Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you:
No adverts like this in the forums anymore.
Times and dates in your local timezone.
Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance.
Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely.
Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net.
If you are already a member then feel free to login now.
2014/08/15 11:12:57
Subject: The top 100 baby names in England and Wales in 2013
Oliver has taken Harry’s crown as the top name parents choice for their baby boys in 2013. That year saw an extra 6,949 children called Oliver in England and Wales.
Amelia, which has been the popular girls name since 2011, regains the top yet again with 5,570 babies. That year, coincidentally perhaps, was the first year that Amy Pond appeared in Doctor Who.
In a move that will infuriate Game of Thrones fans, there were 50 children called Khaleesi but just four called Daenerys. This is despite Khaleesi being a royal title rather than an actual name.
In case you wondering, there were 187 Aryas, five Sansas and three Catelyns. There appeared to be nobody called Cersei.
For boys there were eleven Gregors, six Tyrions, four Brandans but, perhaps most surprisingly, eleven Theons.
The ONS has picked up on this and documents the fight between among others: Draco and Sirius, Thierry and Christiano, Walter (72 in 2013) and Skyler (58) as well as the immortal fight between Loki (37) and Thor (13).
Harry did not only lose the top spot for boys, but got knocked down to third place by Jack. New names entering the top ten were Oscar and, unsurprisingly, George.
Poppy was the only new girls name that made the top ten but Elsie, Ivy and Violet all went up by over twenty places to 47th, 66th and 78th respectively.
Take a look at the full top 100s in the tables below.
( tables in original link)
For boys there were ........ most surprisingly, eleven Theons
.... is there a short-straw or similar joke here...?
The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
2014/08/15 12:18:01
Subject: The top 100 baby names in England and Wales in 2013
The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
2014/08/15 12:58:07
Subject: The top 100 baby names in England and Wales in 2013
They'll all be sorry when Hodor sits atop the Iron Throne.
Mandorallen turned back toward the insolently sneering baron. 'My Lord,' The great knight said distantly, 'I find thy face apelike and thy form misshapen. Thy beard, moreover, is an offence against decency, resembling more closely the scabrous fur which doth decorate the hinder portion of a mongrel dog than a proper adornment for a human face. Is it possibly that thy mother, seized by some wild lechery, did dally at some time past with a randy goat?' - Mimbrate Knight Protector Mandorallen.
Excerpt from "Seeress of Kell", Book Five of The Malloreon series by David Eddings.
"You need not fear us, unless you are a dark heart, a vile one who preys on the innocent; I promise, you can’t hide forever in the empty darkness, for we will hunt you down like the animals you are, and pull you into the very bowels of hell." Iron - Within Temptation
2014/08/15 15:08:59
Subject: The top 100 baby names in England and Wales in 2013
The Khaleesi/Daenerys thing really annoys me. So, you're a big enough fan of Game of Thrones to name your daughter after one of the characters but you're not a big enough fan to know what her actual name is?
Makes me despair. Besides, I think Daenerys is actually quite a nice name for a girl.
The mrs and I are planning to have kids in the near future...challenge accepted!
"It makes no difference what men think of war, said the judge. War endures. As well ask men what they think of stone. War was always here. Before man was, war waited for him. The ultimate trade awaiting the ultimate practitioner."
Cormac McCarthy
2014/08/15 16:01:22
Subject: Re:The top 100 baby names in England and Wales in 2013
Inquisitor Gonzo wrote: The Khaleesi/Daenerys thing really annoys me. So, you're a big enough fan of Game of Thrones to name your daughter after one of the characters but you're not a big enough fan to know what her actual name is?
Makes me despair. Besides, I think Daenerys is actually quite a nice name for a girl.
Just don't name your kids Robb (with 2 b's) or Bran. Not that I'd wish you to have a child with Dwarfism, but if you do, you MUST name him Tyrion
This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2014/08/17 09:42:07
"It makes no difference what men think of war, said the judge. War endures. As well ask men what they think of stone. War was always here. Before man was, war waited for him. The ultimate trade awaiting the ultimate practitioner."
Cormac McCarthy
2014/08/16 18:45:03
Subject: The top 100 baby names in England and Wales in 2013
We named our baby Amelia last year. We had know idea that it was popular or that there was a character on Doctor Who with that name. The nurse on the day told us our bub was the third Amelia in the hospital that day. Whoops.
