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It continues to shock me that holder has a job.

 cincydooley wrote:
It continues to shock me that holder has a job.

Why?

For another two years at that.

Selling guns to cartels usually ends someone;s career with a nice jail sentence. Thats why.

 Co'tor Shas wrote:

 cincydooley wrote:
It continues to shock me that holder has a job.

Why?

Because I follow the news and can recognize when someone is obviously inadequate for their job, especially when it's so obvious.

 cincydooley wrote:

 Co'tor Shas wrote:

 cincydooley wrote:
It continues to shock me that holder has a job.

Why?

Because I follow the news and can recognize when someone is obviously inadequate for their job, especially when it's so obvious.

Oh, I thought you were talking solely about this independent. But doesn't he answer to and obey Obama? That would mean that he would not really be the one at fault here (if there is fault).
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I always new the municipality system in St. Louis county was messed up, but not this messed up

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-watch/wp/2014/09/03/how-st-louis-county-missouri-profits-from-poverty/

So you have lawyers that act as prosecutors in some municipalities, go a few miles over act as a judge in another, and then go to a third town and act as a defense attorney. Working only a few days a year in each one (some of these small courts only meet once a month) and pulling in 50K for each job. A whole freaking shadow economy that profits off of minor traffic violations. Some of these towns have outstanding warrants that outnumber the populations. All for minor city ordnance and traffic violations. Someone mentioned nuking things from orbit. It's beyond time that St. Louis city annexed the county.

Also these same municipalities make it difficult to expand public transportation. So you have no good option but to drive a car in order to live and work in St, Louis. So when you see these people getting ticked for driving without insurance, it's not like they have much of a choice.

And then this gem:

“There have been instances where someone will drive to court to clear a warrant for driving with a suspended license. They’ll pay the fine, get the warrant removed, and then get pulled over as they’re leaving the parking lot, because a police officer in the courtroom overheard why they were there,”

 Co'tor Shas wrote:

 cincydooley wrote:

 Co'tor Shas wrote:

 cincydooley wrote:
It continues to shock me that holder has a job.

Why?

Because I follow the news and can recognize when someone is obviously inadequate for their job, especially when it's so obvious.

Oh, I thought you were talking solely about this independent. But doesn't he answer to and obey Obama? That would mean that he would not really be the one at fault here (if there is fault).
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For those keeping score...

Number of times DOJ is investigating Ferguson? twice
Number of times DOJ is investigating Loris Lerner? zero

It's called "prosecutorial discretion", which can be political.


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 CaulynDarr wrote:
I always new the municipality system in St. Louis county was messed up, but not this messed up

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-watch/wp/2014/09/03/how-st-louis-county-missouri-profits-from-poverty/

So you have lawyers that act as prosecutors in some municipalities, go a few miles over act as a judge in another, and then go to a third town and act as a defense attorney. Working only a few days a year in each one (some of these small courts only meet once a month) and pulling in 50K for each job. A whole freaking shadow economy that profits off of minor traffic violations. Some of these towns have outstanding warrants that outnumber the populations. All for minor city ordnance and traffic violations. Someone mentioned nuking things from orbit. It's beyond time that St. Louis city annexed the county.

Also these same municipalities make it difficult to expand public transportation. So you have no good option but to drive a car in order to live and work in St, Louis. So when you see these people getting ticked for driving without insurance, it's not like they have much of a choice.

And then this gem:

“There have been instances where someone will drive to court to clear a warrant for driving with a suspended license. They’ll pay the fine, get the warrant removed, and then get pulled over as they’re leaving the parking lot, because a police officer in the courtroom overheard why they were there,”

Yeah... we have some cases in MO that is working it's way up to the State's SC. This is government-sponsored racketeering.

http://theblot.com/exclusive-ferguson-police-chief-lied-about-michael-brown-surveillance-tape-7725621

I'm surprised I tell you, surprised!

 d-usa wrote:
http://theblot.com/exclusive-ferguson-police-chief-lied-about-michael-brown-surveillance-tape-7725621

I'm surprised I tell you, surprised!

Lots of unsavory angles to this story from both sides Why should the trend break now? First Brown is a mother's angel, cut short in the bloom of promising youth, next, he's revealed on video as a bully, shoving around small people and robbing their store. Now we get two different reports of why the video was released.
One side says it's character assasination, the other says it shows the kind of person he really was.
The merry go round continues, hurrah!

