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 Asherian Command wrote:

 Ouze wrote:
We're not using that word in this thread anymore, brah.

In other news:

Ferguson Police to add dashboard camerass, vest cameras.

So are they going to keep them on or turn them off is the question.

Police really don't like getting recorded. (Chicago person here talking)

In a just world, there are no controls that allow the police to turn off the camera, and disabling it would be a job-losing tampering with evidence felony.

 Ouze wrote:
it's going to really chip away at what remaining faith I have in humanity.

Is it wrong that I laughed at your still having some?

 Ouze wrote:

 Asherian Command wrote:

 Ouze wrote:
We're not using that word in this thread anymore, brah.

In other news:

Ferguson Police to add dashboard camerass, vest cameras.

So are they going to keep them on or turn them off is the question.

Police really don't like getting recorded. (Chicago person here talking)

In a just world, there are no controls that allow the police to turn off the camera, and disabling it would be a job-losing tampering with evidence felony.

If only. IF ONLY

I mean they have watches that can tell you your heart beat and how long you have turned it off. Yet they don't have that. Interesting.

 MrDwhitey wrote:

 Ouze wrote:
it's going to really chip away at what remaining faith I have in humanity.

Is it wrong that I laughed at your still having some?

No, truthfully I'm too old to be so naive.

 Ouze wrote:
We're not using that word in this thread anymore, brah.

In other news:

Ferguson Police to add dashboard camerass, vest cameras.

FANTASTIC news.

 Dreadclaw69 wrote:

 Kilkrazy wrote:
which could excuse the apparent execution style of the multiple shooting.

"[E]xecution style" because of multiple shots? Isn't execution style usually a single shot to the head, typically from behind?

Usually, it's two bullets to the back of the head, that criss-cross, and exit the eyes... then pennies are placed over the eyes

 Ouze wrote:

 Asherian Command wrote:

 Ouze wrote:
We're not using that word in this thread anymore, brah.

In other news:

Ferguson Police to add dashboard camerass, vest cameras.

So are they going to keep them on or turn them off is the question.

Police really don't like getting recorded. (Chicago person here talking)

In a just world, there are no controls that allow the police to turn off the camera, and disabling it would be a job-losing tampering with evidence felony.

What if they have to pee?

 whembly wrote:

 Ouze wrote:

 Asherian Command wrote:

 Ouze wrote:
We're not using that word in this thread anymore, brah.

In other news:

Ferguson Police to add dashboard camerass, vest cameras.

So are they going to keep them on or turn them off is the question.

Police really don't like getting recorded. (Chicago person here talking)

In a just world, there are no controls that allow the police to turn off the camera, and disabling it would be a job-losing tampering with evidence felony.

What if they have to pee?[/quote

That would be considered off duty hours.

Or it would film the wall, and the department would know what facility the officer used whilst peeing

 Asherian Command wrote:


So are they going to keep them on or turn them off is the question.

Police really don't like getting recorded. (Chicago person here talking)

http://jonathanturley.org/2014/08/19/new-orleans-police-officer-turns-off-body-camera-minutes-before-shooting-suspect-in-forehead/

 Crimson wrote:

 Asherian Command wrote:


So are they going to keep them on or turn them off is the question.

Police really don't like getting recorded. (Chicago person here talking)

http://jonathanturley.org/2014/08/19/new-orleans-police-officer-turns-off-body-camera-minutes-before-shooting-suspect-in-forehead/

How did I know that would happen?

 whembly wrote:

 Ouze wrote:


In a just world, there are no controls that allow the police to turn off the camera, and disabling it would be a job-losing tampering with evidence felony.

What if they have to pee?

Pretty easy, every cop wears a light sensor attached to Mr.Happy the One-Eyed Cav Scout, and that light sensor works like the ones on street lights. When exposed to light it shuts off the camera.

This way, we all know if a cop comes after you with his dingle a danglin' he is either gonna wet on you or has even more malicious intents and does not want to be filmed.

 Asherian Command wrote:

 Crimson wrote:

 Asherian Command wrote:


So are they going to keep them on or turn them off is the question.

Police really don't like getting recorded. (Chicago person here talking)

http://jonathanturley.org/2014/08/19/new-orleans-police-officer-turns-off-body-camera-minutes-before-shooting-suspect-in-forehead/

How did I know that would happen?

How did I guess it was New Orleans...

 -Shrike- wrote:

 Grundz wrote:

 Gentleman_Jellyfish wrote:

Yup, everybody I know has shoved a store clerk before intimidating him with my stature and leaving with an item I didn't paid for.

notice how no one has found that clerk and talked to him? or how he didn't call the police after the incident? or how the huffington post pulled its "story" about witnesses confirming the police's story?

