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Any guesses what the new formation will be ?

 Sigvatr wrote:

Oh, I would love to be able to remove Skyfire from my own units. Fortifications, Sentry Pylons etc.

Huh, I hadn't considered that.

Or maybe the Sentry Pylon will be put in our codex as our skyfire option, but without interceptor. >.<

Anyone have the thought that the big bad FW Pylon landing as a superheavy in the 'standard' codex?

 IHateNids wrote:
Anyone have the thought that the big bad FW Pylon landing as a superheavy in the 'standard' codex?

I would be okay with that, if GW made a plastic kit of it. I would buy, like, 3 of them.

adamsouza wrote:Any guesses what the new formation will be ?

Wraiths + a Canoptek Command Unit of some kind.

krodarklorr wrote:

 IHateNids wrote:
Anyone have the thought that the big bad FW Pylon landing as a superheavy in the 'standard' codex?

I would be okay with that, if GW made a plastic kit of it. I would buy, like, 3 of them.

There you go. Well, brass, but close enough. Just get a plastic rock.

 Furyou Miko wrote:

adamsouza wrote:Any guesses what the new formation will be ?

Wraiths + a Canoptek Command Unit of some kind.

I was hoping for endless waves of scarabs, similar to the Tyranid Formation that allows endless gaunts, by placing destroyed squads back in reserve.

As for the Necron FOC, I'd guess 6 Elite and evertyhing else at normal amounts.

I hope crossants will cost appropriately.

 koooaei wrote:
I hope crossants will cost appropriately.

I expect a good 20+ points increase, yeah. Sucks, but what's fair is fair.

 Furyou Miko wrote:

There you go. Well, brass, but close enough. Just get a plastic rock.

Exalt'd


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 krodarklorr wrote:

 koooaei wrote:
I hope crossants will cost appropriately.

I expect a good 20+ points increase, yeah. Sucks, but what's fair is fair.

Fair would be +50 points. But let's just wait and see.

morgoth wrote:

 Furyou Miko wrote:

There you go. Well, brass, but close enough. Just get a plastic rock.

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 krodarklorr wrote:

 koooaei wrote:
I hope crossants will cost appropriately.

I expect a good 20+ points increase, yeah. Sucks, but what's fair is fair.

Fair would be +50 points. But let's just wait and see.

I mena, it better gewt something extra if it goes up by 50+ points. That's 150+ points for a transport that is the only option for 90% of the codex.

 krodarklorr wrote:
I mena, it better gewt something extra if it goes up by 50+ points. That's 150+ points for a transport that is the only option for 90% of the codex.

It's 150 points for a transport that's better than every other plane in the 150 points price range, which delivers anti-vehicle troops that are cheap and hard to kill (because they come back, you have to commit more firepower oftentimes).

If it wasn't a plane, things would be very different, but as it is, it puts a huge strain on the opponent while being cheap.

It's also equivalent to other armies' flying transports, so I'd say its fair... and yes, I am a Necron player.

Especially since it's not the only option for 90% of the codex. Anything that can take a Night Scythe can also get a Veil of Darkness.

I'm more than happy to play Valkyrie prices for a Night Scythe, in any case... although I would like their special engines to be represented in the rules somehow. Even being near a flying Night Scythe is supposed to have a Brown Note effect.

 Furyou Miko wrote:
It's also equivalent to other armies' flying transports, so I'd say its fair... and yes, I am a Necron player.

Especially since it's not the only option for 90% of the codex. Anything that can take a Night Scythe can also get a Veil of Darkness.

I'm more than happy to play Valkyrie prices for a Night Scythe, in any case... although I would like their special engines to be represented in the rules somehow. Even being near a flying Night Scythe is supposed to have a Brown Note effect.

The Brown Note special rule.. can't wait for the new dex now.

Aren't there very strong 4HP ghost arks with 20 flayer shots, AV13 quantum shielding and Necron Warrior production for just 114.99 too ?

Something like that, I dunno, I don't use Warriors. :p

 Furyou Miko wrote:
Something like that, I dunno, I don't use Warriors. :p

If I could have them as troops as Eldar, I'd be using them all the time... 24" range, glance on a 6, T4S4, just 13 points and WBB ? Atarimaeda !