Relapse wrote:
Now we get two different reports of why the video was released.
One side says it's character assasination, the other says it shows the kind of person he really was.

Maybe it's both.

 Hordini wrote:

Relapse wrote:
Now we get two different reports of why the video was released.
One side says it's character assasination, the other says it shows the kind of person he really was.

Maybe it's both.

Truth spoken there, bro.

Thank god we don't have juries for trials and whatnot.

It's so great that we have trials in the media!

 Kanluwen wrote:
Thank god we don't have juries for trials and whatnot.

It's so great that we have trials in the media!

Think of the savings in court costs as compared to the advertising and marketing dollars the media presents! It's brilliant I tell ye!

Relapse wrote:

 d-usa wrote:
http://theblot.com/exclusive-ferguson-police-chief-lied-about-michael-brown-surveillance-tape-7725621

I'm surprised I tell you, surprised!

Lots of unsavory angles to this story from both sides Why should the trend break now? First Brown is a mother's angel, cut short in the bloom of promising youth, next, he's revealed on video as a bully, shoving around small people and robbing their store. Now we get two different reports of why the video was released.
One side says it's character assasination, the other says it shows the kind of person he really was.
The merry go round continues, hurrah!

The only thing right in this post is that there are two stories. The rest is just some weid rambling.

The first story is that the police HAD to release the video that had nothing to do with the incident because the media file FOIA requests.
The second story is that the police made a choice to release the video that they admit had nothing to do with the shooting and then lied about the reason why they did it.

The fact that a FOIA request showed that no FOIA requests were filed for the video, and that a lot of the stuff that was actually asked for has not been released speaks volumes.

 d-usa wrote:

The first story is that the police HAD to release the video that had nothing to do with the incident because the media file FOIA requests.
The second story is that the police made a choice to release the video that they admit had nothing to do with the shooting and then lied about the reason why they did it.

The fact that a FOIA request showed that no FOIA requests were filed for the video, and that a lot of the stuff that was actually asked for has not been released speaks volumes.

Be fair, let's not pretend for a single dang second that this case was not already decided in the minds of most people the second "black kid shot by white cop" was put out as the defining piece of information.

 d-usa wrote:

Relapse wrote:

 d-usa wrote:
http://theblot.com/exclusive-ferguson-police-chief-lied-about-michael-brown-surveillance-tape-7725621

I'm surprised I tell you, surprised!

Lots of unsavory angles to this story from both sides Why should the trend break now? First Brown is a mother's angel, cut short in the bloom of promising youth, next, he's revealed on video as a bully, shoving around small people and robbing their store. Now we get two different reports of why the video was released.
One side says it's character assasination, the other says it shows the kind of person he really was.
The merry go round continues, hurrah!

The only thing right in this post is that there are two stories. The rest is just some weid rambling.

The first story is that the police HAD to release the video that had nothing to do with the incident because the media file FOIA requests.
The second story is that the police made a choice to release the video that they admit had nothing to do with the shooting and then lied about the reason why they did it.

The fact that a FOIA request showed that no FOIA requests were filed for the video, and that a lot of the stuff that was actually asked for has not been released speaks volumes.

Why weird rambling? That appears to be what's going on, unless you have a different take on one side presenting pictures of him at age 13 or during his graduation while the other side puts out videos of him bullying someone and saying he was a gang member.
Is it my comment about unsavory angles on the story you find weird?

Heard a growing trend lately dealing with "Blue on Black" shooting

 Jihadin wrote:
Heard a growing trend lately dealing with "Blue on Black" shooting

"stop doing it" might help.

I see Risk Assessment coming into play. If the threat is to high then LEO will not go into the area. Be it physical danger or Media backlash.

Relapse wrote:

 d-usa wrote:

Relapse wrote:

 d-usa wrote:
http://theblot.com/exclusive-ferguson-police-chief-lied-about-michael-brown-surveillance-tape-7725621

I'm surprised I tell you, surprised!