There's a lot of things with this that doesn't add up

Hey, that clerk is probably terrified right now. If he says anything bad or casts Michael Brown in an unfavourable light, the store will almost certainly be looted/burnt down, if it hasn't already happened. And maybe he didn't call the police because a customer did that for him? No point in making duplicate calls as far as I'm aware.

Yes I concur he was living in so much mortal terror that he did not report the crime even after brown was dead and before the riots started.

As a Thai citizen.
1. Ferguson is actually a neighbourhood of (West)St. Louis. NBT radio news report said it is 'a township' which it's baffling me a bit.
2. But something for sure is that the forensic team handling this case is the same team/crew or consists of a team doing Rodney King beating case 22 years ago. It's very shocking to me that the likes of Paunthip Rojjanasunandh did shown up in America! History is repeating itself!
I don't know if this will be the worst city riot in the USA since The Great L.A. Riots? The presence of NG (on CNN, one is standing on Hummer turret, manning an MG.. possibly it is either M60, or M249 SAW.... which intentionally a lethan weapon) seems to say that. I don't know if some crooked NG Commander or fascist inclining officer will organize a firing squad to crackdown the protests? since the armed riots and protests did happen in the same 'hood' and.. by some standars of military peacekeeping operations. (of some country)... Firing squads are permitted to keep peace!
3. And Here in Thailand. where the evil Junta the NCPO (Nominal name 'National Council of Peace and Order' ... Actual name 'National Coercion and Policing Order'... "คณะสารเลวแห่งชาติ") is ruling. I'm sure that its leader--Gen. Prayudh Jan-Ocha-- is watching this news to the detail and in the upcoming friday. He will 'explain' the reasons why curfew (or at least, military garrisons) is extended, and why peaceful protests are banned here... He might even plan a grandscale massacre by waiting for a big big riot to erupt in Bangkok (or instigating it himself! he's quite Macchiavellian! and determined to completely destroy the 'Red Factions' ) and this time he will shamelessly issue a grandscale firing squads and aired it around the country so to scare the protesters.... This is my concern but in this friday he's gonna say something about Ferguson riots and will claim that 'military constabulary action to handle protests' is legitible (as the USA is using it now! but AFAIK no firing squads are used against looters or gangsters though some hardcore media wants the NG to drag all gangsters to the streets and air the execution by firing squads around the country!).
Anyway the forensic crew must pay for this chaos! along with a crook cop.

 Grundz wrote:

 -Shrike- wrote:

 Grundz wrote:

 Gentleman_Jellyfish wrote:

Yup, everybody I know has shoved a store clerk before intimidating him with my stature and leaving with an item I didn't paid for.

notice how no one has found that clerk and talked to him? or how he didn't call the police after the incident? or how the huffington post pulled its "story" about witnesses confirming the police's story?

There's a lot of things with this that doesn't add up

Hey, that clerk is probably terrified right now. If he says anything bad or casts Michael Brown in an unfavourable light, the store will almost certainly be looted/burnt down, if it hasn't already happened. And maybe he didn't call the police because a customer did that for him? No point in making duplicate calls as far as I'm aware.

Yes I concur he was living in so much mortal terror that he did not report the crime even after brown was dead and before the riots started.

You mean before all the riots started?

Despite the shooting being justified. Which I think from a legal standpoint it is going to end up.

The rioting and the militarized response makes both side wrong as feth.

 Lone Cat wrote:
As a Thai citizen.
1. Ferguson is actually a neighbourhood of (West)St. Louis. NBT radio news report said it is 'a township' which it's baffling me a bit.

Why?
Couldn't find a good map, but Ferguson is between Florissant and Normandy:

2. But something for sure is that the forensic team handling this case is the same team/crew or consists of a team doing Rodney King beating case 22 years ago. It's very shocking to me that the likes of Paunthip Rojjanasunandh did shown up in America! History is repeating itself!

Very much doubt that...

I don't know if this will be the worst city riot in the USA since The Great L.A. Riots? The presence of NG (on CNN, one is standing on Hummer turret, manning an MG.. possibly it is either M60, or M249 SAW.... which intentionally a lethan weapon) seems to say that. I don't know if some crooked NG Commander or fascist inclining officer will organize a firing squad to crackdown the protests? since the armed riots and protests did happen in the same 'hood' and.. by some standars of military peacekeeping operations. (of some country)... Firing squads are permitted to keep peace!

Yeah... there's concerns as to what will happen to the surrounding neihborhood once this is over... but, Ferguson is middle-class little town. It's not "ghetto-like" at all.

