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Ok so im wanting to start a am/IK army im trying to decide what is the sweet spot for how many knights you should take. Depending on how many knights what Astra militarum units you find best for support and or shore up the weakness of Knights.

Seems there a few ways to help them, Bodies with platoons or Target saturation with more Vehicles whats everyones expereince and opioin on whats best.

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2-3 knights would be my reccomendation. go with chimera equippped infantry platoons. and then maybe a vendetta or valkyrie.

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BrianDavion wrote:
2-3 knights would be my reccomendation. go with chimera equippped infantry platoons. and then maybe a vendetta or valkyrie.


I'll second that. Air domination is key because you do not want a storm raven with TL Lascannons and Multi-Meltas zooming behind your dudes and shooting lasers at them without their shields to protect them.

high mobility anti armor is your #1 enemy

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At 1850 i can fit 3 knights with 2 vendettas and troops Know which is better platoons just sitting in the back or vetrens in chimeras to move forward also? If you go platoons or at least 1 platoon i can have flamers inside the vendettas to help claim far objectives.

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I've been thinking Vets in Valks to support my Knights by grabbing objects and being OS. I want to stay fast, but be somewhat competitive.

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that may be the way to go but i think the vendetta offers more anti air and you can throw in ur platoon command squad to flammer people off objectives but vets in valks i may have to think about that also.

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I find that valks over vendettas never really pull there weight..

It really comes down to the twinlinking for me.

Depending on the points id go with Vendettas 1 Platoon with 2 troops and 1 SWS to chuck into the vendettas (Chuck the PCS and SWT with probably flamers into the vendettas) and 1 vet squad with forward sentry just chillin back.

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And yet another thread is hijacked for Unit to ask for the same advice, receive the same answers and make the same excuses.

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I would go three knights, so you can get the lance formation. Re-rolls are no joke as well as more hammers

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Well, I'm more of a theme player, and I want to field a bunch of a Knights supported by an Air Cavalry, kind of like helicopters dropping troops off.

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The plan was three where can i find the rules on the lance formation. Found it Wow They are very strong indeed,
Their special rule is that so long as a Knight is within 3" of another Knight in the Formation, they can reroll their Ion Shield saves, reroll their charge distance and get D3 HoW hits

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If you want to roll air cav with knights, take veterans with Grenadiers and Demolitions and a CCS. Take Valks to transport the Veteran squads (also helps with hordes with those bolters, ML, and rocket pods) and take a Vendetta squadron (stick the CCS in one).

You could probably get away with 1850 with a setup like that.

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 Frankenberry wrote:
If you want to roll air cav with knights, take veterans with Grenadiers and Demolitions and a CCS. Take Valks to transport the Veteran squads (also helps with hordes with those bolters, ML, and rocket pods) and take a Vendetta squadron (stick the CCS in one).

You could probably get away with 1850 with a setup like that.


That's pretty much what I was thinking. The AA, speed, and super-scoring add to the Knights' resilience.

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So im thinking along the lines of

2 errants
1 paladin

Commisor or lord commisor
PCS 2 flamer
Vendetta
20+ conscript
2 platons autocannons
Valkeyie
Veterns not sure which weapons or docterines on them yet
Aegies defense line.

So With the aegis i just plant my platoons or my conscripts behind it and go to ground for the 2 up for tuff to kill objective secrued troops. I have two fast anti air that also have objective secrued troops for late game contest and grabs. What you all think Competitive or still needs work.

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Now with FW seeming to be accepted i Could try something with Sabre platforms for AA and possibly Thudd guns for some hurt

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Now with FW seeming to be accepted i Could try something with Sabre platforms for AA and possibly Thudd guns for some hurt

Sabre Platforms are good for the AA mount, and are basically your own mini Valkyrie but tougher, only easier to hit. Stick them behind an ADL and watch aircron players cry.

Alternatively take a couple of Lightnings, they're fragile but powerful AA, and can put some hurt on tanks while they're at it.

Or yano, just an ADL with a Quad Gun with your Company Commander mounting it is a solid combo.

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Keep in mind that people will not like playing you with 3 Knights with multiple vendettas...

 
   
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This is not a fun list competitive have no friends after words kinda list any have any uses for rough riders i just cant see them not dieing super fast only being 10 of them

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