Lots of unsavory angles to this story from both sides Why should the trend break now? First Brown is a mother's angel, cut short in the bloom of promising youth, next, he's revealed on video as a bully, shoving around small people and robbing their store. Now we get two different reports of why the video was released.
One side says it's character assasination, the other says it shows the kind of person he really was.
The merry go round continues, hurrah!

The only thing right in this post is that there are two stories. The rest is just some weid rambling.

The first story is that the police HAD to release the video that had nothing to do with the incident because the media file FOIA requests.
The second story is that the police made a choice to release the video that they admit had nothing to do with the shooting and then lied about the reason why they did it.

The fact that a FOIA request showed that no FOIA requests were filed for the video, and that a lot of the stuff that was actually asked for has not been released speaks volumes.

Why weird rambling? That appears to be what's going on, unless you have a different take on one side presenting pictures of him at age 13 or during his graduation while the other side puts out videos of him bullying someone and saying he was a gang member.
Is it my comment about unsavory angles on the story you find weird?

I'm not talking about "the story".

I'm talking about one specific act by the police department and their apperant lie about the reason for doing so.




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Edit: and before we go down the "media made this a "black kid shot by white cop" story trail again:

Either back up the statement from many many pages ago when you first made it or accept that this was not covered by national media until they covered the protests that followed it and not the shooting itself.

 d-usa wrote:

Relapse wrote:

 d-usa wrote:

Relapse wrote:

 d-usa wrote:
http://theblot.com/exclusive-ferguson-police-chief-lied-about-michael-brown-surveillance-tape-7725621

I'm surprised I tell you, surprised!

Lots of unsavory angles to this story from both sides Why should the trend break now? First Brown is a mother's angel, cut short in the bloom of promising youth, next, he's revealed on video as a bully, shoving around small people and robbing their store. Now we get two different reports of why the video was released.
One side says it's character assasination, the other says it shows the kind of person he really was.
The merry go round continues, hurrah!

The only thing right in this post is that there are two stories. The rest is just some weid rambling.

The first story is that the police HAD to release the video that had nothing to do with the incident because the media file FOIA requests.
The second story is that the police made a choice to release the video that they admit had nothing to do with the shooting and then lied about the reason why they did it.

The fact that a FOIA request showed that no FOIA requests were filed for the video, and that a lot of the stuff that was actually asked for has not been released speaks volumes.

Why weird rambling? That appears to be what's going on, unless you have a different take on one side presenting pictures of him at age 13 or during his graduation while the other side puts out videos of him bullying someone and saying he was a gang member.
Is it my comment about unsavory angles on the story you find weird?

I'm not talking about "the story".

I'm talking about one specific act by the police department and their apperant lie about the reason for doing so.




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Edit: and before we go down the "media made this a "black kid shot by white cop" story trail again:

Either back up the statement from many many pages ago when you first made it or accept that this was not covered by national media until they covered the protests that followed it and not the shooting itself.

I was talking about the whole thing and how it has become a huge gak hole for both sides. Get touchy about it if you wish, but that's what it is.

Both sides.....GUILTY

So we can't talk about isolated facts like "he robbed a store" and "the police released a video and lied about the reason" because the "whole thing is a gak hole"?

Is that the standard answer from now on about anything in this case?

I no longer care is my current answer

 d-usa wrote:
http://theblot.com/exclusive-ferguson-police-chief-lied-about-michael-brown-surveillance-tape-7725621

I'm surprised I tell you, surprised!

Huh?

The local reporters requested those info too... the biggest one was the St. Louis Post Dispatch, not to mention plethora of news organizations in the region.

o.O

 d-usa wrote:
So we can't talk about isolated facts like "he robbed a store" and "the police released a video and lied about the reason" because the "whole thing is a gak hole"?

Is that the standard answer from now on about anything in this case?

Where do you get I'm saying we can't talk about it? I think the whole thing is becoming more a a gak hole with each new revelation, I'm not saying you can't talk about it.k

You must have character for your character to be assassinated.

This guy probably couldn't spell it.

 SlaveToDorkness wrote:
You must have character for your character to be assassinated.

This guy probably couldn't spell it.

Well if he couldn't then that is very damning of the education system.

 A Town Called Malus wrote:

Well if he couldn't then that is very damning of the education system.

The biggest problem is that the education system varies wildly from district to district; not to even mention school to school.