3. And Here in Thailand. where the evil Junta the NCPO (Nominal name 'National Council of Peace and Order' ... Actual name 'National Coercion and Policing Order'... "คณะสารเลวแห่งชาติ") is ruling. I'm sure that its leader--Gen. Prayudh Jan-Ocha-- is watching this news to the detail and in the upcoming friday. He will 'explain' the reasons why curfew (or at least, military garrisons) is extended, and why peaceful protests are banned here... He might even plan a grandscale massacre by waiting for a big big riot to erupt in Bangkok (or instigating it himself! he's quite Macchiavellian! and determined to completely destroy the 'Red Factions' ) and this time he will shamelessly issue a grandscale firing squads and aired it around the country so to scare the protesters.... This is my concern but in this friday he's gonna say something about Ferguson riots and will claim that 'military constabulary action to handle protests' is legitible (as the USA is using it now! but AFAIK no firing squads are used against looters or gangsters though some hardcore media wants the NG to drag all gangsters to the streets and air the execution by firing squads around the country!).
Anyway the forensic crew must pay for this chaos! along with a crook cop.

Investigation is still ongoing... no official reports has been released yet.

 Lone Cat wrote:

Anyway the forensic crew must pay for this chaos! along with a crook cop.

Investigation of the police officer is ongoing. The forensics are still in process. This isn't CSI. Cases aren't resolved in 60 minutes.

The Chaos was created by the rioters themselve AND the local PD uping the anti with their tacti-cool gear.

Here in the US, we have the court of law and due process. Keep your Thai vigilante justice to yourself.

Isn't the army in charge in Thailand? Don't they deal with protests with tanks?

Forgive me if this has been posted already.

St Louis Police fatally shot anothe young African-American on Tuesday: http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/19/us/missouri-police-shooting/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

Gonna get worse before it gets better.


(Sorry, this is probably known to all by now. I thought the article was from today, but it was from yesterday)

 jasper76 wrote:
Forgive me if this has been posted already.

St Louis Police fatally shot anothe young African-American on Tuesday: http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/19/us/missouri-police-shooting/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

Gonna get worse before it gets better.


(Sorry, this is probably known to all by now. I thought the article was from today, but it was from yesterday)

Was mention earlier if its the knife wielder. Suicide by cops it would seem. Did not help with the situation being they got the perception of "They shot another one!"

 Frazzled wrote:

 d-usa wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:
You're assuming there is sufficient evidence to warrant charging for...anything.

Which I covered under "transparent grand jury process".

But hey, let's not read what I write.

I am not seeing a grand jury noted here. I'm seeing straight to trial.

A not-guilty verdict based on an transparent investigation, a transparent trial, and by a prosecutor who has no bone in the fight and who is running a case based on facts and without previous baggage would be justice because it's a verdict based on facts and not tainted.

Selective quoting = no point talking to you.

I mean, how many lines did that post have? And you ignored the two sentences right before the one you quoted?

Justice for the family can also be achieved by getting a not-guilty verdict, or not even going to trial, after a non-biased transparent investigation that removes any and all appearances of having the blue shield protect the officer.

A decision not to charge after a secret grand jury, or a not-guilty verdict based on the prosecution by a pro-cop DA who gives the appearance that he wasn't really interested in a guilty verdict from the beginning isn't justice for the family.

 Jihadin wrote:

 jasper76 wrote:
Forgive me if this has been posted already.

St Louis Police fatally shot anothe young African-American on Tuesday: http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/19/us/missouri-police-shooting/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

Gonna get worse before it gets better.


(Sorry, this is probably known to all by now. I thought the article was from today, but it was from yesterday)

Was mention earlier if its the knife wielder. Suicide by cops it would seem. Did not help with the situation being they got the perception of "They shot another one!"

Yeah, it was the knife wielder.

It's certainly not improving the situation.

A decision not to charge after a secret grand jury, or a not-guilty verdict based on the prosecution by a pro-cop DA who gives the appearance that he wasn't really interested in a guilty verdict from the beginning isn't justice for the family.

Help me out, what is a "secret grand jury" that you're against?

Face it, you're convinced this cop committed murder.

Is this some Texan thing?

 d-usa wrote:
Is this some Texan thing?

Maybe we're misperceiving each other. Are you saying the grand jury process should be skipped? if no then I apologize. If yes, then welcome to violation of due process of law.


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There is a whole other sentence in both replies that you ignored. The second time it's even highlighted in orange as well.

I'm not concerned about him not being charged or if charged found not guilty. I'm concerned about a cloud of "he got away with it because he is a cop" hanging over the whole thing if he did nothing wrong.

That's why I say that they need to be sure to be transparent and avoid any appearance of bias. So that if he is not charged, or not guilty, it is clear that the dead guy and the cop both had a fair representation in the justice system. For the same of the community and the sake of the cop.

If the community can see that he got zero special treatment for being a cop they can heal faster. And the cop benefits because he doesn't have that cloud over his head for the rest of his career.

 d-usa wrote:
Is this some Texan thing?

Isn't everything a Texan thing to a Texan?

 Jihadin wrote:

Was mention earlier if its the knife wielder. Suicide by cops it would seem. Did not help with the situation being they got the perception of "They shot another one!"

They could have (and should have) used a taser instead. There was no reason to kill the guy.