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Ok, I am paying a list with a revenant titan. And one of my main fears is serpent spam. My intended plan to beat a list of 5 serpents would be:

Put Titan in cover as close as possible to some of them.

If it survives alpha strike/if I start. Place the titan close to one or two of them. Hopefully they will be crammed together.

Angle the titan so that it can see a further 2 serpent.

Fire at both serpent not close to the titan. Then they would most likely Jink, or explode if not.

Shoot the Revenant Missile Launcher at the closest one and attempt a multi assault.

You will get 1 auto pen by hammer of wrath on one of them. And depending on the result you target your one attack at the most tempting.

Then you triple stomp the last one, killing it.

Basically crippling the enemies entire army.

I try to make sure, not to be in assault range of any Wraith Knights. And keep in mind to keep your front/side against them for Titan Holofields to work its magic.

Any toughts?.

Don't even bother with melee. Just stay back and shoot all day. And if the wraith knights bother you, shoot them too...they have mediocre invul saves and D weapons will hurt them a lot.

You don't need too much in the "tactics" department to counter Wave Serpents with a Revenant.

Well if they shoot back they strip a lot of hull points. About 7 a round. And you will only destroy 2 each turn if your just shoot.


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*if he has 5 Wave Serpents.


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So seeing in 1500 pts match you would really need to kill those buggers fast. Unless you want one less revenant.

Until you factor in holo-fields. Move the titan an inch a turn, that 7 turns to 3-4. Less if any of the serpents are snap firing, not twin linked, or used the shields to block a D shot.

That's included holo fields.

20 serpent shield shots averges 16 hits. 8 passes holo. 5 Hull points.

7+5 S 6 Shots. if in 4+ cover that is stil 7,5 hits About 3 Hulls points. 8 down.

If not in coverage equals average one Revenant down a round. So you risk being alpha striked. And would average to loose it round 2 even with 2 serpents down.

8 strength 7 shots vs av 12 dont do 5 hull points, they do around 3.

Just put the titan an a sky shield landing pad, problem solved.

I've never read the revenant titan rules. But a Titan with only AV12? ATitan??? With armour only as thick as a chimera? That's. Just. Silly.

A lynx, the super heavy eldar tank thats twice as big as a wave serpent, has twice as many engines, and has 6 hull points is only armor value 11.

When they release a Eldar themed landing pad. Or I find time to build one from scratch. I will do your Landing Pad tactic. If you pair it with 5 spirit seers tossing invisibility on it. Peoow Only snap shots 4++ rerollableish save. Damn that's hot.

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Poly Ranger wrote:
I've never read the revenant titan rules. But a Titan with only AV12? ATitan??? With armour only as thick as a chimera? That's. Just. Silly.

It's true, ,it's AV12 all around with 9 HP.

But for each hit you score you need to roll a further dice to see whether you actually hit the model or the Holo-fields...then Armour Penetration. It's a Super Hevy, so ignores most of the penetrating hit too. Most people like a Sky Shield Pad or Void Shield Generator to grant an additional save.

Then it's fire off four Large Blast(?) D P 2 or 1 shots that can fire at whatever target it desires. It's also a Walker so if it gets in Close Combat, it simply Stomps (and being Super-Heavy, cannot be locked in with most things).

Not that you can get into combat, it can move 36 inches in the Movement Phase. Can't catch it and there is no hiding from it.

All for 900 points :0

At OP: I'd be more scared of a Revenant Titan than the number of Wave Serpents you can fit in at 900 points. If you're playing higher, might be worthwhile looking into Fire Dragons? I'm unsure of most of the Eldar codex but I hear they are the premier AT for Eldar..

I believe you. I just think its silly. Even an eldar titan.

I'd heard it was massively OP, those abilities do look crazy! Was just surprised at av12.

 ninjafiredragon wrote:
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Thanks- Just ordered one from Ebay. Hope it can bear a Revenant though.

At what pt level do you play.

The Rev Titan was a bit over the top in the 6th edition, but now its damage output has been decreased due to the changes to the D weapons.
It can fire two large D blasts at one Serpent and another two ones at another. You may or may not do some damage.
Even if the Serpents jink, they can do some damage. For this, tl scatterlaser needs to hit. Then the underslung shuricannon and the Serpent shield are tl too.
I'd be not too worried about a Rev Titan against my Serpent spam.

 knightofkob wrote:
That's included holo fields.

20 serpent shield shots averges 16 hits. 8 passes holo. 5 Hull points.

7+5 S 6 Shots. if in 4+ cover that is stil 7,5 hits About 3 Hulls points. 8 down.

If not in coverage equals average one Revenant down a round. So you risk being alpha striked. And would average to loose it round 2 even with 2 serpents down.

Your math is wrong.

20 shots, 16 hits, only 1/3 do anything - so 5 hull points, holo fields negate half so 2.5.
12 S6 shots, 9 hits, 2 hull points, 4+ cover, 4+ holo field, less than 1 hull point... so we'll call it 3 HP total.

The holo field isn't a save - it is in addition to any saves you already have and happens after pens/glances are rolled.

except that everything is usually twinlinked with the scatterlaser so a bit more hits, but yeah

Then you have a Farseer cast invisibility on the Titan....

Even assuming all hits (which doesn't happen)... heck, let's assume absolute worst case.

Shield: 35 shots, 35 hits, 12 "wounds", 6 get through holo fields.
Scatter Laser plus the shuri-can is 30? shots, 30 hits, 5 "wounds", 4+ cover save drops it down to 2.5, holo fields make it 1.25... so 7.25 hull points.

And that assumes the serpents didn't move at all and didn't jink. And they still don't kill the Revenant.