The Final Benghazi Thread, probably

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**Ouze**

House panel: No administration wrongdoing in Benghazi attack
Carolyn Lochhead

(08-01) 11:42 PDT WASHINGTON -- The House Intelligence Committee, led by Republicans, has concluded that there was no deliberate wrongdoing by the Obama administration in the 2012 attack on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, Libya, that killed Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans, said Rep. Mike Thompson of St. Helena, the second-ranking Democrat on the committee.

The panel voted Thursday to declassify the report, the result of two years of investigation by the committee. U.S. intelligence agencies will have to approve making the report public.

Thompson said the report "confirms that no one was deliberately misled, no military assets were withheld and no stand-down order (to U.S. forces) was given."

That conflicts with accusations of administration wrongdoing voiced by Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Vista (San Diego County), whose House Government Oversight and Reform Committee has held hearings on the Benghazi attack.

Stevens, who grew up in Piedmont, and the other Americans died when Libyans attacked the consulate on Sept. 11, 2012. Among the Intelligence Committee's findings, according to Thompson:

-- Intelligence agencies were "warned about an increased threat environment, but did not have specific tactical warning of an attack before it happened."

-- "A mixed group of individuals, including those associated with al Qaeda, (Moammar) Khadafy loyalists and other Libyan militias, participated in the attack."

-- "There was no 'stand-down order' given to American personnel attempting to offer assistance that evening, no illegal activity or illegal arms transfers occurring by U.S. personnel in Benghazi, and no American was left behind."

-- The administration's process for developing "talking points" was "flawed, but the talking points reflected the conflicting intelligence assessments in the days immediately following the crisis."

Those talking points included assertions that those who attacked the compound were angered by an obscure anti-Muhammad video posted to YouTube in the U.S. There is disagreement to this day about whether that was the case.

Carolyn Lochhead is the San Francisco Chronicle's Washington correspondent. E-mail: clochhead@sfchronicle.com Twitter: @carolynlochhead

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**whembly**

Heh...

You rang?

I'd still want the Trey Gowdy Committee to move forward as it has more statutory authority than the Intelligence Committee.

**d-usa**

Why have truth when you can have truthiness...

**Frazzled**

Benghazi, the Zombie that wouldn't die!

**d-usa**

So we have:

The Republican led House Intelligence Committee, the Republican led United States House Committee on Armed Service, as well as the United States Senate Select Committee on Intelligence all found the same thing? Shocking.

whembly wrote:

I'd still want the Trey Gowdy Committee to move forward as it has more statutory authority than the Intelligence Committee.

Say what now?

**whembly**

d-usa wrote:
So we have:

The Republican led House Intelligence Committee, the Republican led United States House Committee on Armed Service, as well as the United States Senate Select Committee on Intelligence all found the same thing? Shocking.

whembly wrote:

I'd still want the Trey Gowdy Committee to move forward as it has more statutory authority than the Intelligence Committee.

Say what now?

Primarily it's the formal structure between how "Select Committees" are created compared to the "Standing Committees".

Ie, Select Committees temporarily formed for specific purposes, and as such are given wider latitude to investigate.

*I'm stuck in meetings, but there's an ABC or Washington Post that explained the differences really well... I'll try to re-post it later on tonight.

**Ahtman**

d-usa wrote:
Say what now?

He said it is a partisan outrage issue, and that he will always find an excuse to dismiss evidence that detracts from being mad at the President.

**Dreadclaw69**

I'm glad that this matter appears concluded, and that there has been a full investigation.

**d-usa**

Dreadclaw69 wrote:
I'm glad that this matter appears concluded, and that there has been a full investigation.

I'm sure this will settle the dust and answer all the question just like the Warren Commission Report did all those years ago

**Dreadclaw69**

I seen no mention of a grassy knoll

**Ahtman**

Dreadclaw69 wrote:
I seen no mention of a grassy knoll

What about a gassy gnoll?

**Dreadclaw69**

Ahtman wrote:
Dreadclaw69 wrote:
I seen no mention of a grassy knoll

What about a gassy gnoll?

Dog farts are vile, I'm just imagining the stench a gassy one of these would emit

**ScootyPuffJunior**

House Intelligence Committee wrote:No administration wrongdoing in Benghazi attack.

**Frazzled**

Ahtman wrote:
Dreadclaw69 wrote:
I seen no mention of a grassy knoll

What about a gassy gnoll?

Someone called my name?

**Ouze**

As an ex-Everquest player, I must have killed thousands of Gnolls, none grassy.

**Jihadin**

Ouze wrote:
As an ex-Everquest player, I must have killed thousands of Gnolls, none grassy.

Espacially that whiney Fippy Darkpaw

**dogma**

whembly wrote:

Primarily it's the formal structure between how "Select Committees" are created compared to the "Standing Committees".

Ie, Select Committees temporarily formed for specific purposes, and as such are given wider latitude to investigate.

That's not strictly true. While select committees are generally convened to investigate or review matters which extend beyond the authority, willingness, or ability of a standing committee; they don't get any wider latitude than a standing committee with respect to the organizations they investigate or oversee. Indeed, one could argue they have less freedom to act, as generally speaking select committees can't present legislation.

Its also worth noting that the intelligence committees in both houses are technically select committees, muddying the waters even further.

**sebster**

So multiple house committees led by Republicans state there was no mistake here, and instead of people saying that maybe this was also a whole lot of smoke and no fire and that they got this one wrong, instead it becomes time to talk about the last, final committee in to Benghazi that hasn't released its report, in the hope that they'll keep the flame burning.

Also, Trey Gowdy has the worst haircut in US politics.

**marv335**

**KalashnikovMarine**

d-usa wrote:
Dreadclaw69 wrote:
I'm glad that this matter appears concluded, and that there has been a full investigation.

I'm sure this will settle the dust and answer all the question just like the Warren Commission Report did all those years ago

*insert three paragraphs of various nonsense on the JFK assassination here*

**Do_I_Not_Like_That**

To my American brothers: please, just let it go. In ten years time, you'll still be arguing about Benghazi.

**Frazzled**

Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:
To my American brothers: please, just let it go. In ten years time, you'll still be arguing about Benghazi.

My Wife and daughter went to see Paramour and all I got was BenGhazied.

**Easy E**

IN a somewhat realted story. Has the guy we nabbed in Libya gone to trial or had any legal movement yet? I haven't heard about it in a while.

**Soladrin**

After all this time I still have no idea, at all, what Benghazi is, where it is, and what happened there...

**whembly**

Soladrin wrote:
After all this time I still have no idea, at all, what Benghazi is, where it is, and what happened there...

Exactly!

**Easy E**

Benghazi is the troll that waits under the bed of Hillary Clinton to try and scare her away from running for President.

**Ouze**

sebster wrote:
Also, Trey Gowdy has the worst haircut in US politics.

Though not a current US politician, James Traficant has to at least be a strong contender.

Although Mr. Gowdy wins any Draco Malfoy look-alike contest hands down.

**sebster**

Ouze wrote:
sebster wrote:
Also, Trey Gowdy has the worst haircut in US politics.

Though not a current US politician, James Traficant has to at least be a strong contender.

Although Mr. Gowdy wins any Draco Malfoy look-alike contest hands down.

That is a fine contender, I'll grant you that. I'll stick with Mr Gowdy though, because otherwise I'd have to admit I said something that was wrong, and this isn't the thread for that

**dogma**

A challenger appears:

sebster wrote:

Its not how old you are, its how old you feel.

**Jihadin**

Unsure to call it bad hair or two squirrels raping each on top