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If i have an ic that joins a troop squad and he can infiltrate does the whole squad get to?

No. It comes down to timing. Once you get to the step that you deploy your infiltrating IC, the unit you want to join him to will already be on the table (or in Reserve).

No.

If it were possible to join the IC to the unit before deploying them, it woudl work... but it isn't. The timing of deployment and infiltration makes it impossible, since the IC joins the unit by being deployed with them. Prior to him joining them, they wouldn't have had the infiltrate rule, so would have had to be deployed already with the rest of the army.

They fixed this in the 5th edition FAQ (after multiple editions of Special Characters with Infiltration-based rules that didn't work) but then broke it again in 6th and so far as I'm aware have yet to fix it again.



Edit for the spellign.

Yes, No, Maybe.

RaW you certainly can't as you can't join an IC to a unit until that unit is deployed or being organised into reserve, in either case it is then too late to infiltrate them.

However, using this interpretation (the case has been the same since 5th Ed) Shrikes rules don't make sense. He can currently only join JI units before deployment but since he can't join anything before deployment that restriction does literally nothing. So there appears to be a strong case that the Design studio aren't aware of this issue.

However back in 5th Shrikes rule did nothing due to tjis very same timing issue and they FAQd it to work. 6th came along and they removed that FAQ then updated the SM codex with the redundant restriction mentioned above.

So this appears like either horrendously sloppy rules writing or right out intentional confusion being caused. So in conclusion GW have gone out of their way to make it impossible for us to understand what their intent is on this case so going with RaW seems the best answer though it is not one that everyone accepts.

FlingitNow,
He could still join a Jump Infantry Unit that was Deployed in their Deployment Zone, and is Restricted from trying to do the same to an Infantry Unit.
However, full agreement that this whole situation seems like a cruel joke being played given it was addressed and then broken again.

Maybe not but can give a unit outflank. cause he can be joined in reserve.

JinxDragon wrote:
FlingitNow,
He could still join a Jump Infantry Unit that was Deployed in their Deployment Zone, and is Restricted from trying to do the same to an Infantry Unit.
However, full agreement that this whole situation seems like a cruel joke being played given it was addressed and then broken again.

Nope he free to join any unit when deploying, the restriction only applies to units he joins before deploying.

Ah, you are right... sorry, not a marine player so I did overlook that 'before deploying' wording.
Bad writing is just bad, but at least I can't burn digital books in frustration.

Yeah it illustrates that the writer at least thought it was possible to join units before deployment or that rule makes no sense. Yet look at the Wolves codex with specific wording allowing ICs to join units before deployment as if they know this is an issue (yet no real FAQ on Shrike or other ICs conferring Infiltrate).

It seems like they just don't give a sh!$# whether we know how to play this or not or they are playing, as you say, a cruel joke.

Well you can join before deploying. All you have to do is put the unit, and IC in Reserves.

 Happyjew wrote:
Well you can join before deploying. All you have to do is put the unit, and IC in Reserves.

Which doesn't help them to infiltrate...

 insaniak wrote:

 Happyjew wrote:
Well you can join before deploying. All you have to do is put the unit, and IC in Reserves.

Which doesn't help them to infiltrate...

No but it since Shrike can only join JI before deployment, and coming in from reserves is deployment, it is possible that the writer(s) intended that if placed in reserve he could only join JI, and that if deployed normally, he'd be able to join anyone.