are obsolete.

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Just want to point out again that the stamps in the Imperial Armour books do not say 'approved' anywhere.

They simply say 'Warhammer 40,000' or 'Apocalypse'.

The idea that the stamps somehow invoke 'approved' status (as indicated in that list you linked to) is a misnomer that many people continue to improperly spread.



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 Sammoth wrote:
 Peregrine wrote:
 Sammoth wrote:
Yep for tournaments. Sorry if I didn't make myself clear.


The rule is that everything FW publishes with current (7th edition compatible) rules is legal in the standard game. The person running the tournament may have their own rules for determining what is legal, in which case you will need to ask that person instead of random strangers on a forum.


Well there is a list that's why I asked. I posted the list in an above link.


the other place to look is the 7th ed rule book under Army selection ( i think it was having a mental blank and cant find my ipad haha) , and it says that in 7th you can use ANY models/rules Published by GW, be it WD, Dataslates or any other GW source. FW being GW is allowed.
Now if for Competition, refer to the TO as he/she can cherry pick whatever rules they like.

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 yakface wrote:

Just want to point out again that the stamps in the Imperial Armour books do not say 'approved' anywhere.

They simply say 'Warhammer 40,000' or 'Apocalypse'.

The idea that the stamps somehow invoke 'approved' status (as indicated in that list you linked to) is a misnomer that many people continue to improperly spread.






I hate to argue, but when the rulebook clearly states that it is 'official', how is it not approved?
I mean, I can see how it can be read to imply that you may not use it in an Unbound list, but not approved?
I'm sorry, but I just don't see it.


 
   
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 YFNPsycho wrote:




I hate to argue, but when the rulebook clearly states that it is 'official', how is it not approved?
I mean, I can see how it can be read to imply that you may not use it in an Unbound list, but not approved?
I'm sorry, but I just don't see it.



I think you're missing my point (and thinking I'm somehow saying the opposite). If you read the blurb that you posted in full, you'll see what I mean (emphasis added by me):

"As with all our models these should be considered 'official'..."


Some people tend to act/believe as though the presence of the stamp is what makes the rules 'official' or 'approved', but as you can see, that is not the case. All of their models are considered official/approved.

The ONLY thing the stamp does is to identify whether the unit is for standard 40k or Apocalypse, not that it is any more 'official' or 'approved' than older Forgeworld books where they hadn't started putting 'stamps' on stuff yet.


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