Yes, but my main army is Battle Sisters, and I just can't get used to a pathetic 4+ armour save. Besides, everyone having heavy bolters is just nice!

morgoth wrote:

 Furyou Miko wrote:
Something like that, I dunno, I don't use Warriors. :p

If I could have them as troops as Eldar, I'd be using them all the time... 24" range, glance on a 6, T4S4, just 13 points and WBB ? Atarimaeda !

24", shooting one shot at 18", and not charging afterwards. Can't run and shoot, and can't kill anything with an armor save as effectively. Uhhh.....?

The problem is f they are going to keep the Necrons a "shooty" army they need to give us some advantage when shooting, and not just gauss, since 90% of what we are shooting isn't vehicles. Tau get over watch and a majority of ranges greater than 24". We have almost all 24" range guns. Very little ap 3 or better. And nearly no defense in close combat. Our only advantage was MSS which are nerfed by the new challenge rules, and RP. Which only mean if your unit survives a round of combat a couple of models might get back up to die the next round. Scarabs and and Spyders are better than that and have no RP.

 NecronLord3 wrote:
The problem is f they are going to keep the Necrons a "shooty" army they need to give us some advantage when shooting, and not just gauss, since 90% of what we are shooting isn't vehicles. Tau get over watch and a majority of ranges greater than 24". We have almost all 24" range guns. Very little ap 3 or better. And nearly no defense in close combat. Our only advantage was MSS which are nerfed by the new challenge rules, and RP. Which only mean if your unit survives a round of combat a couple of models might get back up to die the next round. Scarabs and and Spyders are better than that and have no RP.

You're a bit quick to write off gauss when IK are a big pain in the butt for many armies.

Gauss might put a hull point or two on a knight. Crypteks are the only necron answer to IK unless an event actually allow the T. C'tan. Then IK aren't a threat at all.

morgoth wrote:
You're a bit quick to write off gauss when IK are a big pain in the butt for many armies.

And shouldn't exist.

 NecronLord3 wrote:
The problem is f they are going to keep the Necrons a "shooty" army they need to give us some advantage when shooting, and not just gauss, since 90% of what we are shooting isn't vehicles. Tau get over watch and a majority of ranges greater than 24". We have almost all 24" range guns. Very little ap 3 or better. And nearly no defense in close combat. Our only advantage was MSS which are nerfed by the new challenge rules, and RP. Which only mean if your unit survives a round of combat a couple of models might get back up to die the next round. Scarabs and and Spyders are better than that and have no RP.

You've read my mind, good sir. Spoken from the "heart" of a true Necron player.


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 vipoid wrote:

morgoth wrote:
You're a bit quick to write off gauss when IK are a big pain in the butt for many armies.

And shouldn't exist.

Agreed.

How about a Canoptek Super Heavy that spits out Canoptek Spyders, like Spyders spawn scarabs ?

Think about it GW, a $140 model that spawns $33 model that spawn models from a $36.25 box set.

A Spyder farm would require at least 5-14 spyders and more scarabs than I care to count

 adamsouza wrote:
How about a Canoptek Super Heavy that spits out Canoptek Spyders, like Spyders spawn scarabs ?

Think about it GW, a $140 model that spawns $33 model that spawn models from a $36.25 box set.

A Spyder farm would require at least 5-14 spyders and more scarabs than I care to count

You should work for GW lol

$140 Necron Canoptek Superheavy (Spawns Canoptek Spyders)
$50 C'tan Multipart Plastic Kit (Like Demon Prince Box)
$53 Royal Court Plastic Kit (Overlord, and 4 build your choice of Crypteks/Lords)
$60 Triarch Praetorians / Lychguard (10 model repack)
$60 Immortals / Deathmarks (10 model repack)
$60 Flayed Ones (10 models multipart plastic)
$50 Scarab Swarm (6 bases multipart plastic, like nurglings)

$49.50 Hardcover Codex
$49.50 Codex Supplement: The Dark Harvest

Lol, maybe they should make a Megalith model.

 krodarklorr wrote:
Lol, maybe they should make a Megalith model.

If they do it better suck or events will ban it.

 NecronLord3 wrote:

 krodarklorr wrote:
Lol, maybe they should make a Megalith model.

If they do it better suck or events will ban it.

Oh...I suppose that is true. Well I guess it can't spawn Destroyers or other units. >.<

As long as it spawns Spyders I'm on board