“We may observe that the government in a civilized country is much more expensive than in a barbarous one; and when we say that one government is more expensive than another, it is the same as if we said that that one country is farther advanced in improvement than another. To say that the government is expensive and the people not oppressed is to say that the people are rich.”
Adam Smith, who must have been some kind of leftie or something.
2014/08/18 05:25:02
Subject: The top 100 baby names in England and Wales in 2013
When my oldest was born in a German hospital, the nurses kept trying to spell our daughters name with the traditional German spelling, rather than the spelling we have/wanted.
2014/08/18 16:28:15
Subject: The top 100 baby names in England and Wales in 2013
Troy wrote: That makes Mohammed #2 at 6,386. If you add Mohammad to the three for all derivatives of the Prophet, then its far and ahead #1 at 7,445.
You'd think that would be a bigger news story really.
yeah that was actually the first thing I noticed on the list, but its not suprising given the huge influx of muslim immigrants and their tendancy to breed large familys. Derivations of the mohammad name are one of the worlds most, if not the most, used names.
2014/08/18 16:36:03
Subject: The top 100 baby names in England and Wales in 2013
Troy wrote: That makes Mohammed #2 at 6,386. If you add Mohammad to the three for all derivatives of the Prophet, then its far and ahead #1 at 7,445.
You'd think that would be a bigger news story really.
yeah that was actually the first thing I noticed on the list, but its not suprising given the huge influx of muslim immigrants and their tendancy to breed large familys. Derivations of the mohammad name are one of the worlds most, if not the most, used names.
It's all derived from the fact that in Islam/Arabic writing, there is one way to write Mohammed. And that is phonetically. So, when a Muslim translates, or writes there name in a Germanic language's Alphabet, the spelling isn't important to them, as they are still spelling phonetically. Mohammed, Muhamed, mohammad, etc are all the same name, even though in England it's 3+ different names, but there's only one way to write it in arabic.
2014/08/18 16:43:32
Subject: The top 100 baby names in England and Wales in 2013
Troy wrote: That makes Mohammed #2 at 6,386. If you add Mohammad to the three for all derivatives of the Prophet, then its far and ahead #1 at 7,445.
You'd think that would be a bigger news story really.
It was actually, I knew this a year ago. But it depends on what your sources of news are. Left wing media probably gave the story minimal attention, for obvious reasons.
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2014/08/18 16:44:09
2014/08/18 17:22:12
Subject: The top 100 baby names in England and Wales in 2013
WTF is wrong with you? Hodor is 1,000,000 more appropriated of a name than fething Theon...
I think there was 3 Sandor's (Hound > Hodor)
Makes you wonder if anyone had named their kid Tyrion? (presumably, there'd be only one so may not get mentioned and highly unlikely unless the parents had a child with dwarfism, if that's detectable at/before birth?)
2014/08/18 17:27:21
Subject: The top 100 baby names in England and Wales in 2013
Troy wrote: That makes Mohammed #2 at 6,386. If you add Mohammad to the three for all derivatives of the Prophet, then its far and ahead #1 at 7,445.
You'd think that would be a bigger news story really.
yeah that was actually the first thing I noticed on the list, but its not suprising given the huge influx of muslim immigrants and their tendancy to breed large familys. Derivations of the mohammad name are one of the worlds most, if not the most, used names.
It's all derived from the fact that in Islam/Arabic writing, there is one way to write Mohammed. And that is phonetically. So, when a Muslim translates, or writes there name in a Germanic language's Alphabet, the spelling isn't important to them, as they are still spelling phonetically. Mohammed, Muhamed, mohammad, etc are all the same name, even though in England it's 3+ different names, but there's only one way to write it in arabic.
That's no different to many Celtic names that were Anglicised after immigrating to an English-speaking country. Most Irish surnames can, if translated from their original Irish, be spelt in many different ways in English. To say nothing of forenames like Sean/Shaun/Shawn, Sinead/Sienead etc. It's certainly not unique to the Muslim world.
2014/08/18 17:29:03
Subject: The top 100 baby names in England and Wales in 2013
Arya's nice, if I had a daughter, that would be her name. XD
Yeah, the Khalessi/Daenerys thing REALLY annoys me, I fail to see the logic in a name being derived from a title! Daenerys (or just Dany) is much better anyhow.
My dad actually likes Eddard as a name. Maybe a middle name 'praps?
