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Opens a hospital for people who have confused themselves with trucks:
Canberra Hospital has built its very first "super-bariatric" room capable of dealing with patients weighing up to half a tonne.
Four dedicated bariatric rooms, which include three for patients weighing up to 250 kilograms, were unveiled on Monday as Chief Minister Katy Gallagher toured two recently refurbished wards at Canberra Hospital.
The $11.7 million refurbishment has created space for 60 extra surgical beds with orthopaedic, plastic surgery and oral and maxillofacial surgery services to be housed in the new wards. Orthopaedic services will move to the ward next week, with the other services to follow later in the year.
Chief Minister Katy Gallagher visits the refurbished wards. The toilet is capable of supporting
500kg.
Chief Minister Katy Gallagher visits the refurbished wards. The toilet is capable of supporting 500kg. Photo: Graham Tidy
Ms Gallagher said the extra hospital beds would help cope with high demand for such services, especially in orthopaedic services.
"We often have other orthopaedic patients located on other wards. That's not ideal from the medical professional's point of view or the patient's so this will allow a much larger orthopaedic service," she said.
"It's also an area where we have a lot of our elective surgery, particularly those who might wait too long for their elective surgery.
One of the refurbished wards at the Canberra
Hospital.
One of the refurbished wards at the Canberra Hospital. Photo: Graham Tidy
"It's almost like a hospital has this insatiable appetite for new beds so it is carefully managed where do those beds need to be, what speciality do they need to be for, how we run an efficient service as well but it will free up capacity across the hospital just by having those extra beds."
Ms Gallagher said the extra hospital beds would also help reduce elective surgery waiting lists.
Of the 60 beds on the wards, 32 are new hospital beds, Ms Gallagher said.
The wards feature four dedicated bariatric rooms, including the hospital's first "super-bariatric" room for patients weighing up to 500 kilograms.
The room features special beds, bathroom facilities, including a much larger toilet, as well as lifting equipment calibrated to 500 kilograms. There are three other bariatric rooms on the same floor for patients weighing up to 250 kilograms.
Ms Gallagher said the dedicated bariatric rooms were a sign of the times.
"It's very much a sign of how hospitals are having to be built now dealing with some of the weight issues across the community," she said.
About two-thirds of Canberra adults are overweight or obese.
Ms Gallagher said there would be a much smaller percentage deemed morbidly obese and a "tiny percentage" needing super-bariatric hospital services.
"In orthopaedics, that is an area where you'll find them because of the weight and the impact on joints, they'll often need specialised care whether it be around their hips or their knees ... so it is something the orthopaedic service has to manage and has to provide the right care environment for those patients," she said.


Read more: http://www.canberratimes.com.au/act-news/canberra-hospital-opens-its-first-superbariatric-room-20140825-107zt3.html#ixzz3BdEj7udn


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patients weighing up to half a tonne.


Thought you all were slim and trim from trying to survive there...human bait?

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Eh doesn't surprise me, I think I recall at one stage Australia had skyrocketing rates of weight problems thanks in no small part to our she'll be right mate attitude we have to most things.

I remember the one episode of biggest loser that I watched the contestants were more shocked at how close our obesity rates were to fatty america rather than the actual number itself which should have been shocking enough.

 Jihadin wrote:
patients weighing up to half a tonne.


Thought you all were slim and trim from trying to survive there...human bait?

Oddly enough people in rural areas who are more likely to be in contact with the killer animals are more overweight. Is that the same in other countries where the further away from the city and more remote you are the more likely you are to be overweight?

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When I saw the link, I thought it was about people who thought they where actually trucks

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 hotsauceman1 wrote:
When I saw the link, I thought it was about people who thought they where actually trucks


I also initially thought maybe it was about a psychological issue, but sadly it seems to be another mock the overweight sort of situation. While often the US is mocked for it, the obesity problem is more widespread than just the US, with other countries having issues as well and it has been that way for some time.

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Obesity is a larger epidemic globally than hunger now, to wit.

Has been for at least a few years iirc.

edit- http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/13/health/global-burden-report/

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Cincinnati, Ohio

If only there was an easy and inexpensive solution to it... Man, what a shame.

 
   
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This is a good podcast about just how bad weight is and why we may need to start looking at food manufatueres
one thing said that is a really good quote "No matter how skinny you get, you will always be a fat person. Your mentality, your metabolism will be that of a fat person"


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Looking at food manufacturers? Why? Are they responsible for what you shove down your gullet while living a sedentary lifestyle??

