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Can I Combined Arms Detachment both the Ork Codex & Ghazghull supplement together?

Meaning have a 1 CAD from Codex: Orks + 1 CAD from Waaagh Ghazghull Supplement and together still be battle forged.


I've heard yes, but I don't have my book on me to check for sure.

Yes, that would be battleforged. Then you pick a warlord from one of those two, and it is then your primary detachment

Battle-Forged Armies are those which form into Detachments, it matters not where the Detachments come from just that the Units are formed into them.

I guess the main question is that both the ghazghull supplement & the Ork Codex have their own FoC, but my understanding is that I can use CAD instead if I want for each book.

Hope that isn't too confusing.

Cad is an option, unless it tells you otherwise

One of the misconceptions we keep encountering with Detachments is the concept that they are somehow linked together, that taking one Detachment will change how other Detachments in your army are selected or function.
Each Detachment is independent to any other, unless they specifically state otherwise of course.

Ok the next part of the question: Can I take a Ghazghull supplement detachment + Ork Codex detachment together?

Some people have said yes, and some say no. I don't have my book with me to see how that reads.

Short of some unknown Restriction in the Ghazghull Supplement, I can't think of why they would be forbidden from being fielded together in a single Army.
By Default, permission to take any number or combination of Detachment's exists.

The ghaz supplement is its own detachment. It is not a CAD and will not have objective secured.

You can field that detachment along side a regular CAD, but not as part of a CAD.

 BarBoBot wrote:
The ghaz supplement is its own detachment. It is not a CAD and will not have objective secured.

You can field that detachment along side a regular CAD, but not as part of a CAD.

I thought any army can have a CAD? Does the Ghazzy Supp specifically say it can't? I know it has it's own FoC, but I always understood it that I could still have CAD too.

An army is made up from as many detachments as you choose.

Each detachment in your army is separate from the other detachments.

CAD detachments and allied detachments give objective secured, other detachments such as the ghazzy or the tau fire base cadre are separate detachments with their own rules.

You are not given permission to combine 2 detachments into 1. You can have your ghaz detachment, and also a CAD, but the ghaz will not be part of the CAD.

mrfantastical wrote:

 BarBoBot wrote:
The ghaz supplement is its own detachment. It is not a CAD and will not have objective secured.

You can field that detachment along side a regular CAD, but not as part of a CAD.

I thought any army can have a CAD? Does the Ghazzy Supp specifically say it can't? I know it has it's own FoC, but I always understood it that I could still have CAD too.

It doesn't have "it's own FOC", it has it's own Detachment/Formations (FOC is part of a Detachment).

The Ghaz Supplement isn't an Army. You can't just "take a Ghaz Army". A CAD is not a Detachment or Formation from that supplement, and the bonuses require it be a Detachment or Firmation from the Supplement.

 grendel083 wrote:

mrfantastical wrote:

 BarBoBot wrote:
The ghaz supplement is its own detachment. It is not a CAD and will not have objective secured.

You can field that detachment along side a regular CAD, but not as part of a CAD.

I thought any army can have a CAD? Does the Ghazzy Supp specifically say it can't? I know it has it's own FoC, but I always understood it that I could still have CAD too.

It doesn't have "it's own FOC", it has it's own Detachment/Formations (FOC is part of a Detachment).

The Ghaz Supplement isn't an Army. You can't just "take a Ghaz Army". A CAD is not a Detachment or Formation from that supplement, and the bonuses require it be a Detachment or Firmation from the Supplement.

Ok that makes sense. Thank you.

mrfantastical wrote:
Can I Combined Arms Detachment both the Ork Codex & Ghazghull supplement together?
Meaning have a 1 CAD from Codex: Orks + 1 CAD from Waaagh Ghazghull Supplement and together still be battle forged.
I've heard yes, but I don't have my book on me to check for sure.

No.
The rules from 'Waaagh! Ghazghkull' only apply if you take a Great Waaagh! Detachment or a Formation from that book.
There is no such thing as a Waaagh! Ghazghkull-Combined Arms Detachment.

Because the moment you decide to take a CAD, you fail to meet the requirement from the supplement and thus cannot use the rules from that book.