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Vetril wrote:

 thedarkavenger wrote:

Vetril wrote:
No; my point is that you won't bring what you usually bring. You will bring something else, which goes well with the swedish comp, and still kicks ass.

That's the whole point of tournaments. You don't go to a tournament with a list designed to be weak. You go with the strongest options available to you and your book. It's not the Swedish comp's fault. It's the very nature of competitive play.

So what does the swedish comp achieve, apart from altering the meta in a way the comp writer likes?

It achieves a playing field that's varied enough so that it remains interesting, yet competitive. If you like uncomped warhammer, that's fair. I do too with my dark elves 90% win rate.(From the last 10 games I played, the only one I lost was a dark elf mirror match.)

Vetril wrote:

 thedarkavenger wrote:

Vetril wrote:
No; my point is that you won't bring what you usually bring. You will bring something else, which goes well with the swedish comp, and still kicks ass.

That's the whole point of tournaments. You don't go to a tournament with a list designed to be weak. You go with the strongest options available to you and your book. It's not the Swedish comp's fault. It's the very nature of competitive play.

So what does the swedish comp achieve, apart from altering the meta in a way the comp writer likes?

It creates a nice middle-ground between competitive (ETC) and non-competitive meta and is more suitable for those looking to play vanilla WHFB with a few slight changes.

I rather like the Swedish comp. It is very well thought out. Simple, but brilliant.

 Sigvatr wrote:

Vetril wrote:

 thedarkavenger wrote:

Vetril wrote:
No; my point is that you won't bring what you usually bring. You will bring something else, which goes well with the swedish comp, and still kicks ass.

That's the whole point of tournaments. You don't go to a tournament with a list designed to be weak. You go with the strongest options available to you and your book. It's not the Swedish comp's fault. It's the very nature of competitive play.

So what does the swedish comp achieve, apart from altering the meta in a way the comp writer likes?

It creates a nice middle-ground between competitive (ETC) and non-competitive meta and is more suitable for those looking to play vanilla WHFB with a few slight changes.

ETC isn't warhammer though. It's a unique entity.

Oh. I thought the topic was about this.

Oh well.

 Shas'O Dorian wrote:
Though min/max WAAC players are what tournaments are for. They are for THEM, to find the best player not the fluffiest player.

The Fantasy tournaments I attend are most definitely not just for min/max WAAC players, nor are many WHFB tournaments in general. Painting, sportsmanship and other 'soft' or 'hobby' factors tend to way pretty heavily in the grimdark past - this is not, after all, 40k

Me, I just dream of a time when list design and intentional down-tuning receives more recognition. Take whatever you want, powergamers, but don't expect a cookie for taking the kneejerk obvious meta list for Army X.

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