 
   
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Why not listen to the link?
And yes, when they add stuff to the food taking advantage of little quirks in your brain that make you crave sugar, fat and salt I think they need to be looked at hard.
Self Control is just one aspect of a big multi layered problem

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We've gone down this rabbit hole before, but suffice it to say I think you're justification is nonsense. It's simple.

Know what you put in your body.

 
   
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I seriously think we're too harsh on most overweight people with the false senses of "beauty" girls are expected to aim for, but 500lb people disgust me. I realize it sounds awful. But the fact that people can allow themselves to get that big...shudder. It's a double standard-I know. "Fat is okay, but super fat is unacceptable". I don't feel that I'm right in this matter at all, I just feel like everything in life, there is a line. Once it's crossed...excuse me, I'm going to be a bit sick.

Again, I think I'm being an absolute prick here. But it doesn't change my opinion.

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 cincydooley wrote:
We've gone down this rabbit hole before, but suffice it to say I think you're justification is nonsense. It's simple.

Know what you put in your body.

It isnt just that. even a simple bran muffin can contain stupid amounts of sugar.
Food companies add addictive gak to the food you eat so they can convince you to eat me. Remember lays "I Bet you cant eat just one"

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 timetowaste85 wrote:
I seriously think we're too harsh on most overweight people with the false senses of "beauty" girls are expected to aim for, but 500lb people disgust me. I realize it sounds awful. But the fact that people can allow themselves to get that big...shudder. It's a double standard-I know. "Fat is okay, but super fat is unacceptable". I don't feel that I'm right in this matter at all, I just feel like everything in life, there is a line. Once it's crossed...excuse me, I'm going to be a bit sick.

Again, I think I'm being an absolute prick here. But it doesn't change my opinion.



TBF, there is a huuuuuuge difference between "he/she looks like they just walked out of a concentration camp/broom closet", "he/she could use a bit more meat on the bones", "he/she has a good, full figure", "ehh, he/she could stand to lose a couple pounds, but not bad" and, "daaaaayyyyummm... did you see that person walking!?"
   
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 Ensis Ferrae wrote:
 timetowaste85 wrote:
I seriously think we're too harsh on most overweight people with the false senses of "beauty" girls are expected to aim for, but 500lb people disgust me. I realize it sounds awful. But the fact that people can allow themselves to get that big...shudder. It's a double standard-I know. "Fat is okay, but super fat is unacceptable". I don't feel that I'm right in this matter at all, I just feel like everything in life, there is a line. Once it's crossed...excuse me, I'm going to be a bit sick.

Again, I think I'm being an absolute prick here. But it doesn't change my opinion.



TBF, there is a huuuuuuge difference between "he/she looks like they just walked out of a concentration camp/broom closet", "he/she could use a bit more meat on the bones", "he/she has a good, full figure", "ehh, he/she could stand to lose a couple pounds, but not bad" and, "daaaaayyyyummm... did you see that person walking!?"

Yeah, its like that "Its all about that Bass" I keep thinking "These women look fine, they are not fat"

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Man, this can of worms again? This video represents my views on the topic quite well.


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 hotsauceman1 wrote:

Yeah, its like that "Its all about that Bass" I keep thinking "These women look fine, they are not fat"


They're not beyond the scope of what I'd consider dateable for their size. They're outside the scope of what I'd consider dateable for want of their choices in music.

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Evidently Australia has no food problem.

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 hotsauceman1 wrote:
 cincydooley wrote:
We've gone down this rabbit hole before, but suffice it to say I think you're justification is nonsense. It's simple.

Know what you put in your body.

It isnt just that. even a simple bran muffin can contain stupid amounts of sugar.
Food companies add addictive gak to the food you eat so they can convince you to eat me. Remember lays "I Bet you cant eat just one"



Unless you're illiterate, you can tell all of this stuff by the FDA required food labels on EVERY piece of food in the US.

 
   
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And im sure most people know what half that stuff means. And dont say "Look it up" because I have tried that, it still is a web of lies and conceit.

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 cincydooley wrote:

Unless you're illiterate, you can tell all of this stuff by the FDA required food labels on EVERY piece of food in the US.


