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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/07/28 15:44:55
Subject: Mega Armor, worth the pros and cons ?
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So i have been toying with various ways to out fit mmy warboss. I don' run bikes (don't even own any) so putting him on a bike has limited uses. So i started looking at mega armor.
Pros:
- 2+ armor save. Combined with lukky stikk, this is huge.
- move and shoot heavy weapons. Other than lootas and mek guns, no benefit to any front line unit. Sad that mega armor nobs in particular down have a heavy weapon option.
Cons:
- Can't overwatch. This goes for any unit he joins. Which could be not that big of loss depending on unit.
- Can't run. This goes for any unit he joins. This is a huge down side to me. It basically nullifies his Waaaagh for him and any unit he joins.
So other than lukky stikk , is mega armor worth it on a warboss ?
I play mostly foot slogger armies, but occasionally I throw in some trucks and a BW.
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- Neva trust a Deff Skull , gitz just wanna take yur lootz
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/07/28 16:11:47
Subject: Mega Armor, worth the pros and cons ?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Its realy depends against who and hou you use it. I played only 1 game with him in 7 edition so far against space wolves and lucky stick is just amazing ! i had him in a unit of 10 boyz in trukk. After the game i think hes in his best in a unit of 18 shoota boyz in a bw to soak up damage and planty boyz to loock out sir. I realy mised boyz on who i can loock out ap 2 shots( Cyborg body nerf is so painful :( ) . If you go for foot sloging boss in 30 boyz or so id say throw a painboy instead of mega armour in that unit itl be alot better! Also you might want to take a loock at snikroot as an option i think if il ewer run a foot sloging mob of 30 boyz hed lead it since fearles and fnp! good luck WAAAAAAAAGHHH!!!!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/07/28 17:05:31
Subject: Mega Armor, worth the pros and cons ?
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Ork Admiral Kroozin Da Kosmos on Da Hulk
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I'd simply ignore the heavy weapon part. Thinking that being able to ignore a restriction being better than not having a restriction in the first place is somewhat flawed logic.
For the MA Warboss has done awesome things, like winning assaults by landslide without losing a single boy, since he took all the wounds. He also eats up overwatch and wall of death, can unattach to murder some unit which is unable to bypass his armor or tank wounds from an explosion he cause. If you really need the Waaagh! to make a charge, you can unattach the warboss before the charge and have him charge separately (or even another unit).
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7 Ork facts people always get wrong:
Ragnar did not win against Thrakka, but suffered two crushing defeats within a few days of each other.
A lasgun is powerful enough to sever an ork's appendage or head in a single, well aimed shot.
Orks meks have a better understanding of electrics and mechanics than most Tech Priests.
Orks actually do not think that purple makes them harder to see. The joke was made canon by Alex Stewart's Caphias Cain books.
Gharkull Blackfang did not even come close to killing the emperor.
Orks can be corrupted by chaos, but few of them have any interest in what chaos offers.
Orks do not have the power of believe. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/07/28 18:51:17
Subject: Mega Armor, worth the pros and cons ?
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Yellin' Yoof on a Scooter
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One of the benefits of Mega Armor (In some rare cases) is that a unit they are attached to counts as not having moved. For heavy weapons like Lootas that have great range this is meaningless, but I for one really want to try Flash Gitz in a Battlewagon and I can make them all fire at BS3 thanks to a Big Mek or Warboss in Mega Armor plus Gitfindas. They aren't too shabby in assault either, especially if I toss in a Killsaw Mek for when the Warboss bites the dust.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/07/28 19:01:25
Subject: Mega Armor, worth the pros and cons ?
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Ork Admiral Kroozin Da Kosmos on Da Hulk
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You might want to check the rules for Slow and Purposeful before doing that. It doesn't affect assault weapons at all, even if it affected the gitfinda.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2014/07/28 19:02:07
7 Ork facts people always get wrong:
Ragnar did not win against Thrakka, but suffered two crushing defeats within a few days of each other.
A lasgun is powerful enough to sever an ork's appendage or head in a single, well aimed shot.
Orks meks have a better understanding of electrics and mechanics than most Tech Priests.
Orks actually do not think that purple makes them harder to see. The joke was made canon by Alex Stewart's Caphias Cain books.
Gharkull Blackfang did not even come close to killing the emperor.
Orks can be corrupted by chaos, but few of them have any interest in what chaos offers.
Orks do not have the power of believe. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/07/28 21:15:50
Subject: Mega Armor, worth the pros and cons ?
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Big Mek in Kustom Dragster with Soopa-Gun
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Slow and Purposeful doesnt count the unit as not moving, its worded to bypass the snapfiring of heavy, ordnance, or rapidfire and allow charging even though said weapons deny charge.
They do not count as having not moved. It specifically identifies what type of guns do what. Think that all guns are Assault guns if you are relentless or SnP, since thats basically what its doing.
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An ork with an idea tends to end with a bang.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/07/29 18:57:11
Subject: Mega Armor, worth the pros and cons ?
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Growlin' Guntrukk Driver with Killacannon
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darkflame182 wrote: Also you might want to take a loock at snikroot as an option i think if il ewer run a foot sloging mob of 30 boyz hed lead it since fearles and fnp!
Snikrot is not Fearless, he has the Fear Special Rule.
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I don't write the rules. My ego just lives and dies by them one model at a time. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/07/29 20:32:15
Subject: Mega Armor, worth the pros and cons ?
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Smokin' Skorcha Driver
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Con: can't sweeping advance
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/07/29 22:14:15
Subject: Mega Armor, worth the pros and cons ?
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Ork Admiral Kroozin Da Kosmos on Da Hulk
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Ghenghis Jon wrote: darkflame182 wrote: Also you might want to take a loock at snikroot as an option i think if il ewer run a foot sloging mob of 30 boyz hed lead it since fearles and fnp!
Snikrot is not Fearless, he has the Fear Special Rule.
He probably meant Grotznik
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7 Ork facts people always get wrong:
Ragnar did not win against Thrakka, but suffered two crushing defeats within a few days of each other.
A lasgun is powerful enough to sever an ork's appendage or head in a single, well aimed shot.
Orks meks have a better understanding of electrics and mechanics than most Tech Priests.
Orks actually do not think that purple makes them harder to see. The joke was made canon by Alex Stewart's Caphias Cain books.
Gharkull Blackfang did not even come close to killing the emperor.
Orks can be corrupted by chaos, but few of them have any interest in what chaos offers.
Orks do not have the power of believe. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/07/29 22:22:54
Subject: Re:Mega Armor, worth the pros and cons ?
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Slaanesh Chosen Marine Riding a Fiend
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Mega Armor is a strange beast indeed. Its one of those blessings but curses. It can grant a whole new level of awesome to our Warboss/Nobz, but it can also really make them less than optimal units. The bottom line is, that they NEED transportation. Especially MANZ, since S8 still ID them. Since a MAWarboss will slow his entire unit down, it makes footslogger boyz all that much more easier for a gunline to shoot down. Even using him to tank hits can be risky, even WITH Lucky Stikk, though LS makes it more viable than before.
But once the MAWarboss/Nobz get into combat...there isn't much anyone can do to stop them from killing EVERYTHING. I run a lot of footslog because I have the bodies to do it, but I always run several rides for the important stuff, like Manz or MAWarboss and his crew to run up the field, and then get to work without worrying about being kited by the gunline.
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