Literacy isn't comprehension, and sometimes the labels are misleading. I mean, I've seen things in bread that have a primary use as chemicals that go into roofing materials that you wouldn't know what they were beyond having the time and access to the internet to google it. That's one of the reasons why I bake my own bread nowadays, actually. Mass produced bread scares the hell out of me.

Further, and I'm cherrypicking, but you're hardpressed to find many people under the age of 40 or so who actually know what oleo is, and I see it in recipes that I cook up still. Just an example.


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Not to mention the fierce misdirection campaign that struggles to convince people that HFCS is as healthy as actual sugar, if not more.

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 daedalus wrote:
 cincydooley wrote:

Unless you're illiterate, you can tell all of this stuff by the FDA required food labels on EVERY piece of food in the US.


Literacy isn't comprehension, and sometimes the labels are misleading. I mean, I've seen things in bread that have a primary use as chemicals that go into roofing materials that you wouldn't know what they were beyond having the time and access to the internet to google it. That's one of the reasons why I bake my own bread nowadays, actually. Mass produced bread scares the hell out of me.

Further, and I'm cherrypicking, but you're hardpressed to find many people under the age of 40 or so who actually know what oleo is, and I see it in recipes that I cook up still. Just an example.


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Not to mention the fierce misdirection campaign that struggles to convince people that HFCS is as healthy as actual sugar, if not more.



I remember one of the ingredients in the vast majority of pre-shredded cheeses was a super complicated chemical name... but when you "translated" it to english, it was literally sawdust ( I just looked at the shredded cheese in my fridge, and I didn't see that ingredient, as I'd recognize it on the label when I saw it... but otherwise had forgotten what it was called)
   
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 hotsauceman1 wrote:
And im sure most people know what half that stuff means. And dont say "Look it up" because I have tried that, it still is a web of lies and conceit.


Here's a way to get around it, make your own food. Cakes - very easy to make , sugar, milk, egg, butter done- you know EXACTLY what is in there
Spice mixes for making sauces - you made it you know what's in it
Bread - now bread truly is a pain in the butt as you have to make it virtually every day - i don't do this.
yoghurt - buy one of those easy make yoghurt kits, get a starter culture started then ditch the packets - insanely easy.

Every slightly ready food can be replicated in a generally easy way and you do not get all the crap food companies put in it.
My point is it isn't the food companies fault, it's peoples fault for not making their own food. I have a 14 hour day and I still make my own food. It's not hard.

One meal I ate for 3 dinners the other day
turn on rice cooker
turn on oven
cut up pumpkin , onion and courgette
turn on hotplate, put 1 tablespoon of butter in saucepan on low heat.
put vegetables in oven - i added chilli and home grown oregano.
cut chicken.
butter has melted add flour and make a sauce - I added some milk and water and garlic, could add stock if you wanted.
turn heat up slightly on hotplate, add chicken stir - and stir frequently, the flour is going to catch and burn if you don't
turn vegetables.
soon as rice is done and chicken is poached dinner is ready.
\It's that simple.
i think my effort was about 15 minutes with a few extra stirrings thrown in whilst watching tv.

This all said , anyone who is morbidly obese in my opinion has a mental problem. I grew up with an anorexic which i also regard as a mental problem and morbidly obese is just the other end of the scale. I regard addictions on a similar level , anyone who continues to self harm themselves has a problem. If anyone thinks morbidly obese people don't self harm, i'll just point out one thing (out of the many issues) knees and mobility.

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 Bullockist wrote:


Here's a way to get around it, make your own food. Cakes - very easy to make , sugar, milk, egg, butter done- you know EXACTLY what is in there.


This. Really this. The problem with any fad diet is that none of them teach you how to make good food decisions for yourself. They present you with lists or prepackaged meals and that's the end of it. It leaves you in a situation where you're basically tied to said diet because they purposefully omit any food education.

General rule of thumb: I'd you can't pronounce it it probably isn't a natural ingredient.

Heres the list of ingredients for Jif creamy peanut butter:



We make our own peanut and almond butter. Here are my ingredients:

Peanuts.
Almonds.
A pinch of salt.

I'm not going to pretend like it's easy, because it isn't. But all the information for you to make good food choices is out there.

 
   
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Yeah, but...

 daedalus wrote:
you're hardpressed to find many people under the age of 40 or so who actually know what oleo is, and I see it in recipes that I cook up still. Just an example.

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It's a city in Brazil, right?

 
   
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Sure. So is Accent.

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 cincydooley wrote:
It's a city in Brazil, right?



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